Omri Casspi - good signing or not?

Omri - good signing or waste?


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dude12

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I'm not the biggest Casspi supporter. I was a Donte Greene guy back when that was a thing.

With that being said, despite his low end contract he might play a decent amount of minutes for this team, which is my way of saying are we sure he isn't better than Derrick Williams? because I am not sure of that. And yes, that says more about Williams than it does Casspi.
Having watched both players play for us and against us, Casspi is a better player. Just to reinforce that thought, fwiw, Casspi put up good numbers with his national team recently while DWill played poorly in Summer League, even if he played for just a few games....it was just disappointing.
 
Well, if we just think in a simplistic view of what do we want to surround Cuz and Gay with:

Floor spacing
rebounding
Spot-up shooting
defense/hustle/energy etc

http://www.basketball-reference.com...m=0&p1=casspom01&y1=2014&p2=willide02&y2=2014

Casspi just has Williams beat across the board. I just feel Williams is a guy who needs 30+ minutes to really get into the flow of a game and ramp up a bit. Small sample, but Williams was a positive impact player in his 15 starts last season and actually had a positive +/-. His reserve numbers are drastically lower.

For what we want in the 15 MPG out of the back-up SF, I feel Casspi brings a lot more to the team than Williams does.
This is more or less my line of thinking. Casspi played 18 effective minutes per game last season in Houston. Casspi was a essentially a top-8 rotation guy for a playoff team. Williams has never been able to do that in a reserve role.
 
Casspi adds what this team needs. Energy, defense, 3 point shooting in brief minutes.

I'm still trying to figure out what it is Williams does. Seriously, anyone?
 
Casspi might be the best "value" in the league right now. Not sure exactly what it is, but he's got the eye of the tiger this season.

Maybe it's a rekindled spirit being back in Sacramento, where he indicated right away that he really wanted to be. Whatever it is, the dude has an inspired burn going on. The kind of passion we need out there
 
Casspi might be the best "value" in the league right now. Not sure exactly what it is, but he's got the eye of the tiger this season.

Maybe it's a rekindled spirit being back in Sacramento, where he indicated right away that he really wanted to be. Whatever it is, the dude has an inspired burn going on. The kind of passion we need out there
this is a decidedly less romantic take, but i figure that omri recognizes the need to make an impact--and the need to cut the prima donna act--in order to stick in the nba, given that his return to the kings constitutes a 4th destination in 5 years...
 
this is a decidedly less romantic take, but i figure that omri recognizes the need to make an impact--and the need to cut the prima donna act--in order to stick in the nba, given that his return to the kings constitutes a 4th destination in 5 years...
Either way... I, for one, like the fire.
 
Either way... I, for one, like the fire.
oh, so do i. it's quite nice to see a humbled omri back in sacramento, and he's playing like a guy who wants to make a difference off the bench, which is important, given how maddeningly inconsistent the kings' bench is likely to be this season...
 
Casspi adds what this team needs. Energy, defense, 3 point shooting in brief minutes.

I'm still trying to figure out what it is Williams does. Seriously, anyone?
Williams does have those very interesting short dreads... so maybe, when players are playing and see him on the bench they think the same thing I do: "I wonder why more people don't have short dreads... I wonder how long they would take to grow... They are sort of like regular dreads without the time commitment... I wonder if I could grow those by Christmas..." then, whoosh, the ball is stolen while the player was distracted. Seems like an effective role...
 
Omri would not be any worse at SG than McLemore or Stauskas.

If Omri is good enough to be playing the last 6 minutes of the game (because the Kings need a reliable player who won't F things up at the end of the game)..... then he should be considered to start the game.
 

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That doesn't really follow logically; Bobby Jackson finished games, but did not start them. Who plays at the end is a ****ty criteria for who plays at the start.
 
Can he keep it up? Casspi usually starts strong and then fades away.
Yes, here's the million $ (or much more than one million actually) question for Casspi...
It actually happened 4 in 5 years in NBA (and the year it didn't - Omri was out of rotation all the season)
I can argue that every time was different and Casspi wasn't to be blamed in some of cases.
In the rookie year it was probably "rookie wall" and overall team deterioration in the second part of the season.
In the second year Westphal bacame erratic placing players in starting five or doghouse on base of any two or three playes and driving them all (Garcia, Greene, even DMC:)) crazy.
In the first year in Cavs Casspi appeared not completely recovered from an injury and his attempt to gain muscle weight backfired with reduces athletism, also Byron Scott from the beginning didn't like Casspi as starter and all in all it was less of worse playing late in the season and more of lost credit (which he even initially got from GM and not from coach as it seems)
And the year in Houston... Omri started very well, than came some shooting slump (actually quite understandable) and... Casspi was out of rotation. Not sure it was so much for his play and not because some other considerations - developing DMo (lost cause I think), looking for players capable "to contibute more in playoffs", etc...

But even if it's partly just seqeunce of random events, Casspi was inconsistent player in his NBA carrier, and here seems to be some "barrier" preventing him to contribute for full season...
What's Omri is trying to do - is to play more basic ball, which is not dependent on slumps and cold-hands periods: go to basket and get fauled, make entry pass, move ball around, move without ball for easy basket.
 
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I have also noticed that Casspi plays totally different game now that he has been playing during his whole NBA stint. Casspi appeared notorious for standing in the corner and waiting for that pass for him to make the corner 3pt attempt. Generally nobody passed him the ball and his PER looked poor (low score/min). Deemed as a 3pt role player, he started to take the shots not from the corner, somewhat lacking that range, and often with bad timing (time left on the shot clock). Standing in the corner also cost him offensive rebounding.

In the 4 games with SAC this time he does not even try the 3pt shot (only 2 attempts). He drives to the basket with more maturity than in the past. He either makes it, draws a foul or kicks it out (which he does quite nicely). He has learned to pass the ball and he has the ability to find the open guy under or above the rim. He is quite a talented rebounder in both ends of the court (despite the hard competition for those rebounds in SAC). He has also stepped up his defense and he is way past the liability claim he had in this department in the past. Now he also puts his energy in it.

So I would say that this is a new pakage of Omri Casspi. A much improved one, because he now does things that he knows how to do instead of trying to be the 3pt specialist, which he can do fairly well, but not consistently(which is frustrating). The question remains: How much of this is because Omri Casspi or is it because Mike Malone. Never mind, Omri appears to be an excellent signing for 1 mil a year. He really contributes. As long as he does that, he is in the rotation.
 
I have also noticed that Casspi plays totally different game now that he has been playing during his whole NBA stint. Casspi appeared notorious for standing in the corner and waiting for that pass for him to make the corner 3pt attempt. Generally nobody passed him the ball and his PER looked poor (low score/min). Deemed as a 3pt role player, he started to take the shots not from the corner, somewhat lacking that range, and often with bad timing (time left on the shot clock). Standing in the corner also cost him offensive rebounding.

In the 4 games with SAC this time he does not even try the 3pt shot (only 2 attempts). He drives to the basket with more maturity than in the past. He either makes it, draws a foul or kicks it out (which he does quite nicely). He has learned to pass the ball and he has the ability to find the open guy under or above the rim. He is quite a talented rebounder in both ends of the court (despite the hard competition for those rebounds in SAC). He has also stepped up his defense and he is way past the liability claim he had in this department in the past. Now he also puts his energy in it.

So I would say that this is a new pakage of Omri Casspi. A much improved one, because he now does things that he knows how to do instead of trying to be the 3pt specialist, which he can do fairly well, but not consistently(which is frustrating). The question remains: How much of this is because Omri Casspi or is it because Mike Malone. Never mind, Omri appears to be an excellent signing for 1 mil a year. He really contributes. As long as he does that, he is in the rotation.
As I've said already in another thread Omri was not shooter at all in his young days and now he improved his ballhandling - so this kind of game is actually more natural to him (while I hope he will hit some 3pt too).
I think Casspi wanted to change his game last year (he was trying drives and entry passes in the beginning of the year) but he was used as strech-4 in Houston... and strech-4 is supposed to shoot many long range attempts.