Isaiah Thomas @Isaiah_Thomas2 2m
It isn't about what you walk away from, it's about what you walk away with
It isn't about what you walk away from, it's about what you walk away with
Well, see you in a different uniform next season IT
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As we all have mentioned before hand...anything above 6-7 mil. per year and we let him go. I doubt he will get that much to begin with in the open market but you never know. Can't fault him for thinking of the money, he was a second round draft pick and if we were in his situation I'm sure more often than not we would bolt for the money too if a team was willing to pay.
3/20 is where I would go, max. I just can't fathom more for a player who is a defensive liability.
You never know what the quote means, but if we take it at face value, then he's chasing the dollars. Can't really blame him, as he likely won't have the opportunity to get this big a pay raise in the future.
You never know what the quote means, but if we take it at face value, then he's chasing the dollars. Can't really blame him, as he likely won't have the opportunity to get this big a pay raise in the future.
From what I have gathered from interviews with PDA and Malone recently, I'm thinking IT is a goner. Either we are going to make a big trade on draft day for a big name player(and keep Gay in the process). Or both are gone and we start over. At this point any change is a good thing, we need a TEAM, and for the last several years we have been a bunch of individuals using our team as a platform for their next paycheck. The only thing with IT is that he can be a very useful piece down the line on a good team off the bench. If we can keep him on on a good contract we should. I mean look at Jamal Crawford, Clips do not beat the Warriors without him, you need guys that can make a play or get their own shot(we just happen to have 3 of them that all start together on a bad team, not a good formula).
Could know something from talking to our team however. I just don't see what the advantage would be for our front office to have spoken to him about this even if they really were thinking of letting him go, unless, and here would be the unless, they wanted to alert his agent for sign and trade possibilities.
But that is all wildly speculative. IT just may feel he might move on. Or he may have known about interest back at the trade deadline. Or he may have just liked the song. Who knows.
Here's an interesting interview with "bruski" who thinks IT could be worth up to 11-12 million dollars a year!
Here's an interesting interview with "bruski" who thinks IT could be worth up to 11-12 million dollars a year!
i can't see a team offering isaiah $10 million of their cap space anyway. remember last year nobody wanted jeff teague or monta ellis, and they got stuck with $8 million deals. i think the same thing will happen to isaiah.
also, if i look down the list of teams with cap space, i just don't think any of them would want to spend it on isaiah first.
also, if i look down the list of teams with cap space, i just don't think any of them would want to spend it on isaiah first.
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who is gonna be the new Pizza guy I wonder.
I can see why some people don't see IT as starting PG on a contender, but damn - he was one of very few guys on the team who could put the freaking ball in the freaking hole. I wish he got a little more balanced evaluation on here. He's easy to hate on but if I were in his shoes I'd be looking to get PAID right now, and its not like leaving Sacramento is a heartbreaking kind of personal thing to go through.
I really really wish him well if he leaves, and I'm fine if the Kings pay him too. ($8M X 3)
I can see why some people don't see IT as starting PG on a contender, but damn - he was one of very few guys on the team who could put the freaking ball in the freaking hole. I wish he got a little more balanced evaluation on here. He's easy to hate on but if I were in his shoes I'd be looking to get PAID right now, and its not like leaving Sacramento is a heartbreaking kind of personal thing to go through.
I really really wish him well if he leaves, and I'm fine if the Kings pay him too. ($8M X 3)
Monta Ellis got a three year deal worth $25 million, and Jeff Teague got a four year deal worth $32 million - that's $8.5 and $8 million a season respectively. Is Thomas going to be in that ballpark?
It wouldn't surprise me. This season you potentially have point guards like Eric Bledsoe (17.7 ppg, 5.5 apg, 19.62 per), Kyle Lowry (17.9 ppg, 7.4 apg, 20.20 per), and Mario Chalmers (9.8 ppg, 4.9 apg, 14.06 per) joining Thomas in free agency. Last year Monta Ellis averaged 19.4 ppg, 6.1 apg, and 16.56 per; and Jeff Teague averaged 14.5 ppg, 7.2 apg, and 16.86 per. So stats wise, Thomas doesn't look out of place against those guys with his performance this season - 20.3 ppg, 6.2 apg and 20.54 per.
Now I don't know how much the market will value these potential free agents, but it will be unlikely to see Bledsoe, Lowry or Thomas receiving less than what Ellis and Teague got paid last season. Personally I don't see the Suns or Raptors letting Bledsoe and Lowry leave after their contributions to their team's success this season, but in regards to Thomas, I am not convinced we should pay him that type of money for a player with his shortfalls.
We could look to his replacement in the draft. Marcus Smart could be available at #7, and the likes of Tyler Ennis, Shabazz Napier and Elfrid Payton should be available in the mid-first round. It would be nice if we could acquire another first round pick to go along with our top ten pick to allow us to come out of the draft with a haul like Noah Vonleh and Ennis/Napier/Payton. But if we traded our #7 pick for Chicago's #16 and #19, we could come out of it with a haul like Ennis/Napier/Payton and Grant/Payne. Either scenario would allow us to replace Thomas, by adding two first round players talent and saving cap space to re-sign Rudy Gay and/or another big name player. The alternative way would be to try and outbid the Suns and Raptors for Bledsoe and Lowry, though that could turn out to be a very expensive option.
It wouldn't surprise me. This season you potentially have point guards like Eric Bledsoe (17.7 ppg, 5.5 apg, 19.62 per), Kyle Lowry (17.9 ppg, 7.4 apg, 20.20 per), and Mario Chalmers (9.8 ppg, 4.9 apg, 14.06 per) joining Thomas in free agency. Last year Monta Ellis averaged 19.4 ppg, 6.1 apg, and 16.56 per; and Jeff Teague averaged 14.5 ppg, 7.2 apg, and 16.86 per. So stats wise, Thomas doesn't look out of place against those guys with his performance this season - 20.3 ppg, 6.2 apg and 20.54 per.
Now I don't know how much the market will value these potential free agents, but it will be unlikely to see Bledsoe, Lowry or Thomas receiving less than what Ellis and Teague got paid last season. Personally I don't see the Suns or Raptors letting Bledsoe and Lowry leave after their contributions to their team's success this season, but in regards to Thomas, I am not convinced we should pay him that type of money for a player with his shortfalls.
We could look to his replacement in the draft. Marcus Smart could be available at #7, and the likes of Tyler Ennis, Shabazz Napier and Elfrid Payton should be available in the mid-first round. It would be nice if we could acquire another first round pick to go along with our top ten pick to allow us to come out of the draft with a haul like Noah Vonleh and Ennis/Napier/Payton. But if we traded our #7 pick for Chicago's #16 and #19, we could come out of it with a haul like Ennis/Napier/Payton and Grant/Payne. Either scenario would allow us to replace Thomas, by adding two first round players talent and saving cap space to re-sign Rudy Gay and/or another big name player. The alternative way would be to try and outbid the Suns and Raptors for Bledsoe and Lowry, though that could turn out to be a very expensive option.
So here are some salary comparisons in round numbers:
Jamal Crawford - 5.2 Mil
Kyle Lowry - 6.2 Mil
Monta Ellis - 8 - Mil
Jeff Teague - 8 - Mil
Where does IT fit in those Salary numbers? Depends on how you rate IT's game. I like Lowry or Teague as starters over IT. As a sixth man IT is right in there with Crawford or Monta. I think Crawford has them by a hair due to his Clutchness
Here are the PG Free Agents, IT is rated #3 by Hoopshype: http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/point_guards_2014.htm
Jamal Crawford - 5.2 Mil
Kyle Lowry - 6.2 Mil
Monta Ellis - 8 - Mil
Jeff Teague - 8 - Mil
Where does IT fit in those Salary numbers? Depends on how you rate IT's game. I like Lowry or Teague as starters over IT. As a sixth man IT is right in there with Crawford or Monta. I think Crawford has them by a hair due to his Clutchness
Here are the PG Free Agents, IT is rated #3 by Hoopshype: http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/point_guards_2014.htm
So here are some salary comparisons in round numbers:
Jamal Crawford - 5.2 Mil
Kyle Lowry - 6.2 Mil
Monta Ellis - 8 - Mil
Jeff Teague - 8 - Mil
Where does IT fit in those Salary numbers? Depends on how you rate IT's game. I like Lowry or Teague as starters over IT. As a sixth man IT is right in there with Crawford or Monta. I think Crawford has them by a hair due to his Clutchness
Here are the PG Free Agents, IT is rated #3 by Hoopshype: http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/point_guards_2014.htm
Jamal Crawford - 5.2 Mil
Kyle Lowry - 6.2 Mil
Monta Ellis - 8 - Mil
Jeff Teague - 8 - Mil
Where does IT fit in those Salary numbers? Depends on how you rate IT's game. I like Lowry or Teague as starters over IT. As a sixth man IT is right in there with Crawford or Monta. I think Crawford has them by a hair due to his Clutchness
Here are the PG Free Agents, IT is rated #3 by Hoopshype: http://hoopshype.com/free_agency/point_guards_2014.htm
In regards to IT, based on this season's performance, he has probably played himself into the 6 to 8 million bracket. If we can get him on a three year deal worth around $6 million then keeping hold of him could be a good idea. Though if there is demand he could command at least $8 million, and at that price I think I would probably let him walk or do a sign-and-trade.