Kings, Mavericks Interested In Trading Down
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John Wall is bigger which helped him in terms of defense and attacking the basket and he's a better playmaker. But yes, Fox could turn into John Wall-lite. That's not a bad outcome. Fox's rookie stats were also just a tick below Westbrook's. I think so much depends on improvements to his shot and increases in strength.
But I also think part of it is situational. I don't think Joerger's offense plays to Fox's strengths. I sure hope that changes next year but my fear is that he's not being put in the best position to succeed.
But I also think part of it is situational. I don't think Joerger's offense plays to Fox's strengths. I sure hope that changes next year but my fear is that he's not being put in the best position to succeed.
Yeah, I can see why you feel that way. I just feel like when he came in, everyone said do not expect him to be close to a finished product, he’s only 19, it’s going to take a while. I think he showed me a bit more than I was expecting. I can see the allure of a Doncic/MJP pairing or a MJP/JJJ pairing, but I feel it might be short sighted of us to unload him this early.
I'm pretty sure you can make a trade contingent on the player you want is there when the 2nd team picks. If the player that team A wants is no longer there when team B picks, then Team A can nix any trade, but they would need to keep the player they originally picked. I would hope Vlade would be smart enough to put that contingency into any trade down scenario.
Also, I freaking can't wait for draft night to be over. Seriously, I can see Adam Silver announce that the Kings pick Doncic #2 (and Kings fans rejoice!!!) and like 1 hour later..... Adam Silver announces..... the Kings trade the rights to #2 Doncic for the Mavs #5 pick and MJP and Dirk Nowitski!
Also, I freaking can't wait for draft night to be over. Seriously, I can see Adam Silver announce that the Kings pick Doncic #2 (and Kings fans rejoice!!!) and like 1 hour later..... Adam Silver announces..... the Kings trade the rights to #2 Doncic for the Mavs #5 pick and MJP and Dirk Nowitski!
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This article says that BOTH teams are open to moving down in the draft, not a deal between the teams:
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/report-kings-mavericks-open-moving-draft/
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/report-kings-mavericks-open-moving-draft/
I trust literally nothing I read about trades, picks and FA's unless there is a named legit source but I will say this that if a team has access to either very seriously accurate scouting or a crystal ball, and the Kings org clearly has neither, then this could be an excellent draft to trade down. History tealls us that there are likely a few guys outside the top 3 that will turn out to be really great players and a couple disapointments in the top 5... the trick always is figuring out which is which. With the number two pick the Kings should not even thing of getting cute. You drew a great hand, play it straight up. But If I am Dallas and I am solid on two or three guys I think will be on board farther down, then I would take the risk to amass more young prospects and try to pull a rabit out of the hat.
This is honestly what Vlade did the last two drafts with mixed results. Last year he flipped #10 Collins for Giels and JJ (jury still out) and in 2016 when he flipped #8 Chriss for Boggie, Skal and Pappa G (Looks like a win). To be clear I am NOT saying the Kings should pull this trick again, just the opposite. It's time to use that #2 for as a sure a deal as you ever get tin the draft. But If I am Dallas and I am starting from gound zero I want losts of prospects, I take risks and search for hidden gems this year.
This is honestly what Vlade did the last two drafts with mixed results. Last year he flipped #10 Collins for Giels and JJ (jury still out) and in 2016 when he flipped #8 Chriss for Boggie, Skal and Pappa G (Looks like a win). To be clear I am NOT saying the Kings should pull this trick again, just the opposite. It's time to use that #2 for as a sure a deal as you ever get tin the draft. But If I am Dallas and I am starting from gound zero I want losts of prospects, I take risks and search for hidden gems this year.
I don't think the FO will trade Fox. However, just from guessing, here's the scenarios:
1. Kings draft Doncic at #2, absolutely love him and also see him more of a LEGITIMATE pg. He'll take over the PG duties which makes Fox expendable. Kings would use #6 on Mikal Bridges who would theoretically guard PGs allowing Doncic to stick on SFs. Mikal would be a great fit with Doncic, Bogdan, and Buddy.
2. Kings love Young and see him as a franchise player. We draft him at #6, and use the #2 pick on an elite big man in Ayton, Bagley, or Jackson Jr.
Young is a very very very talented PG. He was an elite scorer in college, and many hope to see him do that in the NBA.
1. Kings draft Doncic at #2, absolutely love him and also see him more of a LEGITIMATE pg. He'll take over the PG duties which makes Fox expendable. Kings would use #6 on Mikal Bridges who would theoretically guard PGs allowing Doncic to stick on SFs. Mikal would be a great fit with Doncic, Bogdan, and Buddy.
2. Kings love Young and see him as a franchise player. We draft him at #6, and use the #2 pick on an elite big man in Ayton, Bagley, or Jackson Jr.
Young is a very very very talented PG. He was an elite scorer in college, and many hope to see him do that in the NBA.
I just don't see many trade down scenarios that would make sense for the Kings. There is no way in a theoretically great draft class that we would trade out of the top five.
That leaves only Memphis as a potential trade partner. If Ayton goes 1, Memphis trades up for Doncic, Bagley at 3 that would leave the Kings to choose between Porter and Bamba at 4 and a 2019 first rounder that would likely be top ten albeit in a weak class. A Doncic, Gasol, Conley trio isn't really much to build on considering Gasol's age and status. Don't think that makes sense for them and it only makes sense for the kings if we don't want Doncic or Bagley. Ugh and we were all rejoicing a couple weeks back.
That leaves only Memphis as a potential trade partner. If Ayton goes 1, Memphis trades up for Doncic, Bagley at 3 that would leave the Kings to choose between Porter and Bamba at 4 and a 2019 first rounder that would likely be top ten albeit in a weak class. A Doncic, Gasol, Conley trio isn't really much to build on considering Gasol's age and status. Don't think that makes sense for them and it only makes sense for the kings if we don't want Doncic or Bagley. Ugh and we were all rejoicing a couple weeks back.
Yeah. That's kind of what I was thinking. However, the smarter thing to do if the Kings truly wanted to trade Fox, would be to trade him for a proven young veteran at SF or PG and a future pick. Not a good idea to keep rolling the dice on 19 y.o. players when you're trying to build something. Not unless your following the Philly model. No guarantee that our #2 or a potential #6 will pan out. Disaster if they both flop.