George Karl, Mark Jackson or ??? (merged)
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Your points are correct but your constant harping on Vivek Ranadive kinda makes you look like a fool considering you registered your screen name as "HereWeVivek" and had his picture as your avatar forever. Just months ago he was a god to you and now you hate the guy? Over-react much both ways?
You're like the guy who falls head over heels for a girl on the first date, starts talking about marriage on the second date, and has her name tattooed on his arm by the 3rd date. A month later the whole things goes down in flames and you're stuck with a name "Winona" on your arm. Fortunately Johnny Depp had the creative sense to change it to "Wino Forever"......I suggest you request something similar.
As for all the talk about George Karl. The only reason he's not the coach yet is pretty simple. Vivek and PDA are looking for a guy to run their system and carry out their vision. George Karl is one of the more strong-willed coaches out there and he's one of very few coaches with the resume and cajones to flat out refuse to be anybody's puppet. If they really wanted Karl he would have already been the coach. At this point the only thing that gets him on the sidelines is the front office caving into fan demand as a result of a stack of losses and terrible play. Even so they'd have to admit they were wrong and not sure they're ready to do that yet.
You're like the guy who falls head over heels for a girl on the first date, starts talking about marriage on the second date, and has her name tattooed on his arm by the 3rd date. A month later the whole things goes down in flames and you're stuck with a name "Winona" on your arm. Fortunately Johnny Depp had the creative sense to change it to "Wino Forever"......I suggest you request something similar.
As for all the talk about George Karl. The only reason he's not the coach yet is pretty simple. Vivek and PDA are looking for a guy to run their system and carry out their vision. George Karl is one of the more strong-willed coaches out there and he's one of very few coaches with the resume and cajones to flat out refuse to be anybody's puppet. If they really wanted Karl he would have already been the coach. At this point the only thing that gets him on the sidelines is the front office caving into fan demand as a result of a stack of losses and terrible play. Even so they'd have to admit they were wrong and not sure they're ready to do that yet.
I would take Geoff Petrie right now over D'Alessandro and Mullin. Maybe I'm overly loyal but I thought he deserved one more shot with the new ownership group and without the restrictions that came with the last few years of the Maloofs. It made sense to leave him in place with the draft and free agency right around the corner and him having a better feel for the Kings roster as it stood.
And it would have made it a possibility that Adelman be hired on in a Coachie-like role to help Malone. Woulda Coulda Shoulda.
The sad part is that a month ago D'Alessandro had finally earned my respect. I disagreed with a lot of what he did that first offseason. Pretty much all of it really, from not being more aggressive in resigning Tyreke, to the flirtation with Iguodala, to signing Landry, to letting Robin Lopez go for nothing etc. But the team was actually showing some real life to start this season and he even stated that he was going to pump the brakes on roster changes and see what we had. Awesome. A surprise team that was gelling and he was throwing out his gambling, junkball tendencies to let it flourish and see how far Malone could take it. I was really optimistic at that point. And of course that would turn out to be the zenith of my opinion of him as a GM. I have serious doubts that he'll ever regain that level of esteem in my eyes. So frustrating.
And it would have made it a possibility that Adelman be hired on in a Coachie-like role to help Malone. Woulda Coulda Shoulda.
The sad part is that a month ago D'Alessandro had finally earned my respect. I disagreed with a lot of what he did that first offseason. Pretty much all of it really, from not being more aggressive in resigning Tyreke, to the flirtation with Iguodala, to signing Landry, to letting Robin Lopez go for nothing etc. But the team was actually showing some real life to start this season and he even stated that he was going to pump the brakes on roster changes and see what we had. Awesome. A surprise team that was gelling and he was throwing out his gambling, junkball tendencies to let it flourish and see how far Malone could take it. I was really optimistic at that point. And of course that would turn out to be the zenith of my opinion of him as a GM. I have serious doubts that he'll ever regain that level of esteem in my eyes. So frustrating.
Because he thought the Maloofs would balk at resigning Jason Thompson and they'd need a new starting PF. I also wonder how much the Maloofs influenced the Jimmer pick. I'm not a Petrie apologist, and he certainly had his share of blunders. But at least I always felt like the Kings had a very good shot of getting the better end of a trade and that he had the patience to let something build.
I've made a very similar prediction before too on another forum post right after Malone was fired. I'll bet my arms and legs that George Karl was their guy all along, despite acting as if they don't want him. It's all an act. Just shows how the front office thinks we can be taken for manipulable fools; but when at least two people from some strange forum know whats up, they learn that the fans are smarter than they believe.
How do Vivek and PDA not realize if people really wanted to be Warriors fans, they'd just be Warriors fans?
It's just a 75 min drive down 80. Fans all over Sac make the drive for baseball and football. If Sac fans really liked GS, they'd do the same. Instead, Sac fans want different. They want to beat GS. They are a natural rival. Why in god's name would anyone think we'd want to copy them and worse, do it by taking on their failures and hand-me-downs?
Incomprehensible.
Under Vivek's Christmas tree this year are going to be boxes upon boxes of stupid. Stupid for everyone. Plenty to go around. At least the stupid will be wrapped in stylish wrapping though.
It's just a 75 min drive down 80. Fans all over Sac make the drive for baseball and football. If Sac fans really liked GS, they'd do the same. Instead, Sac fans want different. They want to beat GS. They are a natural rival. Why in god's name would anyone think we'd want to copy them and worse, do it by taking on their failures and hand-me-downs?
Incomprehensible.
Under Vivek's Christmas tree this year are going to be boxes upon boxes of stupid. Stupid for everyone. Plenty to go around. At least the stupid will be wrapped in stylish wrapping though.
Terrible pick in retrospect, but at the time, despite what you might think, many teams would have done the same thing. Plus, I'm not sure if taking Robinson was Petrie's idea, or the Maloof's idea. When you consider that Gavin Maloof wanted to make love to Jimmer, who we drafted right in front of Klay Thompson, I think we can guess who made that pick. Lest we forget, Petrie also drafted Cousins, and Tyreke Evans, plus Omri Casspi that same year. So it wasn't all bad.
Good points but let's be honest, if the Kings never existed in Sacramento at least 90% of the current local King's fans would be Warriors fans. Just as they are currently 49ers or Raiders and Giants or A's fans. The average sports fan roots for the team closest to where they live and naturally roots against the closest rivals in proximity (in this case Warriors and Lakers).
There is no deep down disdain for the Warriors or their style of play. It's all built out of a geographical rivalry. If the Warriors had a great big man and the Kings had the best shooting backcourt in the World (Steph and Klay).......the same rivalry would still exist only the arguments would be switched.
There is no deep down disdain for the Warriors or their style of play. It's all built out of a geographical rivalry. If the Warriors had a great big man and the Kings had the best shooting backcourt in the World (Steph and Klay).......the same rivalry would still exist only the arguments would be switched.
umm no. he was not a "god" to me. i simply wanted to give him props and recognition with my screenname because he saved our franchise, like many Kings fans. But his over repeated catch phrases have been wearing thin on me for a while, but until recently it was nothing but talk. Now we've all seen what his meddling ways can do to our basketball team. From his crazy theories of 4 on 5 and copying the Warriors, to things like wanting to bring overpayed struggling players like Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, D-Will, etc.
He got Rudy, and by god it worked out, but let's call it what it was, blind luck. We got EXTREMELY lucky that Rudy actually became a productive player again when he got here. And let's be honest, the two biggest reasons are Mike Malone and DeMarcus Cousins. Otherwise it would be a disaster (see rudy during DMC's sickness). And we all know he still would have gone gung ho after Rudy even if DMC weren't here
By the way, i have asked to have my name changed
He got Rudy, and by god it worked out, but let's call it what it was, blind luck. We got EXTREMELY lucky that Rudy actually became a productive player again when he got here. And let's be honest, the two biggest reasons are Mike Malone and DeMarcus Cousins. Otherwise it would be a disaster (see rudy during DMC's sickness). And we all know he still would have gone gung ho after Rudy even if DMC weren't here
By the way, i have asked to have my name changed
Good points and all true but like I said that's why you don't get the name tattooed that early into the relationship (or at any point really).
It is funny and ironic that the guy that went with the Vivek screen name is the one bashing him more than literally anybody else on this forum.
I'd suggest keeping Vivek in the name and turning into another phrase...lol
It is funny and ironic that the guy that went with the Vivek screen name is the one bashing him more than literally anybody else on this forum.
I'd suggest keeping Vivek in the name and turning into another phrase...lol
lol don't worry. I've been in a relationship with the same woman for about 8 years now. No tattoo, no marriage even. 
And yea i guess it is a bit ironic, but he blew it
And yea i guess it is a bit ironic, but he blew it
Vivek is blowing it in the current sense but I don't think you can quite say he blew it yet. Time will tell and if he ends up hiring George Karl (in a save face move) and that worked out then everything would be forgotten pretty quickly.
At this point I don't even care about the motivations for hiring George Karl even if it's just to save face and not look like total morons as long as it gets done that is all that matters.
The brilliant move would be to hire a highly credible individual as both coach and GM. Then you make a bigger splash than the one you just made in firing Malone; PR problem solved. Then you hire a coach with even greater name recognition and credibility than Malone; coaching problem solved. Then you hire a guy as GM who has more gravitas than the greenhorn PDA; GM problem solved. And last, but not least, by hiring one individual as both the coach and GM, you eliminate the possibility of there being a future conflict between the next coach and the GM, thereby making the job highly desirable, rather than one in which coaching candidates are scared away because at any moment they can be back-stabbed. George Karl? It's something I would consider. Minni did this kind of move, and I like the direction they are headed.
