Top 3 pick selection?

If the Kings have a top 3 pick, who should they take?

  • Joel Embiid

    Votes: 42 72.4%

  • Andre Wiggins

    Votes: 10 17.2%

  • Jabari Parker

    Votes: 4 6.9%

  • Dante Exum

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Julius Randle

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    58
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KingMilz

Guest
#61
#61
Have we not passed on enough big men (T-Rob is not a big man) next to Cousins like Drummond to know we should surely select Joel if we get the chance? Far harder to find a big man than a chucking SF.

The idea of having a defence only big next to Cousins is not as ideal as we think imo, I rather have a two way player over a one way player any day of the week.
 
King Baller

King Baller

All-Star
#64
#64
Bricklayer said:
I like the looks of Exum a lot. But you never know competition wise.

And you don't turn down a Twin Towers team. If Embid is the real thing, you are guaranteed formidable for a dozen years.
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All true, though the Draft is full of risks with few can't miss players. Is Embid the Next Big Thing or is he the 2014 version of Pervis Ellison? Exum is just a kid who has little in game experience to judge him by. Parker looks pretty close to being a can't miss. Wiggins could be the next Scottie Pippen. I just like Exum in the little I have seen of him.

It would be a nice problem to have. Picking in the Top 3:)
 
Gary

Gary

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#65
#65
King Baller said:
All true, though the Draft is full of risks with few can't miss players. Is Embid the Next Big Thing or is he the 2014 version of Pervis Ellison? Exum is just a kid who has little in game experience to judge him by. Parker looks pretty close to being a can't miss. Wiggins could be the next Scottie Pippen. I just like Exum in the little I have seen of him.

It would be a nice problem to have. Picking in the Top 3:)
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It would be a nice problem, but I am sure it would create division on the forum again, which is I guess good for conversation!
 
Hadlowe

Hadlowe

Starter
#66
#66
If you get the #1 pick, Embiid without ever looking back. He is the best fit with the most upside. The injury is a worry, but the risk/reward there is off the chart.

Exum would be my next choice. Perimeter defense with excellent size and athleticism for a point guard. You can play him with IT or McLemore. You can also probably trade down a few slots in the draft as he is unlikely to go above third.

After that, it doesn't much matter to me. BPA.
 
Gary

Gary

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#67
#67
I take it you're not really interested in Wiggins? If the FO has any inkling that Rudy will opt out or not re-sign if he takes the money this year then I believe that Wiggins would have to be high on their list.
 
Hadlowe

Hadlowe

Starter
#68
#68
If Rudy's gone, then I go for Parker over Wiggins as Parker is the better scorer and could play some undersized 4 as a floor spacer for Cousins. It's very close between the two, though.
 
Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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#69
#69
I think Parker does everything better than Wiggins offensively, at least in the half court. Wiggins is a better defender, more athletic, and gets out on the break better. Parker's a better shooter, passer, ball-handler, and has a higher BB IQ. It's a really close one. I'd lean towards Parker because he seems to have that superstar personality/mentality. With Wiggins I'm less sure, though I do like him a lot too.
 
Chupacabra

Chupacabra

Starter
#70
#70
I kind of wish we'd stop posting in this thread. I'm sure it won't happen and I'm sure I'll be ridiculed for making this suggestion but we WILL NOT be picking in the top 3. I think I'd just rather read everyone's interesting posts in a more valid thread. I'm a jerk.
 
Spike

Spike

Subsidiary Intermediary
Staff member
#71
#71
You could just, you know, ignore the thread...
It'll close itself if we don't land the pick, but, if by the grace of Odin's Beard, we do, then we have a good starting point. I'm holding off until we find out, because at this point it is pure sausage, but considering the nature of TDOS, I don't mind reading along.
 
King Baller

King Baller

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#72
#72
Chupacabra said:
I kind of wish we'd stop posting in this thread. I'm sure it won't happen and I'm sure I'll be ridiculed for making this suggestion but we WILL NOT be picking in the top 3. I think I'd just rather read everyone's interesting posts in a more valid thread. I'm a jerk.
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I understand what you are saying. This is kind of like trading for Lebron. Except there is a chance, yes a small chance of landing a Top 3 pick:)
 
funkykingston

funkykingston

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Staff member
#75
#75
Gary said:
Never say never!

First try and got this..

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My favorite part of that scenario is the Kings landing Embiid with the third pick which means a bit less guaranteed money and significantly less pressure on both the team and Embiid since he isn't the #1 pick.

My second favorite part of that scenario is that the 76ers, who so obviously tanked their season, got bumped down to 4th.
 
Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

All-Star
#77
#77
Chupacabra said:
Why?
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Makes the decision a lot easier, and less pressure on the draft pick (and on PDA to get it right, but that's an afterthought as it's his job to do so). Maybe most importantly, it'd enable me not to go bat-crap crazy if Embiid was already gone, which is what'd happen if we passed on him.

Keep in mind I did say "almost". All things said and done, I'd still prefer to have the first pick, obviously!
 
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randymoss1881

Starter
#78
#78
Embiid is the pick whether or not Gay is resigned or not. He makes to much sense with DMC to pass up. Even if Parker/Wiggins turn out to be 25ppg scores I'd still take him with great defense a solid jump shot and post moves that guys like Dwight Howard wish they had. Embiid will score 10 point alone off of pick and roll, free throws and jump shots add in his post game and your looking at a dominate player. Also if we take him who does the other teams put on DMC? Guys like Griffin, Love, Aldridge, And Ibaka stand no chance vs DMC and will stand no chance vs a 7'1-250 center like with post moves.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#79
#79
randymoss1881 said:
Embiid is the pick whether or not Gay is resigned or not. He makes to much sense with DMC to pass up. Even if Parker/Wiggins turn out to be 25ppg scores I'd still take him with great defense a solid jump shot and post moves that guys like Dwight Howard wish they had. Embiid will score 10 point alone off of pick and roll, free throws and jump shots add in his post game and your looking at a dominate player. Also if we take him who does the other teams put on DMC? Guys like Griffin, Love, Aldridge, And Ibaka stand no chance vs DMC and will stand no chance vs a 7'1-250 center like with post moves.
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I think that's the real thing that is often overlooked in "twin towers" lineup suggestions: the key to making it work is that both guys are potent offensively. If one of them is a defensive specialist, then all the defense has to do is put their weaker defender/PF on him, and guard the offensive part of the pair with their best interior defender as normal. To get the full overwhelming/scary effect, you need two guys who you can throw the ball to. Doesn't mean that one of them isn't your first option, while the other is clearly 2nd. Just means the 2nd guy has to be able to abuse mismatches and weak defenders too. Do that, and there is your impossible situation for the defense. Then they are in a pickle. Noplace to hide a Blake or skinny little undersized guy.

For our purposes you don't actually need Embiid to be Hakeem reincarnated and average 23 a game. We just need him to average 15-17 efficiently punishing opposing PFs whenever that's the matchup. Then you go back the other way and Cuz averages 22-25. Meanwhile you dominate the glass and the interior. People say the game has changed yadda yadda. I'd love to see how the game has changed teams tried to handle that sort of two fisted inside assault. Its as strong a stylistic statement/matchup nightmare as any smallball run n chuck team ever has. Put Hakeem and healthy Sampson out there today as a pairing, and it would likely change the league again as teams scrambled to counter the nightly beatdowns. Embiid is more than what is needed to provide Boogie adequate support. But that's the point. That's how you get great, by exceeding requirements and heading off into special.
 
Entity

Entity

Hall of Famer
#80
#80
Yeah you take Embiid all day every day. Also there is no faith in Ben here for some reason. If Ben was in this draft he would go no lower than 5-6
 
Gary

Gary

All-Star
#81
#81
Dime Dropper said:
Makes the decision a lot easier, and less pressure on the draft pick (and on PDA to get it right, but that's an afterthought as it's his job to do so). Maybe most importantly, it'd enable me not to go bat-poopoo crazy if Embiid was already gone, which is what'd happen if we passed on him.

Keep in mind I did say "almost". All things said and done, I'd still prefer to have the first pick, obviously!
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Nah... 1/2/3 we take Embiid unless there is a switch in place.

We could do a deal with the 3rd team where we draft Wiggins for them and they draft Embiid for us. For instance, Orlando. They give us their second lottery pick and the #3 for the #1 pick (if both teams fall into those two spots) and as long as Embiid was available as the 3rd pick. We would of course have to make sure that whoever was second wasn't going to grab him though.
 
Gary

Gary

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#82
#82
Entity said:
Yeah you take Embiid all day every day. Also there is no faith in Ben here for some reason. If Ben was in this draft he would go no lower than 5-6
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No way... McLemore wouldn't go in the top 10 if he was in this draft. He might go lottery but no way he would be top 5 or 6. He's a SG who hasn't proven that he can shoot consistently. That's not a good m.o. to have.
 
Entity

Entity

Hall of Famer
#83
#83
Gary said:
No way... McLemore wouldn't go in the top 10 if he was in this draft. He might go lottery but no way he would be top 5 or 6. He's a SG who hasn't proven that he can shoot consistently. That's not a good m.o. to have.
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Correction. He hasn't proven IN THE NBA that he can shoot consistently. Just like everybody else in this draft. Everybody gets so hung up on comparing college stats to NBA stats that their opinion of players get dramatically skewed. This forum in particular has a real problem with that.
 
Gary

Gary

All-Star
#84
#84
Entity said:
Correction. He hasn't proven IN THE NBA that he can shoot consistently. Just like everybody else in this draft. Everybody gets so hung up on comparing college stats to NBA stats that their opinion of players get dramatically skewed. This forum in particular has a real problem with that.
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If you include his one year in the NBA then a lot of NBA teams would pass on him based on his shooting IN THE NBA.

If you don't include his 1st year in the NBA (meaning if he had stayed in school but you were to use his stats from frosh year) then he probably doesn't even go lottery.

He couldn't even go 5th or 6th in the WEAK draft he was in so what makes you think he could be top 5/6 now?
 
Entity

Entity

Hall of Famer
#90
#90
I will say this outside of Embiid I don't see anybody that greatly improves our current team. Now you take Rudy Gay out of the equation then you have to look at wiggins/Parker
 
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