Zach Lowe dumps on Kings - in other news, water is wet

#1
Zach Lowe on his latest podcast :"Vlade Divac said last night that Marvin Bagley can play some 3. Last night was rock-bottom for Sacremnto fans. Now I feel bad."
 

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#3
Zach Lowe on his latest podcast :"Vlade Divac said last night that Marvin Bagley can play some 3. Last night was rock-bottom for Sacremnto fans. Now I feel bad."
I don't think Zach Lowe has said a single positive thing about the Kings in his entire time as a professional sports writer. Plus "LOL Kangz" is always a good way to sound like you know what's going on in basketball
 
#4
selecting Bagely is the rock bottom? or Vlade saying Bagely can play some 3?
I dont know I didnt listen to the whole podcast.

I don't think Zach Lowe has said a single positive thing about the Kings in his entire time as a professional sports writer. Plus "LOL Kangz" is always a good way to sound like you know what's going on in basketball
Kings also havent give too many reasons to say something positive about them
 
#5
I don't think Zach Lowe has said a single positive thing about the Kings in his entire time as a professional sports writer. Plus "LOL Kangz" is always a good way to sound like you know what's going on in basketball
They didn't even want to mention the whole sentence while Vlade only bring it up to say Bagley is versatile, not necessarily saying they would play him at 3. That's disgusting.
 
#6
I don't think Zach Lowe has said a single positive thing about the Kings in his entire time as a professional sports writer. Plus "LOL Kangz" is always a good way to sound like you know what's going on in basketball
Zach Lowe is considered to be one of the very best basketball writers around...

I know for example he was the first national writer all over the Rudy Gobert story.
 
#8
I don't think Zach Lowe has said a single positive thing about the Kings in his entire time as a professional sports writer. Plus "LOL Kangz" is always a good way to sound like you know what's going on in basketball
He’s got something personal against Vlade. Lowe never stops talking about how much time he spends in Croatia (his wife is from Croatia) and how he speaks Serbian and Croatian, and yet he has never even attempted to interview the first Serbian born front office. It’s very curious.

I wanted Luka, but it’s not a LOL KANGZ moment. Two other teams passed on Luka, and every other team in the top ten could have traded up for him and didn’t...all the Hawks got was a 2019 top-5 protected, and next year’s draft is trash. TTP was fun, but Bagley is a great prospect too. Not rock bottom by any means. It may still cost Vlade his job, down the road, but I’m not going to be mad about having Bagley on the team.
 
#9
On Lowe's pod, the rock bottom was taking Bagley, saying they had a super team, and that Bagley could play the 3. They also went over the terrible Philly trade and the terrible draft history.

Basically that Kings fans want everyone fired.
I disagree with the Bagley thing being rock bottom. He was top 3 in every draft board and mock draft in the country. Now because the kings took him all of a sudden he was a reach at 2 and we messed up. Me thinks the media would've done this no matter who we took.

I won't lie though. Vlade saying Bagley can play the 3 and that we are a super team really made me cringe.
 
#10
Lowe has had it out for the Kings for years. It's a shame because a lot of his work actually is good. Unfortunately he combines that with taking the easy clicks and far too often uses the whole "Kangz" thing, even when unnecessary.

I wanted Doncic. But Bagley is abslutely not a reach. Bagley had a strong claim for number 2 despite the narrative.

Rock bottom for kings fans was the abysmal, disgraceful Cousins trade. Nobody will convince me otherwise. The draft was not even in the same atmosphere as that. No need to pile on when we haven't done anything crazy.

If he's referring only to Vlades comments post-draft, then I can't disagree too much. I stayed out of that whole debate, but Vlades comments were silly, at best. But hardly worth crying over.
 
#11
Lowe has had it out for the Kings for years. It's a shame because a lot of his work actually is good. Unfortunately he combines that with taking the easy clicks and far too often uses the whole "Kangz" thing, even when unnecessary.

I wanted Doncic. But Bagley is abslutely not a reach. Bagley had a strong claim for number 2 despite the narrative.

Rock bottom for kings fans was the abysmal, disgraceful Cousins trade. Nobody will convince me otherwise. The draft was not even in the same atmosphere as that. No need to pile on when we haven't done anything crazy.

If he's referring only to Vlades comments post-draft, then I can't disagree too much. I stayed out of that whole debate, but Vlades comments were silly, at best. But hardly worth crying over.
The Kings have been abysmal and abysmally run for over a decade. Do you honestly expect national media types to have any praise for this franchise? This franchise is deserving of all the negative press it gets until they put out a winning product.
 
#12
I disagree with the Bagley thing being rock bottom. He was top 3 in every draft board and mock draft in the country. Now because the kings took him all of a sudden he was a reach at 2 and we messed up. Me thinks the media would've done this no matter who we took.

I won't lie though. Vlade saying Bagley can play the 3 and that we are a super team really made me cringe.
All Bagley issues are taking him over Doncic. I don't think many see Bagley as bad. Many think he will be productive. The majority feel Doncic is an impact player more than Bagley is.

The ohdeargodweredoomed is the "too many ball handlers" "super team" stuff.
 
#13
I don't know why a Kings fan would listen to Lowe. He's had an axe to grind for a while. I remember at one point, he said he was going to stop talking about Sacramento all together. The rock bottom talk is just his hot take like so many others.
 
#14
The Kings have been abysmal and abysmally run for over a decade. Do you honestly expect national media types to have any praise for this franchise? This franchise is deserving of all the negative press it gets until they put out a winning product.
Agreed in principle. We have largely deserved ridicule the last decade, and I was front of line doing it. However, I don't agree with criticising without reason. Agree or disagree?
 

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#20
We interrupt this bash session for a brief announcement:

Grant later clarified this apparent misstatement with Vlade, since some of you either missed it or are choosing to ignore it. IIRC (because I'm not gonna waste time going back through all the posts of the last couple of days and verify), Vlade means Bagley can defend against 3s in some instances.

Now back to your front office/Vlade bashing.
 
#21
We interrupt this bash session for a brief announcement:

Grant later clarified this apparent misstatement with Vlade, since some of you either missed it or are choosing to ignore it. IIRC (because I'm not gonna waste time going back through all the posts of the last couple of days and verify), Vlade means Bagley can defend against 3s in some instances.

Now back to your front office/Vlade bashing.
Funny that's kinda what I thought he meant in the first place.
 
#23
I did not listen to any of my normal nba podcasts after the draft. It was clear leading up to the draft that any pick other than Doncic was going to be mocked mercilessly — and had they picked Luka the narrative was going to be “how long do we let Luka play there before the KANGZ destroy his career”. Look, it’s the same thing as the Bilas twitter fight....we all know things are much better the last couple years (regardless of whether you agree with every move), but the national media has the narrative that is absolutely not going to change until they win. Vlade deserves some flack, but to kill him over the “super team” comment is just silly. He was obviously being playful.

It’s annoying as hell, but how much are we talking glowingly about the Magic and the Hornets, etc. around here. To us they are jokes also. It’s put up or shut up time. Then we tell the national media to suck it when we’ve (hopefully) turned a corner in a couple years.
 

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#25
Zach Lowe has no business talking basketball. I truly wish Bricklayer were here to remind us of how many times the little weasel has been proven to be wrong, has talked out of his arse, etc. I don't care if the national media bashes us - we've endured for so long now I'd probably actually miss it if they stopped. What I do care about, however, is integrity in sports and Zach Lowe has NONE. I could name at least a dozen members of this forum right off the top of my head who could put him to shame without blinking an eye.
 
#26
Zach Lowe has no business talking basketball. I truly wish Bricklayer were here to remind us of how many times the little weasel has been proven to be wrong, has talked out of his arse, etc. I don't care if the national media bashes us - we've endured for so long now I'd probably actually miss it if they stopped. What I do care about, however, is integrity in sports and Zach Lowe has NONE. I could name at least a dozen members of this forum right off the top of my head who could put him to shame without blinking an eye.
I like his writing and feel like he generally knows the NBA better than other commentators (....eh hmmm...Hamm) and has some interesting things to say. I just think he’s lazy when it comes to the Kings and the bottom half of the league. I can’t really fault him there, however, it’s the pot shots that in my opinion are unnecessary and leave a real bad taste.
 

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#27
I like his writing and feel like he generally knows the NBA better than other commentators (....eh hmmm...Hamm) and has some interesting things to say. I just think he’s lazy when it comes to the Kings and the bottom half of the league. I can’t really fault him there, however, it’s the pot shots that in my opinion are unnecessary and leave a real bad taste.
In my mind, that speaks to his integrity. If he's going to put something out there, you'd think he'd have enough pride in himself and his audience to make sure it was more than him just spouting regurgitated drivel.
 
#28
We interrupt this bash session for a brief announcement:

Grant later clarified this apparent misstatement with Vlade, since some of you either missed it or are choosing to ignore it. IIRC (because I'm not gonna waste time going back through all the posts of the last couple of days and verify), Vlade means Bagley can defend against 3s in some instances.

Now back to your front office/Vlade bashing.
Slightly off-topic, but this kind of reminds me of Jose Mourinho, one of the more famous soccer managers in the world. Often employ the same tactics...
Oh, what tactics you ask? The same "I am a foreigner and English is not my first language so if I sounded like I am insulting you, it's because of my language" tactics.

But hey! English isn't my first language, and maybe he really was hearing the question wrong twice and just think that Bagley can defend 3, not play the 3. :D