Rumor mill heating up June 19

twslam07

twslam07

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pshn80 said:
.... and where is your Gibson and Afflado who make
JT a problem? He is what he is and we have him as a starter moe often than not for some years. And, I might add, not a major reason why we haven't won more.
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The entire reason we are talking about trading Thompson is because he was involved in a trade proposal for Gibson and Afflalo. Why don't you read the entire conversation before replying next time.

Please read what I said. Is Thompson the player a problem? No. I happen to like him as a player. I like what he brings and think he is a good third big. Is Thompson's contract a problem? Yes. When you have almost $22 mil invested in your two starting frontcourt players (Cousins and Gibson). It's not very practical to have your third big making $6 mil.
 
Jerichoholic

Jerichoholic

Bench
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andremiller07 said:
I still to this day cannot beleive how awful a deal that is, everytime I think of it I just wonder why.
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For sure! Typically we on this site we can come to some consensus as to why a move was made, even a bad one. However this one has left everyone continuing to ask why. Is there anyone that is willing to ask the front office why? Carmichael Dave hasn't even asked, although I'm guessing he wants to maintain the good relationship he has with the team. There really is no logical explanation. It doesn't even have to do with the injury, even if he plays all season he isn't worth that deal. Makes you wonder if Landry was simply one of Ranadive's favorite players on the Warriors and he wanted him. If so it's another example as to why owners shouldn't be too involved in these things, this is just speculation though.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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Jerichoholic said:
For sure! Typically we on this site we can come to some consensus as to why a move was made, even a bad one. However this one has left everyone continuing to ask why. Is there anyone that is willing to ask the front office why? Carmichael Dave hasn't even asked, although I'm guessing he wants to maintain the good relationship he has with the team. There really is no logical explanation. It doesn't even have to do with the injury, even if he plays all season he isn't worth that deal. Makes you wonder if Landry was simply one of Ranadive's favorite players on the Warriors and he wanted him. If so it's another example as to why owners shouldn't be too involved in these things, this is just speculation though.
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The last conjecture is closest, but unfortunately It may have been Malone responsible, at the very least for endorsing the move. He was supposed to be a Landry jocker, Landry had one of his better seasons of the Warriors in front of a newbie owner and a wouldbe rookie head coach, and he was seen as rookie coach insurance to make sure all or guys knew his system/bought in etc. etc. Of course being newbies they didn't have much of a grasp of the history here, nor the market. They wanted to do something, and so they did.

I am viewing this offseason as something of an intelligence/grow a pair summer. You ****ed up. Repeatedly. Good, admit it, grow up from it, correct it.
 
John Galt

John Galt

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I think they believed it would be simpler to move JT, and they simply liked Landry better as a player. That simple. Harder to understand than the move itself is how it persists as the second biggest gripe at PDA even though he hasn't even hardly played yet - and why Tyreke and Landry can't just be freaking water under the bridge at some point. Dead horse
 
Jerichoholic

Jerichoholic

Bench
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Bricklayer said:
The last conjecture is closest, but unfortunately It may have been Malone responsible, at the very least for endorsing the move. He was supposed to be a Landry jocker, Landry had one of his better seasons of the Warriors in front of a newbie owner and a wouldbe rookie head coach, and he was seen as rookie coach insurance to make sure all or guys knew his system/bought in etc. etc. Of course being newbies they didn't have much of a grasp of the history here, nor the market. They wanted to do something, and so they did.

I am viewing this offseason as something of an intelligence/grow a pair summer. You ****ed up. Repeatedly. Good, admit it, grow up from it, correct it.
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Exactly, Landry was something familiar, something safe in a way for a new owner, rookie GM, and rookie head coach. Unfortunately, this is the big leagues, it's not about feeling comfortable, it's about winning. I'm tired of these mediocre players being signed because they are "good leaders", "good locker room guys", and "good influences". Chuck Hayes was supposedly a good leader too. However leadership is made on the court, from guys who win or have won and were at least somewhat responsible for that winning. Good influences don't make teams good. Good players make teams good and they become the good influences. I hope our front office can understand that.
 
Big Cuz 15

Big Cuz 15

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andremiller07 said:
I still to this day cannot beleive how awful a deal that is, everytime I think of it I just wonder why.
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noob front office

Jerichoholic said:
Exactly, Landry was something familiar, something safe in a way for a new owner, rookie GM, and rookie head coach. Unfortunately, this is the big leagues, it's not about feeling comfortable, it's about winning. I'm tired of these mediocre players being signed because they are "good leaders", "good locker room guys", and "good influences". Chuck Hayes was supposedly a good leader too. However leadership is made on the court, from guys who win or have won and were at least somewhat responsible for that winning. Good influences don't make teams good. Good players make teams good and they become the good influences. I hope our front office can understand that.
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right, if you want some feel good guys, go sign a ray allen type for the minimum or 2m. some vet leadership and can teach the young ones a few things.
 
Hadlowe

Hadlowe

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rainmaker said:
Not Kings related, but Chandler about to be traded back to Dallas according to Marc Stein.

Felton too. Calderon/Dalembert to NY.
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I'm somewhat amazed that Felton is moveable. I think he still has gun charges pending that could void his contract if found guilty.

Edit: Yep, still pending. He is about to plead guilty to a low level felony.
 
Hadlowe

Hadlowe

Starter
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Hadlowe said:
I'm somewhat amazed that Felton is moveable. I think he still has gun charges pending that could void his contract if found guilty.

Edit: Yep, still pending. He is about to plead guilty to a low level felony.
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I'll also add that this means that Melo is gone from NY. Chandler was the only thing holding that team together on defense. Dalembert is a serviceable rim protector, but is hardly an anchor. I would say that it's time to raid the store on the Knicks, but there isn't really anything on that team worth going after.
 
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