Free Agency Open Thread (NBA and Kings!)
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There's always risk.
If JJ does well, it's a good contract and Riley looks like a genius, and their coach also for getting out of him what no one else has.
If JJ does is average or regresses, then it's a bad contract and Riley looks like an idiot.
Like you I think it's risky, but Miami have faith in him and Waiters to give them 4 year deals. It's going to be interesting to see which Miami turns up: 11-30 or 30-11.
If JJ does well, it's a good contract and Riley looks like a genius, and their coach also for getting out of him what no one else has.
If JJ does is average or regresses, then it's a bad contract and Riley looks like an idiot.
Like you I think it's risky, but Miami have faith in him and Waiters to give them 4 year deals. It's going to be interesting to see which Miami turns up: 11-30 or 30-11.
ESPN: @Toronto Raptors trade @DeMarreCarrol1 and its 2018 1st AND 2nd round picks to @Brooklyn Nets for #JustinHamilton. @ESPNNBA@ESPNDeportes
Damn I don't mind Vince carter, but taking on carroll + a 1st AND 2nd rounder for a salary dump would have been capspace used wisely.
Damn I don't mind Vince carter, but taking on carroll + a 1st AND 2nd rounder for a salary dump would have been capspace used wisely.
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Picks for cap space is a nice trade off, however I really like the way our front office moves have "felt" since Scott Perry was added. I trust he looked into all possibilities and decided to go the route we did.
Just off the top of my head, a deal like the one posted from Toronto, would mean adding 4 more players next season. Unless we were able to unload some of them for something we wanted.
Still, it was a move I had been looking for. But then I also didn't expect the vets we signed. I'm going to defer to our front office and assume they have their reasons.
Just off the top of my head, a deal like the one posted from Toronto, would mean adding 4 more players next season. Unless we were able to unload some of them for something we wanted.
Still, it was a move I had been looking for. But then I also didn't expect the vets we signed. I'm going to defer to our front office and assume they have their reasons.
That's a good deal for the Nets even if that first round pick will be outside the lottery. Plus if Carroll can return to the level of play he was at in Atlanta then he could have been a very useful stopgap starting SF for us.
It seems that the Nets are trying to improve and win games. I still feel they'll be near the bottom of the east, but I think they are going to make an effort to try and be a lot better this season since they've got no incentive to tank and help the Celtics out any more than they already have.
It seems that the Nets are trying to improve and win games. I still feel they'll be near the bottom of the east, but I think they are going to make an effort to try and be a lot better this season since they've got no incentive to tank and help the Celtics out any more than they already have.
This trade puts a pretty damn big dent into Vlade's off-season as there's a 0% chance that the Raptors didn't call us about taking on Carroll and we turned it down. They didn't all of a sudden decide in the last 2 days, when we've been out of cap space, that they wanted to dump him. I liked the ZBO and Carter signings initially and think they'll have value in helping us grow, but knowing this deal was out there makes the signings significantly worse. And the crazy thing is, we still would have had 5 ish mil to throw at Carter.
Carroll can still actually play too and he'll be another year removed from his injuries. He's an outstanding teammate and a guy who had to scratch and claw for everything he's become in the NBA. He'd have been a great model for all our young wings on how to play D. And he plays a position we needed some help at.
Frustrating to say the least. The Nets put on a clinic on how to use their cap space. For 30 mil basically, they got Russell, a first and a 2nd round pick. They aren't going to be good for a long time, but that's exactly the model bad teams should follow and spend their money.
Carroll can still actually play too and he'll be another year removed from his injuries. He's an outstanding teammate and a guy who had to scratch and claw for everything he's become in the NBA. He'd have been a great model for all our young wings on how to play D. And he plays a position we needed some help at.
Frustrating to say the least. The Nets put on a clinic on how to use their cap space. For 30 mil basically, they got Russell, a first and a 2nd round pick. They aren't going to be good for a long time, but that's exactly the model bad teams should follow and spend their money.
30M obligation for 2018 1st round pick that projects #25 to #30 and 2nd rounder between #55 to #60?? You are basically buying late first rounder and late second rounder and getting a guy who can't play. Carroll hurt his leg and has not been the same player since Atlanta. He is deadweight. This is an exorbitant price to pay for draft picks unlikely to have more talent than the talent you acquired over the last two drafts. For the Nets it makes more sense for a team deprived of young talent.
I would want a projected lottery pick for 30M.
I would want a projected lottery pick for 30M.
