Free Agency Thread - 2018

[The_Jamal]

His 3 point % was only 33% though. This team does need someone to score, especially from three point land. He has BBIQ, good playmaker, but not a great guy at finishing plays from what I've seen.

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We have people who are going to score though. Bagley/Buddy/Fox/Bogdan are and should eat up a good majority of the USG on the team.If The low 3 ball attempts is certainly a concern, but I don't think we can really be picky with how good Anderson is at pretty much everything else on the floor.

Again, if we could somehow wave a magic wand and know that Anderson would be 35% on 3's on 4 attempts, he'd be worth 13-14 mil a year.

 

[ESP47]

Are we going round that again? I said Buddy/Bogdan hopefully could start and JJ at this point is underrated, and nobody knows what Giles is and how he can be relied upon on this board.

But, taking that away, the difference in talent between Capela/Nurkic (slightly better than Koufos) and Kyle Anderson or Hezonja supersedes positional concern for me

I guess playing guys out of position, relying on one of the worst SFs in the league last year to become a good player and signing redundant players that will take up all our cap space and potentially make our first round picks a waste is your recipe for winning. We will just agree to disagree then.

 

[KingsSelecao]

I guess playing guys out of position, relying on one of the worst SFs in the league last year to become a good player and signing redundant players that will take up all our cap space and potentially make our first round picks a waste is your recipe for winning. We will just agree to disagree then.

JJ Wil be out of the league within a year. 1 of Bogi or Hield will be traded to make room for a SF or another player.

 

[Tetsujin]

i wonder if vlade ever learned how to pick up the phone

A more charitable view would be that he’s letting the other teams with cap room go in a spend all their money to give Vlade more options to work with.

 

[Nokidding]

Nik Stauskas to Portland

 

[KingsSelecao]

Offer Rodney Hood a deal. Cavs only offered a 3.4 mil qualifier. Once his minutes and usage go up, he'll return to playing like he did in Utah.
relatively young still and a better bargain than HEzonja, Anderson, Parker, Ariza, etc

 

[206Fan]

Doug McBuckets deal is bad too. Too many years and too much money for just a shooter.

I disagree. It's not a bad deal at all. 7mpy. Calling him just a shooter slights him a bit because you don't mention the position he plays. He's 6'8 225lbs. SFs who can shoot 40% from 3pter are going to get a lot of money nonetheless.

 

[Kingsfan23]

I guess playing guys out of position, relying on one of the worst SFs in the league last year to become a good player and signing redundant players that will take up all our cap space and potentially make our first round picks a waste is your recipe for winning. We will just agree to disagree then.

Yeah, it beats giving up on a 15th pick after a year who has some natural ability (BBIQ/effort/etc), not seeing if our two best players can co exist before one probably has to be traded after they shared some of our best statistical lineups last year, and signing significantly worse players, or prospects, in lieu of proven quality starters

 

[ESP47]

I disagree. It's not a bad deal at all. 7mpy. Calling him just a shooter slights him a bit because you don't mention the position he plays. He's 6'8 225lbs. SFs who can shoot 40% from 3pter are going to get a lot of money nonetheless.

I don't think McDermott's size matters at all because all he does is shoot threes and provides nothing else. No rebounding, no passing, painfully bad defense and steal rates. His shooting can work on a team that can compensate for all of his other shortcomings which is essentially everything a basketball player does other than shoot, but this team can't afford specialists like that when they can't defend their way out of a paper bag at the moment.

 

[Kingsfan23]

I’m getting ready for bed, but I’m pumped. Tomorrow will be a big day, I can feel it.

 

[The_Jamal]

I disagree. It's not a bad deal at all. 7mpy. Calling him just a shooter slights him a bit because you don't mention the position he plays. He's 6'8 225lbs. SFs who can shoot 40% from 3pter are going to get a lot of money nonetheless.

So? He can't defend a chair. He can't create off the bounce. He doesn't create for others. He's doesn't rebound. He's not a good ball-handler. He's an awesome, awesome, shooter but it doesn't really matter when he's a big negative at everything else on the court. He's a bad NBA player with one great skill. That's not worth 3 years and 7mil a season

 

[Nokidding]

For the love of god Vlade please trade for TJ Warren I don't care if he's not a 3point shooter the man is a walking bucket, with that Ariza deal done. The guy is on a super contract no need to blow any money on Parker.

 

[SacTownKid]

Offer Rodney Hood a deal. Cavs only offered a 3.4 mil qualifier. Once his minutes and usage go up, he'll return to playing like he did in Utah.
relatively young still and a better bargain than HEzonja, Anderson, Parker, Ariza, etc

I know his time in Cleveland wasn't that positive, but he doesn't pass the smell test. He looks to be another average player that looked a little better than average in Utah's system. The Kings already took a gamble on a Utah player who had a much better resume. Pass.

 

[Mass]

So great to see all these teams saving us from our stupidity. There’s no one out there that I would like the Kings to sign this summer. Just use our cap space to absorb bad contracts and get draft picks in the process.
I won’t be disappointed if we sign Hezonja, VanVleet or some other young role player with upside, but the best strategy to me is to acquire draft picks.
No one we can sign will make us a playoff team next year.

 

[rosa u podne]

I do not like that much this free agency for Kings.. lot of unrestricted FA who you need to overpay and players who are not fit for Kings, because of position thay play or character..

Randle and Gordon are playing in position that is crowded, and they need money and minutes.. Parker is more a PF than SF, coming from an injury and a bit of gamble, which would be ok if he is SF.. than LaVine, even if they can play him SF, would required a lot of money, and ball in his hand, plus he is not character fit for this team.. Smart also costs and also would be interesting how his character would fit Kings..

also Kings have veteran presence, so they do not need to sign more players to fill that gap..

so if I am Vlade I would just try to get some cheap contracts and to acquire assets from team that want to cut salary..

I like Nemanja Bjelica, he is stretch 4, but played SF while Jimmy was injured.. guy who is perfect fit on and off court, will do everything for a team, playing or not.. 2 years/10 mil I would offer.. especially if we can trade one big..

also Hezonja, he can explode, good character, also I would offer him similar contact..

other than that I would not try anything, just use cap to absorb bad contracts and get assets.. it would be great if there is posibility to atach for example WCS together with that and get young SF, but chances are not high..

the way I see it, Kings have young core, with future starters and future rotation players, and they will need a big name free agent to raise to another level, most likely SF.. so now that they can not get any, no need to spend money on big contracts.. try next year imposible to lure Klay Thompson or if not Tobias Harris.. if not wait one more year..

franchise is not in need to win now, young guys will grow and an oportunity to get good FA will come.. only stupid thing now for Kings would be to give bad contracts to players who are not sure thing..

I agree with everything yous said, except I am not sure Hezonja is a good character. Bjelica has a QO with more then 4 M on the table, I guess to get him 3 years 6-7 M would make it happen and are reasonable. For the rest, I agree, rather use cap space to aquire assets and/or wait or the next year. Next offseason we will know if Fox has improved, how good are Bagley and Giles, so we should have money and clear understanding how we can improve the roster.

I've just found good opportunity, IMO. Try to absorb one year Wilson Chandler contract for Denver's 1st round pick. We also include one or two 2nd rounders, or FM3 because they are looking for backup PG. Here is the link.

 

[sactowndog]

Tyreke Evans is hanging out there. Could possibly get him on a cheap deal for a year

 

[Tetsujin]

For the love of god Vlade please trade for TJ Warren I don't care if he's not a 3point shooter the man is a walking bucket, with that Ariza deal done. The guy is on a super contract no need to blow any money on Parker.

The Suns are apparently following the mid-2000s Geoff Petrie textbook on roster construction with five quality guys (Booker/Jackson/Ariza/Warren/Bridges) vying for playing time at the 2/3 swing slot (and also no PG to pass the ball to them)

 

[sactowndog]

The Suns are apparently following the mid-2000s Geoff Petrie textbook on roster construction with five quality guys (Booker/Jackson/Ariza/Warren/Bridges) vying for playing time at the 2/3 swing slot (and also no PG to pass the ball to them)

Guessing Bridges to SA as part of a KL trade.

 

[sactowndog]

So both Hezonja and Peyton not signed yet. So not locked up but not lost either. We shall see what today brings.

 

[Sactown ExPat]

I’m on the Capela bandwagon. Perhaps an S&T for Shump/WCS. Shump gives them an expiring Ariza replacement.

But, at least sign Capela to a max offer sheet because worst case scenario is it torpedoes Houston’s cap for the next 4 years.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Nice article
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/why-time-ripe-kings-major-021304099.html

 

[Noble]

Tyreke Evans is hanging out there. Could possibly get him on a cheap deal for a year

I think he finally gets a pretty good deal. He looked good last year.

 

[joemama]

Jason Jones @mr_jasonjones
12 months ago Scott Perry was helping the Kings in free agency and now he might block them from Hezonja

?????
Didnt see this

 

[Hoovtrain]

Jason Jones @mr_jasonjones
12 months ago Scott Perry was helping the Kings in free agency and now he might block them from Hezonja

?????
Didnt see this

Part of me feels this guy should have been the Kings GM
Edit: a lot of me

 

[Joer]

Are we going round that again? I said Buddy/Bogdan hopefully could start and JJ at this point is underrated, and nobody knows what Giles is and how he can be relied upon on this board.

But, taking that away, the difference in talent between Capela/Nurkic (slightly better than Koufos) and Kyle Anderson or Hezonja supersedes positional concern for me

I stopped ready where it says JJ is underrated. Lol. What shad he shown? Smh.

 

[Joer]

A more charitable view would be that he’s letting the other teams with cap room go in a spend all their money to give Vlade more options to work with.

I doubt it. Player don’t want to come here...that’s the bottom line

 

[sactowndog]

VanVleet signed 2 year 18M for Toronto.

 

[Jkbiker]

Bobby Marks @BobbyMarks42
The Ersan Ilyasova $21M contract projects to put Milwaukee at $110M in salary and would hard cap the Bucks at $129.8M. The hard cap is a result of Ilyasova signing for part of the midlevel exception that exceeds $5.3M. The Bucks still have restricted free agent Jabari Parker

well best I can tell with 12 players incl draft pick donte, I come up with 108,757 , so max rfa match of 20 mil could be done
The interesting number is the Luxury tax starts at 123.7 mil so any Jabari match above 15 mil could cost bucks Luxury tax

 

[joemama]

Marc J. Spears@MarcJSpearsESPN
The Bucks will not waive guard Brandon Jennings at the deadline today thus making his $2.2 million contract guaranteed for next season, a source told ESPN's The Undefeated.

 

[joemama]

Eric Nehm @eric_nehm
So, is Jennings the fourth or fifth point guard on the roster? I know Eric Bledsoe and Malcolm Brogdon is ahead of him. Delly too. Is DiVincenzo ahead of him as well?