Free Agency Thread - 2018

[Nokidding]

I think my new guy is Kyle Anderson. Fits with the roster like a glove now, adds tremendous size and length to the SF and Small-ball PF, he's a flat out awesome defender that doesn't get the recognition it deserves (like one of the better ones in the NBA for years now), he's a good playmaker on the wing, he's an excellent rebounder for a wing and is a good enough floor spacer to where you have to respect it. And he's just turning 25 so he fits the timeline. Pretty much the only thing Anderson doesn't do well is score and we should hopefully have plenty of those. I think he'd absolutely thrive with our core.

The Usage thing is kind of weird for me with him though. I don't know if he just never got a chance to break the offensive hierarchy with the Spurs for some reason, but I think there's a bunch of unused offensive talent that we can still unlock. Spurs aren't exactly in a great situation right now with the Kawhi and don't think they'd match a 12mil-13mil/season offer for him.

The high IQ between him and Bogie would really make life way easier for Bagley I have been on the Anderson train for a while, plus I don't trust Mason as a back up pg and rather Kyle or Bogie handle it. He's also excellent at making entry passes into the post.

side note: Are we bringing back Jakarr as the energy guy?

 

[sactowndog]

The high IQ between him and Bogie would really make life way easier for Bagley I have been on the Anderson train for a while, plus I don't trust Mason as a back up pg and rather Kyle or Bogie handle it. He's also excellent at making entry passes into the post.

side note: Are we bringing back Jakarr as the energy guy?

Anderson would be a great get but I think he would require a massive overpay as a restricted free agent ....

Also there is this:

Anderson brings defensive value, sure, but the points-per-game output does not resemble a starting small forward. His 7.9 points were the third-lowest mark of anyone to start at least 60 games in 2017-18, with Aron Baynes (6.0) and OG Anunoby (5.9) as the only players with lower marks.

 

[midtowner]

He's asking for like 50-60 million at his age no thanks

Asking is one thing. Kings could make a competive offer for him. Name a big SF that is a better realistic target. He’s a two-player that competes.

 

[jiimbob]

I didn't realize Anderson played some PG at UCLA until now. At 6"9" 230 lbs and a good rep for defense he does sound like a good FA target.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I didn't realize Anderson played some PG at UCLA until now. At 6"9" 230 lbs and a good rep for defense he does sound like a good FA target.

"Some"? He was literally the full-time PG his sophomore year.

 

[Ozymandias]

Dante Exum would be nice but he's not gonna be cheap in that game they beat the rockets at home in the playoffs He defended Harden on like 20 something possessions and did extremely well...

 

[alden.viado]

Stick with the Duke theme and get Hood at the SF.
Had a bad run with the Cavs but still a good spot up shooter.

Joerger raved about him back then and a better player/fit than super Mario.

We were there Sacramento Wildcats now we're the Duke Kings!

 

[Ozymandias]

 

[Ozymandias]

Stick with the Duke theme and get Hood at the SF.
Had a bad run with the Cavs but still a good spot up shooter.

Joerger raved about him back then and a better player/fit than super Mario.

We were there Sacramento Wildcats now we're the Duke Kings!

I'm all for the Hood idea. It's not a perfect fit but it's a worthy gamble.


This team could feature 3 Dookies and 4 Wildcats if Gabriel makes the squad . Giles and Bagley should've went to UK anyways

 

[Mass]

I agree we should go after Hood and Hezonja ad SF. Young players with potential.

As a backup PG I would target Napier. If they decline their player option, also Joseph and Teodosic.
I would also like to make an offer for Exum. He’s a RFA, but there could be potential here.

 

[ParniValjak]

Parker is more of a PF that can play some SF. The obvious concern here is injury history and the fit defensively. I doubt we make a strong push to sign him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we look to trade for Otto Porter Jr. if Washington is open to moving him. Not convinced that they are but someone lie Porter who is great size for position, a very good defender and an excellent shooter. Can play some PF in smaller line ups.

There is no doubt that coach Joerger is a big Rodney Hood fan. Problem is that he is a terrible rebounder and despite being 6’8” he is more of a SG than a SF! Could be an option but attitude in terma of playing hard every position is a big question mark here. I think we kick the tyres here but doubt we go too far.

Mario Hezonja is the one most likely out of this bunch. He is a former lottery pick (#6 IIRC), a good athlete, very good shooter and someone who can play SF and PF. He is not going to cost a fortune but he is probably someone worth a shot. Still has some pretty good upside, right age bracket, helps spread the floor for the bigs and plays the position of need. Could be a very good low risk, high upside type of signing. Is he the answer? Probably not but he might be worth a shot. Back in the development program and let Mario grow and develop with the rest of the team.

I suspect we still want to keep the cap flexibility for next summer so Mario might make some sense.

 

[Gguod]

Hood is 6'8 but is very light and only has 6'8 wingspan and isnt a good defender. Isnt a good ball handler and doesnt generate effective offense for himself since he cant get to the foul line and doesnt finnish well at the rim. Plays similarly to Buddy except Buddy is far better shooter.

I'd rather have one player on the wing that can play defense. I wacthed a lot of Hood last year. On paper he was everything the Cavs needed but still fell from their rotation and for a good reason. Wouldnt feel comfortable giving him starter money and locking up multiple years of cap space for him. Its a hard pass unless its VERY team friendly contract but hard to see that happening

 

[Ozymandias]

The Kings are well positioned to poach Dante Exum from Utah IMO. I'd do it and pay something like 9 or 10MM per year, he'd be a considerable upgrade from Mason. Also he's young and athletic and had some injury troubles, there's still plenty of upside.

He can guard Sg's and SF's too, could be a valuable piece. Look no further than his defense on James HArden in that playoff win with no Rubio in Houston, he was by far Utah's best defensive option on Harden....

 

[Sac.Kings]

My choices would be Smart, Gordon, Barton or McDermott.

Smart would be expensive but he's exactly the type of player we have been getting and helps with defense, he's just a bull. Gordon is a pipe dream really but I do like him and he's still pretty young. Barton is a good solid player and can hit the 3, probably my favorite of the group. McDermott is still young and is the best shooter, but limited with defense.

I would love to have Smart on the team. He's the type of guy you hate playing against. In your face defense and not afraid of anything. He would be a great leader on this young team. I know he doesn't fill the biggest need on the team, but we are looking like defense will be a problem so he would certainly be a welcome addition. I'd love to have Gordon but probably not going to happen. Barton could be attainable and is a solid player and shooter.

 

[Hoovtrain]

Parker is more of a PF that can play some SF. The obvious concern here is injury history and the fit defensively. I doubt we make a strong push to sign him.

I wouldn’t be surprised if we look to trade for Otto Porter Jr. if Washington is open to moving him. Not convinced that they are but someone lie Porter who is great size for position, a very good defender and an excellent shooter. Can play some PF in smaller line ups.

There is no doubt that coach Joerger is a big Rodney Hood fan. Problem is that he is a terrible rebounder and despite being 6’8” he is more of a SG than a SF! Could be an option but attitude in terma of playing hard every position is a big question mark here. I think we kick the tyres here but doubt we go too far.

Mario Hezonja is the one most likely out of this bunch. He is a former lottery pick (#6 IIRC), a good athlete, very good shooter and someone who can play SF and PF. He is not going to cost a fortune but he is probably someone worth a shot. Still has some pretty good upside, right age bracket, helps spread the floor for the bigs and plays the position of need. Could be a very good low risk, high upside type of signing. Is he the answer? Probably not but he might be worth a shot. Back in the development program and let Mario grow and develop with the rest of the team.

I suspect we still want to keep the cap flexibility for next summer so Mario might make some sense.

Porter is my #1 target.

 

[The_Jamal]

Anderson would be a great get but I think he would require a massive overpay as a restricted free agent ....

Also there is this:

Anderson brings defensive value, sure, but the points-per-game output does not resemble a starting small forward. His 7.9 points were the third-lowest mark of anyone to start at least 60 games in 2017-18, with Aron Baynes (6.0) and OG Anunoby (5.9) as the only players with lower marks.

I don't mind overpaying a really good player that addresses the biggest weakness on the team (wing defense). And the usage thing confuses me too, he's a really good passer (14.7% AST rate), he's was efficient with a 58% TS last year, he was effective at finishing at the rim with a 69.8 FG% on 179 attempts, and he got to the Free Throw Line at a good clip at .333. Everything points to him needing to be a more involved offensive player, but he just wasn't last year. Maybe getting him away from the iron fist of Pop will open his game up? I see no reason he couldn't be similarly effective at 18-20% USG.

This is the summer we can afford an overpay on a guy like Anderson, Smart, Gordon, Parker, etc. If we're serious about making a big win increase next year (8-10 wins), then we have to be aggressive on bringing a good young player who can grow with this core.

 

[The_Jamal]

The Kings are well positioned to poach Dante Exum from Utah IMO. I'd do it and pay something like 9 or 10MM per year, he'd be a considerable upgrade from Mason. Also he's young and athletic and had some injury troubles, there's still plenty of upside.

He can guard Sg's and SF's too, could be a valuable piece. Look no further than his defense on James HArden in that playoff win with no Rubio in Houston, he was by far Utah's best defensive option on Harden....

Huge fan of Exum too. Him, Smart, and Anderson are my 3 main wing targets for us. Positional versatility, great defenders and bring something different to the team we don't already have.

Don't see why the Jazz would let him walk though. They have a pretty clean cap sheet and have 25 mil with Burks and Rubio coming off the books next year. Gobert is already locked up and Mitchell has another 3 years of being an absolute bargain. So unless we went like... $15mil for him, I think they just match anything.

 

[Gguod]

To me biggest question mark with Andersson is his shooting. Last year 33% on three but only 0.8 attempts per game. If we already have Fox, Giles and Bagley in the lineup, I would like the starting sf to be a good shooter, otherwise the spacing is just too bad

 

[sactowndog]

I don't mind overpaying a really good player that addresses the biggest weakness on the team (wing defense). And the usage thing confuses me too, he's a really good passer (14.7% AST rate), he's was efficient with a 58% TS last year, he was effective at finishing at the rim with a 69.8 FG% on 179 attempts, and he got to the Free Throw Line at a good clip at .333. Everything points to him needing to be a more involved offensive player, but he just wasn't last year. Maybe getting him away from the iron fist of Pop will open his game up? I see no reason he couldn't be similarly effective at 18-20% USG.

This is the summer we can afford an overpay on a guy like Anderson, Smart, Gordon, Parker, etc. If we're serious about making a big win increase next year (8-10 wins), then we have to be aggressive on bringing a good young player who can grow with this core.

I agree we may have to overpay but I would rather do so next summer. At that point we will have a better idea what we have and who we need to supplement.

 

[sactowndog]

Porter is my #1 target.

If Porter could be gotten without loosing the core guys he would be a slam dunk. But I think Washington is more likely to trade Beal than Porter.

 

[sactowndog]

Huge fan of Exum too. Him, Smart, and Anderson are my 3 main wing targets for us. Positional versatility, great defenders and bring something different to the team we don't already have.

Don't see why the Jazz would let him walk though. They have a pretty clean cap sheet and have 25 mil with Burks and Rubio coming off the books next year. Gobert is already locked up and Mitchell has another 3 years of being an absolute bargain. So unless we went like... $15mil for him, I think they just match anything.

Yep. It’s really hard to get decent value for restricted free agents unless they are like Washington and really cap constrained. Over paying on players who aren’t really max players causes you to end up like Portland and Miami. We can’t pay 15-20M for role players.

 

[NYKingsfan]

Ioe Harris is a free agent I saw quite bit of him here in NY I believe he would qualify as a 3 and wing . While I believe Hezonja is likely the target of our front office, Harris may be worthy of consideration 41.9 from 3 Help space the floor

 

[Telemachus]

Ioe Harris is a free agent I saw quite bit of him here in NY I believe he would qualify as a 3 and wing . While I believe Hezonja is likely the target of our front office, Harris may be worthy of consideration 41.9 from 3 Help space the floor

Harris is definitely one of the FAs I like. Good 3 & D player. Shouldn't be too costly either.

 

[swisshh]

Joe Harris would be good for the Kings. Quick release, attacks on closeouts and improves on defense. Sort of like Casspi without the helter skelter stuff.

 

[Double-K]

Clippers are apparently waiving Teodosic! We should def look at signing him..

Since we didn't draft Doncic, I believe a lesser player of a similar style wouldn't attract the FO.

 

[The_Jamal]

I agree we may have to overpay but I would rather do so next summer. At that point we will have a better idea what we have and who we need to supplement.

I disagree there because waiting another summer gets us closer to having to pay Bogdan-buddy-fox-giles-JJ. I think that's the real edge in going and getting a good player this summer; we're so far removed from paying the core that a bad contract now doesn't hurt us down the line

 

[OptimusRhyme]

Since we didn't draft Doncic, I believe a lesser player of a similar style wouldn't attract the FO.

I'm sure they wanted Doncic.. they just wanted bagley more.. Teodosic is the type of vet that can unify the team and he could teach fox and mason a thing or two about passing the rock.

I think he would honestly consider the Kings because Bogis/vlade/peja are here.

If we go into next season without a vet backup PG things could get messy.

 

[VF21]

The high IQ between him and Bogie would really make life way easier for Bagley I have been on the Anderson train for a while, plus I don't trust Mason as a back up pg and rather Kyle or Bogie handle it. He's also excellent at making entry passes into the post.

side note: Are we bringing back Jakarr as the energy guy?

He was on a one-year two-way contract for 2017-18. I'm guessing he'll be signed again with the Reno Bighorns (new name) Stockton Kings.

 

[Telemachus]

He was on a one-year two-way contract for 2017-18. I'm guessing he'll be signed again with the Reno Bighorns (new name) Stockton Kings.

I think JaKarr played himself onto somebody's NBA roster next season.

 

[Kingz19]

I like the idea of Hezonja.

Shouldn’t be a fortune to get. He played very well to close out last season. He can play SF for us and in small ball lineups can fill the elusive stretch 4 need. There is still a lot of upside there. He has playmaking ability too. He could be a steal.

Vogel was lukewarm on him as soon as he got in Orlando. He had an interview where it was basically if he can’t use Hezonja as a power forward then he really isn’t interested. Not his type of SF but could mean Hezonja was misused. Maybe he’d be a better fit here.

Dante Exum as mentioned is another guy who I think could soon make a huge leap.

Not feeling Kyle Anderson