Kings trade JT, Nik and Landry to Sixers (renamed)

Kings don't have the cap space to give Matthews the kind of money he wants. Outside of Stauskas, I am not sure what you can offer Portland in a S&T. Not sure Matthews wants to come here as well.
 
Kings don't have the cap space to give Matthews the kind of money he wants. Outside of Stauskas, I am not sure what you can offer Portland in a S&T. Not sure Matthews wants to come here as well.
Keep hearing Matthews wants $15M. Roster experts, doesn't that pretty much put him out of reach?
 

rainmaker

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Rajon Rondo is as good as signed. He will be formally introduced soon, the only reason he hasn't made the trip for a face to face visit with Vlade is because he's currently traveling.
Who is this guy who keeps posting as if he's some insider and fails to produce any links/sources when asked?
 

funkykingston

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Keep hearing Matthews wants $15M. Roster experts, doesn't that pretty much put him out of reach?
Yep. Even if we stretched Landry we couldn't open up that much room.

That said, just because Matthews wants a deal starting at $15 million doesn't mean he'll get it. That's a pretty rich contract for a 3rd/4th option coming off a major injury.
 
Yep. Even if we stretched Landry we couldn't open up that much room.

That said, just because Matthews wants a deal starting at $15 million doesn't mean he'll get it. That's a pretty rich contract for a 3rd/4th option coming off a major injury.
Sign and trade Nik.
The contracts being dished out I wouldn't be worried. Matthews at 80% is still a very nice player he would still be leathal from 3 and post up SG while being able to play SF. If the Achilles does effect him it would be defense if he went from elite defender to average id still be find with him.
 

funkykingston

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I don't see why Brook Lopez can get $20 million easily while teams are hesitant to give Wes Matthews $15 mill?
A few reasons. One is that the Nets are resigning their own free agent and can exceed the cap to do so. Another is that Brooklyn is in a similar situation as Denver with Faried a few years back. Don't really want to overpay but can't afford to lose talent for nothing. It's a bad deal and a mistake IMO but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Portland can exceed the cap for Matthews but every other team would have to have the cap room or do a sign-and-trade to give him a $15M contract. The Lakers have that kind of room. So does Philly. Beyond that I'm not sure.
 

Capt. Factorial

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Keep hearing Matthews wants $15M. Roster experts, doesn't that pretty much put him out of reach?
Never say never, but we'd have to do some pretty unpalatable things to get there. Maybe a S&T sending Ben and Ray would do it capwise, but maybe not, it would all depend on the final numbers which are a bit fuzzy. S&T with Ben and Landry would do it, but why would Portland take on Landry's contract? S&T with Ben while stretching Landry's contract would seem to make enough space. Any way you look at it, getting Matthews would leave us with no real money to spend and we might be pretty darn thin on top of that. That's a lot to ask when the player in question is coming off an Achilles tear, IMO.
 
A few reasons. One is that the Nets are resigning their own free agent and can exceed the cap to do so. Another is that Brooklyn is in a similar situation as Denver with Faried a few years back. Don't really want to overpay but can't afford to lose talent for nothing. It's a bad deal and a mistake IMO but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Portland can exceed the cap for Matthews but every other team would have to have the cap room or do a sign-and-trade to give him a $15M contract. The Lakers have that kind of room. So does Philly. Beyond that I'm not sure.
Also Mavs, who are believed to be the leaders in Matthews' sweepstakes. Parsons, DAJ and Matthews were all hanging out together last week.


as far as nbawowy.com database goes
1/1/12 - 12/19/14
Celtics w/Rondo - 6108 poss, 102.7 PPP for - 106.7 PPP against; Jared Sullinger - .488TS%
Celtics w/o Rondo - 11861 poss, 104.0 PPP for - 105.5 PPP against; Jared Sullinger - .519TS%
(Jared Sullinger was the only guy on their roster during this time, that resembles Cousins with the amount of offense he creates for himself)

Cousins saw barely any spike in efficiency, when Dre entered the game replacing Ray late in the season, while Rudy looked much better with Dre than with Ray. Gay is vastly improved, when he receives the ball on the move rather than in stationary position, so I can see why Rudy would push for Rondo besides them being friends.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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A few reasons. One is that the Nets are resigning their own free agent and can exceed the cap to do so. Another is that Brooklyn is in a similar situation as Denver with Faried a few years back. Don't really want to overpay but can't afford to lose talent for nothing. It's a bad deal and a mistake IMO but they are stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Portland can exceed the cap for Matthews but every other team would have to have the cap room or do a sign-and-trade to give him a $15M contract. The Lakers have that kind of room. So does Philly. Beyond that I'm not sure.
You forgot the most important reason: seven feet tall.
 
It's gotta be something pretty bad. I bet before long, Vivek will exasperate Vlade into quitting.
That would be the final straw.

I think it sounds more like a trade Dave doesn't like...talking about how Bobby Flay can't make a meal with only charcoal for ingredients.

Whatever. It's started to become a little bit like the Facebook friend who likes to post things like "If only the world weren't such a cruel place..."

Dave, I respect you, buddy, but it's getting old. Stop with the mystery tweets, especially the sad ones.
 
So apparently Kings fans haven't learned that Free Agency is the worst way to improve a basketball team.

In reverse order, non-minimum free agent signings:

Ramon Sessions
Carl Landry
Chuck Hayes
Travis Outlaw (Technically he was amnestied, but he did bid for his contract)
Mikki Moore
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
John Salmons

I would think we would be thankful we didn't just give a center on his 15th season who has missed more than 200 games in his career a 4 year 54 Million deal. (Good job Phoenix.)
 
So apparently Kings fans haven't learned that Free Agency is the worst way to improve a basketball team.

In reverse order, non-minimum free agent signings:

Ramon Sessions
Carl Landry
Chuck Hayes
Travis Outlaw (Technically he was amnestied, but he did bid for his contract)
Mikki Moore
Shareef Abdur-Rahim
John Salmons

I would think we would be thankful we didn't just give a center on his 15th season who has missed more than 200 games in his career a 4 year 54 Million deal. (Good job Phoenix.)
You forgot Collison