[Grades] Grades v. Grizzlies 11/13/2014
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Kingster
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After I watched Thompson leaving the basket to follow Courtney Lee around the Memphis screen, I couldn't help wondering: How far would Thompson follow this guy away from the basket with 0.3 seconds left on the clock? If Lee went to the top of the key would Thompson follow him there? If Lee went to the three point line would Thompson follow him there? How about the half-court line?
KingsFanGER
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JT played solid D on Randolph, but Randolph is a PF JT can guard, cause he is slow and bothered by length. JT is a disaster guarding quicker players and he is missing rotations all the time and he does a poor job contesting shot's at the rim.
The backup center position is a concern, but it's mainly our starting PF-spot, that gives us basically no production at all. Please do me a favor and name a starting PF around the league, who you consider being worse than JT. I personally can't imagine more than a few.
The Hammer
All-Star
You know, whatever the final result of the game/protest, I do have a feeling of confidence that the guys will become stronger/galvanized/determined from this. Mostly I think I feel this way due to the strong vets we have on our team, e.g. Reggie Evans. If JT were our leading "vet", I'd be worried. But we have the Hollinses, the Collisons, the Evanses, even Casspi at this point. I think these guys appreciate and know how to focus the energy of team-wide frustration that inevitably comes from experiences like this. And, in a way, kind of have to happen, if you're going to grow as a team. That can't all fall on Malone. That kind of encouragement and leadership MUST come from the senior members of the team. So yes, it's angering, but I personally do see the silver lining, given PDA's wiley roster shifts.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
I think that works only if you jump off both feet at the same time. There is no way you can pick up your pivot foot and then stand on the other leg. That's a travel
KingsFanGER
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I hope you are right. It will depend mainly how Cousins reacts to this loss. Can he keep his emotions in check, when he is called out of the games all the time? Can he cut down the amount of stupid fouls? Can he stay focused?
He made major steps this season, but this is a lot of pressure on his shoulders. I guess the vets will help him. We will see, if this is enough.
The Hammer
All-Star
If you're already pivoting, and have used your dribble, then once you pick up your pivot foot, you have to release the ball before any other foot comes down.
If you are in the act of picking up your dribble, you essentially have a full step to use to get somewhere, and then have to release the ball before putting your "non" pivot foot down = pick up dribble, plant, step, step again, then release the ball before putting that second foot down. That's essentially moving your pivot foot, but it's in the act of passing or shooting. That's what they are talking about.
The Hammer
All-Star
I actually welcome the challenge, and I think the team does too.
So then a jump shot would be a travel?
No, it's not! Learn the rules!
Sac.Kings
All-Star
The way I understand it is as follows. You are allowed to take two steps and then have your pivot foot operate as normal. However the second you pick up your pivot foot would be considered a travel unless you are jumping to shoot a layup or jump shot. If you pick up your pivot foot and you are still on the ground I think that is considered a travel because then you have a new pivot foot and that you can't do.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
http://www.nba.com/nba101/misunderstood_0708.html
Read the first sentence on the subject of traveling.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
If the Kings are up big in the first quarter, look out!
The Hammer
All-Star
Clearly a travel.
It was, and I saw that too, and though the exact same thing. Can't review a non-call though.
But, to clarify, it's at the moment he barely picks up and moves his right foot, which you can tell he did on accident because he got off balance (due to the defensive pressure). Clearly should have been called a travel.
That first sentence only applies to starting a dribble. Not shooting or passing. It is not a travel until the pivot foot returns to the floor, so yes, by rule you could lift your pivot foot and stand on 1 leg. Looks crazy, but after officiating basketball for 10 years I have learned that just cause something looks bad doesn't mean it was against the rules.
It does appear that the right foot (the pivot foot) comes very slightly off the ground and comes back down. I doubt the refs see that in real time, but yep, in the words of the refs "I see space".
FaStRmAn
Starter
Clearly a travel.
If that isnt a travel, WHAT IS ?
Sac.Kings
All-Star
I read that too actually just saw it. Can't believe it. My bad to everyone.
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
Clearly a travel.
They never make that call in the NBA. Honestly, that's another bad defensive play. Running and leaping at a 3 point shooter to make a block, which very nearly resulted in a foul. The proper play from the much longer player, is to stay in front with hands up. If he happens to make over the top, then it's a great shot....instead of a wide open shot and/or free throw line
This was a travel, by rule, but I'll be honest, I didn't think it was live. It's very easy to look at plays like this in slow motion and pick them apart. It was a very subtle lift, and officials will not make a call like that unless 100% sure. Part of the human element to the game. Look people, officials miss calls. If you had a conversation with one, they would tell you that much. Players miss shots, coaches make poor decisions, officials miss calls. All of it is part of the game. But as fans it is far easier for us to put the onus on officials rather than look at the game objectively. It's what makes being a fan great. We all think our teams get screwed, and guess what.....they do. It is the beauty of sports. If you ask any Laker fan, when Kobe missed the last shot against us in game 5, Kobe was fouled by Bobby. Webber illegally picked Fisher. Then we got screwed in game 6. This is 1 reason I love sports. We, as fans, are all the same. It's great.
KingsFanGER
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You have to keep in mind, that it's Cousins closing out. The Kid is 6'11 and 260? Takes some time to stop this kind of body if you are at full speed. If he tried to stop in front of Conley it could happen, that he is carried right into him by his momentum.
The Hammer
All-Star
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
That's right. He needs to move towards him with enough body control and pace to stay in front, in a defensive position. The fact that he is very long is why he doesn't need to go all out at a smaller player. Running full speed and leaping at him, is not the right play there. Again it resulted in a wide open look and he nearly also brushed up against him for a foul
Albatros
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Funny that Mayo travels too on his shot.
Clearly a travel.
I stand corrected....yes, that absolutely is a travel...his right foot was his pivot foot which he lifted up and put back down before shooting.
Read it. That's to start a dribble. If you lift your pivot foot and hold the ball it's nothing but you can only pass or shoot at that point. If you lift it and then dribble, then it's a travel.
