Well, see you in a different uniform next season IT
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Not sure how reliable he is, but it'd have to take place after the draft as a sign and trade, with Phoenix letting us know who they'd want at 8. Can't see it happening, though Cousins does love Bledsloe. Wouldn't be surprised if he did tell the FO he'd like to play with him. Obviously from our POV you do that, but I don't think it's likely at all.
Actually, can you trade a player (#8) along with the signed player (IT) in a S+T? Capt. Factorial, you're needed for service.
Not sure how reliable he is, but it'd have to take place after the draft as a sign and trade, with Phoenix letting us know who they'd want at 8. Can't see it happening, though Cousins does love Bledsloe. Wouldn't be surprised if he did tell the FO he'd like to play with him. Obviously from our POV you do that, but I don't think it's likely at all.
Actually, can you trade a player (#8) along with the signed player (IT) in a S+T? Capt. Factorial, you're needed for service.
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Not sure how reliable this is, but i probably do it. I like IT, but with Bledsoe, we get a guy who will for sure be the starting PG for this team long term..not a guy that may be better suited as a combo guard off the bench. Although there are those that think Bledsoe is an more off the bench guard too, so i dunno. I do know that Bledsoe's size is something we need and his defense is vastly superior to IT's. As a facilitator, i probably give the edge to Bledsoe.
You can't do a sign-and-trade (IT) for a sign-and-trade (Bledsoe). So the report is 100% false. Can't happen.
This may no longer be true. I can't find anything in the current CBA FAQ that says that you can't sign-and-trade for a sign-and-trade. That's odd, because I recall some very severe restrictions on what could be done with sign-and-trades, but maybe they were lifted with the 2011 CBA.
However, even if we were allowed to do a S&T of IT for a S&T of Bledsoe, there could be the further complication of the Base Year Compensation rule. If Rudy opts in, then IT's S&T contract would put us over the cap. Because he will be getting more than a 20% raise in a S&T scenario, his outgoing salary for our purposes would be only 50% of his actual salary. So if we signed IT for $8M, he would only count for $4M in our outgoing salary but $8M for Phoenix's incoming salary. (The same would not necessarily apply to Bledsoe because the Suns will be under the cap after they sign him if they do it early in the offseason.)
I imagine that Bledsoe will probably get $11M. For us to receive $11M, we will have to send out about $7.3M. But since IT at "$4M" and the #8 pick at $2.3M would only come up $1M short, we could include Outlaw (or Acy...he would be close depending on the exact salaries involved) and make the trade work.
So maybe that could actually happen.
This may no longer be true. I can't find anything in the current CBA FAQ that says that you can't sign-and-trade for a sign-and-trade. That's odd, because I recall some very severe restrictions on what could be done with sign-and-trades, but maybe they were lifted with the 2011 CBA.
However, even if we were allowed to do a S&T of IT for a S&T of Bledsoe, there could be the further complication of the Base Year Compensation rule. If Rudy opts in, then IT's S&T contract would put us over the cap. Because he will be getting more than a 20% raise in a S&T scenario, his outgoing salary for our purposes would be only 50% of his actual salary. So if we signed IT for $8M, he would only count for $4M in our outgoing salary but $8M for Phoenix's incoming salary. (The same would not necessarily apply to Bledsoe because the Suns will be under the cap after they sign him if they do it early in the offseason.)
I imagine that Bledsoe will probably get $11M. For us to receive $11M, we will have to send out about $7.3M. But since IT at "$4M" and the #8 pick at $2.3M would only come up $1M short, we could include Outlaw (or Acy...he would be close depending on the exact salaries involved) and make the trade work.
So maybe that could actually happen.
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