[Grades] Grades v. Grizzlies 11/13/2014

Biggest grrf of the loss?

  • Technical foul call on Boogie, with his back turned, in what turned out to be a 1pt loss.

    Votes: 9 10.3%
  • Ben dives in for the d-board with 1sec left...then chokes BOTH FTs setting up the loss.

    Votes: 2 2.3%
  • JT fails to guard the ONLY play the Grizz can score on with 0.3 left on the clock. We lose.

    Votes: 30 34.5%
  • Defensive collapse let's Memphis (averages 94.8pts/gm) score 95 in final 3/4.

    Votes: 17 19.5%
  • Hello bench, you are pathetic.

    Votes: 12 13.8%
  • Refs review final play, say no tip. Say all happend in 0.3sec. We're outa here. Tee time at 8.00

    Votes: 17 19.5%

  • Total voters
    87
  • Poll closed .

HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#32
I must have said it three times during the fourth quarter: we'd have had a better shot of winning if, when Cousins went to the bench, we had just deliberately held the ball on, like, five straight possessions, until we were charged with a shot clock violation. Even getting charged for five straight turnovers, we could have still managed to burn two full minutes of game time off the clock, and bought time for Cousins to come back in.

In fact, that should be Malone's new second-quarter strategy: let the starters get us up 20+ in the first quarter, and then tell Sessions/Stauskas/Evans et. al, "Okay, fellas, I need to get DeMarcus and Rudy about five good minutes of rest. So, what I want you to do is play defense, and run the shot clock out every possession on offense. Don't even bother trying to shoot, because they might get the rebound and score on a leak-out. Just hold the ball, and make them inbound on the violation, so we still have a chance to set our defense. All you have to do is stall, until I can put the real players back on the court."
This made me want to cry because it's true, but I literately laughed out loud... because it's true!
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#33
I thought .03 had to be a tip by rule
But, that can't be the rule. Even if you (foolishly) believe that the officials are 'OMGZCURRUPT~!', you can't possibly believe that they believe that Courtney Lee tipped the ball in on that possession. If the rule said that you couldn't catch and shoot with 0.3, there would have been nothing to review in the first place.
 

SLAB

Hall of Famer
#34
Instead of whining and complaining and moaning (I got that all out of my system on the Twitter. Much better place for me spew of ultimate pessimism) I'll leave it at this.

The Kings desperately need size off the bench. The tandem of Landry and Evans together is terrible. Bring in a big lug of a space occupier (Arron Gray type) to eat 10 minutes a game when DMC gets untimely fouls or needs a quick rest.

Sigh...
 
#35
http://hoopshabit.com/2014/09/12/nba-power-rankings-30-starting-power-forwards/

I do not consider Luc Ba A MOUTE a starting PF. So that places our very own JASON THOMPSON as THE WORST STARTING POWER FORWARD in the entire LEAGUE !!

So the question is what is PDA going to do about it? JT is a detriment to the team. Literally subtraction by addition. I think Coach Malone HAS to start Landry at the 4. Thompson gives us nothing and actually makes so many stupid numbskull plays that he is causing losses and he causes runs by the other team. We have NO backup Center and our starting PF is a DOOFUS. Hard to win with a cast like that...
 
#36
Instead of whining and complaining and moaning (I got that all out of my system on the Twitter. Much better place for me spew of ultimate pessimism) I'll leave it at this.

The Kings desperately need size off the bench. The tandem of Landry and Evans together is terrible. Bring in a big lug of a space occupier (Arron Gray type) to eat 10 minutes a game when DMC gets untimely fouls or needs a quick rest.

Sigh...
Yeah, said basically the same in the game thread. Sessions can't stop the ball and Evans isn't blocking no shots. This gets Landry in foul trouble, which shortens an already questionable bench.
 

hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
Staff member
#39
I know we've joked about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory before, but this one pretty much takes the cake.
This game was bad, but until they repeat this routine another 20 times or so in 6 weeks, including the last game of the year, they've got nothing on the 2014 Oakland A's. :) If I survived that mess, I'm pretty sure we can get through this too.

 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
#40
This game was bad, but until they repeat this routine another 20 times or so in 6 weeks, including the last game of the year, they've got nothing on the 2014 Oakland A's. :) If I survived that mess, I'm pretty sure we can get through this too.

Yep. If I can get through that wild card loss, I can get through this
 
#43
http://hoopshabit.com/2014/09/12/nba-power-rankings-30-starting-power-forwards/

I do not consider Luc Ba A MOUTE a starting PF. So that places our very own JASON THOMPSON as THE WORST STARTING POWER FORWARD in the entire LEAGUE !!

So the question is what is PDA going to do about it? JT is a detriment to the team. Literally subtraction by addition. I think Coach Malone HAS to start Landry at the 4. Thompson gives us nothing and actually makes so many stupid numbskull plays that he is causing losses and he causes runs by the other team. We have NO backup Center and our starting PF is a DOOFUS. Hard to win with a cast like that...
Celtics want to get rid if Bass and want a big get the deal done already.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#47
Instead of whining and complaining and moaning (I got that all out of my system on the Twitter. Much better place for me spew of ultimate pessimism) I'll leave it at this.

The Kings desperately need size off the bench. The tandem of Landry and Evans together is terrible. Bring in a big lug of a space occupier (Arron Gray type) to eat 10 minutes a game when DMC gets untimely fouls or needs a quick rest.

Sigh...
I multi-tasked. I've whined and complained here and on Twitter. :)
 
#49
This game was bad, but until they repeat this routine another 20 times or so in 6 weeks, including the last game of the year, they've got nothing on the 2014 Oakland A's. :) If I survived that mess, I'm pretty sure we can get through this too.

That's just not fair man, not fair........
 
#51
Unfortunately my NFL team and my NBA team have now mirrored eachother through 9 games.

Chargers lost their opener, rattle off 5 straights wins to go to 5-1 and shoot up all the power rankings, only to lose the last 3 and sit at 5-4 today

Kings, EXACT SAME THING
 
#52
I've been calling for a trade to get JT out of here for awhile. Yes, he is indeed the worst starting PF in the NBA without a doubt. His bball IQ and I'm quite sure IQ in general is amazingly low. And ya know its just not that. Its his whining, his face everytime he gets a foul called on him. How is it he has regressed every year that he's been in the league? Dude has ability on the court except maybe solid defense from time to time and rebounding.

If we can't fix the pf position soon this ball ain't Rollin much further. Everybody aside from Dwill has come back this season and improved...dwill gets a pass for now cause we don't have to play him but jt is our starting pf! Amazing....

I don't even want to bring up the anemic scoring average or the terrible field goal percentage....this dude needs to go. I'd rather have Channing freakin fry over him at this point. Such a crappy night, can't believe he wasn't guarding the one guy in position to score!
 
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#53
I hope the players were watching Inside the NBA, rather than trash the team for these past 2 losses, Kenny and Charles acknowledged that these Kings are playing good basketball, and have a recipe for winning, now they just need to learn how to finish the games. They cannot let this loss send this team into a funk, you just blew 20+ point lead on the road against two of the best teams in the west, no one would have ever said that going into the season. Learn from this, don't let this affect the team morale.
 
#57
Brick (and others): I really don't think you can say that the DeMarcus T cost of the game. First of all, we don't know the story behind it. I really doubt the referee T'ed him up for doing absolutely nothing. With that being said, you can't just assume that if there was no T then the outcome would have been the same but Memphis would have 1 less point. It just doesn't work like that. The T was an eternity, in basketball timing, before the end of the game. Teams likely would have played differently if the score was different.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#58
Brick (and others): I really don't think you can say that the DeMarcus T cost of the game. First of all, we don't know the story behind it. I really doubt the referee T'ed him up for doing absolutely nothing. With that being said, you can't just assume that if there was no T then the outcome would have been the same but Memphis would have 1 less point. It just doesn't work like that. The T was an eternity, in basketball timing, before the end of the game. Teams likely would have played differently if the score was different.
That technical put him on the bench. That, much like what was referred to by Donaghy in his despicable tome, was how officials could control the likely outcome of games without being obvious. To me, the notion that we're even reminded of Donaghy because of things like this is a black eye on the league. Adam Silver needs to get on this, especially since there have already been several games where the screams of the fans because of horrific officiating rose to deafening heights.
 
#59
Did the Kings play terrible defense? Yes
Did Ben McLemore choke the game away at the line? Yes
Did the Kings play TERRIBLE defense on the last play? Yes

But did Ryan Hollins tip the ball and the clock expired with the Kings up 110-109? HELL YES
 
#60
That technical put him on the bench. That, much like what was referred to by Donaghy in his despicable tome, was how officials could control the likely outcome of games without being obvious. To me, the notion that we're even reminded of Donaghy because of things like this is a black eye on the league. Adam Silver needs to get on this, especially since there have already been several games where the screams of the fans because of horrific officiating rose to deafening heights.
You mean the personal foul put him on the bench? A tech doesn't add a personal foul also.