Desert Island Music Album Draft 2013 - draft complete

Should we extend the draft to 25 picks?


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Among the big four of trash, Anthrax is a close second for me after Metallica. I've been going back and forth on which album to choose, but ultimately decided on this album because of the "goofy" feel to it. I think that I have enough heavy tunes to listen to on my island, so a bit of goofiness is needed.

For my 19th pick of the draft, I select:

Attack of the Killer B's - Anthrax (1991)

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pdxKingsFan

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Attack of the Killer B's is a great album but is it legal? Technically it is as it's name implies a compilation of B sides to album singles.
 

VF21

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Oops. The answer to this lies in the first sentence from Wiki:

Attack of the Killer B's is a compilation album of B-sides, covers and rarities by the thrash metal band Anthrax.
Since our rules specifically state that compilations are not allowed, this pick is disallowed. I've sent a PM to dukeswh.
 

VF21

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Okay, the ruling on Anthrax is under appeal. ;)

I've got to do some research and I'll get back to you. (I love this stuff. :D )
 

VF21

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Final decision:

After further review, the album "Attack of the Killer B's" in, in fact, a legitimate choice. While it is described as a compilation, it is a "compilation" of songs that were previously unreleased. As Wiki states, "The "B's" in the album's title refers to b-sides previously unreleased and compiled for a single release."

Since none of the songs were released previously and the album obviously is not the "greatest hit" type which most compilations usually are, I think it would be stretching the definition and use of the word "compilation" to an extreme length to rule the album out.

The appeal is granted and the previous decision reversed. Carry on.
 
Final decision:

After further review, the album "Attack of the Killer B's" in, in fact, a legitimate choice. While it is described as a compilation, it is a "compilation" of songs that were previously unreleased. As Wiki states, "The "B's" in the album's title refers to b-sides previously unreleased and compiled for a single release."

Since none of the songs were released previously and the album obviously is not the "greatest hit" type which most compilations usually are, I think it would be stretching the definition and use of the word "compilation" to an extreme length to rule the album out.

The appeal is granted and the previous decision reversed. Carry on.
 

Spike

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Final decision:

After further review, the album "Attack of the Killer B's" in, in fact, a legitimate choice. While it is described as a compilation, it is a "compilation" of songs that were previously unreleased. As Wiki states, "The "B's" in the album's title refers to b-sides previously unreleased and compiled for a single release."

Since none of the songs were released previously and the album obviously is not the "greatest hit" type which most compilations usually are, I think it would be stretching the definition and use of the word "compilation" to an extreme length to rule the album out.

The appeal is granted and the previous decision reversed. Carry on.
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This answer is the correct one. :D
 
With my 19th selection, I choose:

Jonny Lang - Lie to Me - 1997




Released a day before his 16th birthday, Lie to Me is a blues tour de force that launched Jonny Lang's touring career and inclusion in the higher blues circles. The album went multiplatinum and has sold millions of copies worldwide. Given the youth at recording, his level of music sophistication is remarkable, as he speaks to themes that endure throughout lifetimes.

Track List:

1. Lie to Me - 4:11
2. Darker Side - 5:07
3. Good Morning Little School Girl - 4:15
4. Still Wonder - 3:45
5. Matchbox - 3:29
6. Back for a Taste of Your Love - 3:32
7. A Quitter Never Wins - 5:56
8. Hit the Ground Running - 3:31
9. Rack 'Em Up - 4:07
10. When I Come to You - 4:58
11. There's Gotta Be a Change - 4:11
12. Missing Your Love - 3:53

More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie_to_Me_(album)
 
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I am taking another great album:
Barenaked Ladies - Gordon - 1992

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This is one of those albums that is just simply great. It transcends the Barenaked Ladies; it is just one of those magical albums. Great songs like "Brian Wilson", "Be My Yoko Ono", "Grade 8", "Hello City", and "Enid" are just seared into my soul. Love this album.

 
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Bricklayer

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I am taking another great album:
Barenaked Ladies - Gordon - 1992

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This is one of those albums that is just simply great. It transcends the Barenaked Ladies; it is just one of those magical albums. Great songs like "Brian Wilson", "Be My Yoko Ono", "Grade 8", "Hello City", and "Enid" are just seared into my soul. Love this album.

Favorite of an old friend of mine in law school. Her study music.
 
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with the ninth pick in the nineteenth round of the 2013 Desert Island Music Draft, i select...

Brand New - Daisy (09/22/09):



01 Vices
02 Bed
03 At the Bottom
04 Gasoline
05 You Stole
06 Be Gone
07 Sink
08 Bought a Bride
09 Daisy
10 In a Jar
11 Noro

Genre: alternative rock, post-hardcore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daisy_(Brand_New_album)


i'd been waiting for a band to truly inherit and inhabit the sound of Nirvana for a lotta years. the post-Nirvana rock music landscape of the mid-to-late 90's was rife with the kind of adult-alternative and power-pop sheen that hardwired sparkly, radio-ready choruses into the ears of the listener. it was all so inoffensive and sterile. nobody really took up the dirty, gritty, distortion-filled grunge and sludge that Nirvana left behind. that sound was effectively cleaned-up and streamlined by the major label system, so it was a rather shocking development for me in that waiting period to discover Brand New's The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me in 2006, over twelve years after Kurt Cobain ended the grunge movement with a shotgun shell. Devil and God may not have been an edifice constructed in honor of Nirvana, but it took its distortion-and-feedback cues and loudness dynamics straight outta Nirvana's playbook, while stripping away the vast majority of Brand New's previously clean-as-a-whistle emo-pop roots. it was among the most radical progressions i'd ever witnessed within a band's approach to making music, and Daisy, their 2009 mortar blast, is a perfection of that progression...

it is much more obviously inspired by Nirvana than Devil and God, but there are also shades of mid-90's Modest Mouse within Daisy's borders, a little Pavement, a little early Weezer, a little late-90's DC hardcore, and even a dash of turn-of-the-century post-hardcore. but Daisy always glances back at the hole Nirvana left behind with the clear intention of filling that wound. seriously, this f***er's LOUD. it's aggressive. it's abrasive. it's occasionally beautiful, but ultimately unrelenting. and, at just under 40 minutes, it's a very carefully-edited album experience. Daisy is, in my opinion, the better-late-than-never heir to what is, in my opinion, Nirvana's masterwork, the Steve Albini-produced In Utero (an equally loud, aggressive, abrasive, occasionally beautiful, but unrelenting album of about 40 minutes in length). there is a nostalgia present on Daisy, a looking back at the caustic guitar-based music of the 90's, but it also manages to sound fresh and exciting. i'd honestly pick Brand New's The Devil and God Are Raging Inside of Me as their best overall album, a "start here" for those who've never listened to them, but Daisy manages to push all of my buttons. it's a gnarled little creep of a record, and i love it...
 
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Bricklayer

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Alright. Time to trash up my list a little. To those who think its already trashy enough, bite me. :p

Come On Over - Shania Twain - 1997 (well, very end of, 1998 outside U.S.)


Pop country? Sure I suppose. I look at it mostly as a pop album. As a rule I am not a country fan, not liking the twang and having a real problem with all the silly poser hats. Wannabes. :p In any case, this album doesn't really represent any particular trend or theme in music I listen to. It's just a lot of fun in a pop sense and was obviously a massive international hit (over 40 million albums sold worldwide) that dominated airwaves in the late 90s and made Shania the first of the country crossover megastars. I think the way to describe it would be its a concoction (cooked up by famous rock producer/husband Mutt Lange) with a ton of charisma and sass that goes a good 10 quality songs deep -- and it also includes a couple of excellent ballads as well. Always nice to have a pretty girl singing a love song to you while marooned on a desert island.

Don't Be Stupid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19vl_D8ubEY
You're Still The One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZH-emehxA
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus

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With the two hundred ninety-ninth pick of the draft, Mr. Slim Citrus selects:






LL Cool J, Mama Said Knock You Out (1990)

The first of my "Wild Card" picks, I don't really have any personal anecdotes to share about this album, it's just a personal favorite. A solid album all the way through, with no real pancake until the very end. A slew of hip-hop classics, including the underrated "diss" track To da Break of Dawn, in which L goes after Ice-T, MC Hammer and long-time rival Kool Moe Dee, as a response to previous diss tracks directed at him. And, in case you need reminding, if you ever need a beat that you can front to, you needn't look any further than The Boomin' System.

Mama Said was a bounceback album, a step up both commercially and critically from his previous release. It peaked at Number Sixteen on the Billboard 200 (and Number One on Billboard's Hip-Hop/R&B chart), and was certified Double Platinum, selling over two million copies. It spawned four hit singles, including the Gold-certified title track, and the also Gold-certified Around the Way Girl, two songs which still get love on "Old School" hip-hop stations (cite: Wikipedia).
 
Reigning Sound - Time Bomb High School (2002)

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Top notch old school rock'n'roll revival featuring Greg Cartwright, one of my favourite songwriters ever, who as usual delivers a soulful performance. It was outdated by roughly 20 years (the beginning of the eighties was when the first wave of roots rock revival happened) when it came out and therefore never had the critical, let alone the commercial, success it deserved. Sit down, open a beer and give it a spin; if you love old school rock music you won't regret it.

 
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At our original 20 album length, I'd planned a pair of semi-quirky, personal picks to wrap up my roster and call it a draft.

Now that we've expanded, I've found myself in the cliched "Best Available" position, meaning I probably won't have a personal connection to my next several picks (an unofficial and unspoken rule I'd been trying to follow to this point, even in the loosest of definitions), but they're too celebrated to pass up at this point and I enjoy them enough to say "Sure, why not."

First up on the "Sure, why not." part of my draft:



Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins (1993)

I've never been a "fan" of the Pumpkins really, but I've always appreciated their music. Let's just say, they pass the radio volume test, meaning if one of their songs hits the radio, I usually turn it up a bit to hear better.

Siamese Dream came out when the Pumpkins were being hailed as "The Next Nirvana", which I find particularly funny considering Nirvana was still around at that time and had only really been well known themselves for a year or two.

It's also a strange tag in the sense that Siamese Dream has more in common with progressive rock and dreampop than punk and grunge. (That's according to Rolling Stone. If someone with more musical knowledge has issue with that assessment, take it up with them.) Even someone as ignorant as me can tell they sound decidedly different. The guy who mixed this album was chosen specifically because of his work on Loveless - an album I've grown to appreciate since Padrino picked it, (indirectly) explained it to me and introduced me to the Cocteau Twins and Treasure.

Less technically, I find Siamese Dream to be rather chill to listen to all the way through. While I likely never would have gotten around to picking it at our original 20 album length unless a lot of things went wrong for me, I'm glad it was still around for me during the "Sure, why not" stage.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_Dream
 
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Capt. Factorial

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Guns N' Roses - Use Your Illusion I (1991) (wiki link)



Despite the fact that Guns N' Roses' top-selling album has already been taken (with the #5 pick in the draft!), I think there's a lot of value in Use Your Illusion I. This is the album where I feel that Axl started to flex his chops as a classically-trained pianist - on this album particularly evident on the epic November Rain, with its prominent piano and lavish orchestral arrangement. It became evident with this album that Guns N' Roses was a bit more than just an everyday hard rock band. The two biggest songs on the album, Don't Cry and November Rain, both were released with elaborate videos, November Rain notable for including a full-length version of the 9+ minute song rather than an edited-down version. I can still remember sitting with my friends and watching MTV's 1992 top-100 video countdown on New Year's Eve and how hard we were pulling for November Rain to be #1...and we weren't disappointed. I don't remember ever having that much emotional investment in any other song - it was almost as if my favorite sports team had won a championship. And now, that song, along with the rest of the album, some melodic, some goofy, some hard-rockin', is on my island.

(link to November Rain - MTV's video of the year in 1992)

(link to Don't Cry)

(link to You Ain't The First)
 
Sorry for the delay. I was away from the interwebs for much of today. Without further ado, the 19th album coming to my island be:


It Means Everything -- Save Ferris (1997) http://www.allmusic.com/album/it-means-everything-mw0000027654
This is one of the albums that makes me happy for the extra rounds, as I'm not sure it would have made it off my list of alternates otherwise. As part of the late-90s ska revival, Save Ferris was as much a flash in the pan as the genre they were a part of, but this is a damn catchy album and one that's been a part of my regular rotation since it came out.


"Superspy":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkLHS8BCTQE
"SPAM": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka21UZUBgSY
ans, of course, "Come On, Eileen": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCzWPBR30Nk
 
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With the final selection of the 19th Round my next Pick is:

Huey Lewis and The News- Sports- 1983

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I have been going back and forth between a few picks and when "Heart of Rock and Roll" popped up on my pandora today the decision was made. I cannot believe this album has made it this far. Not too much of a write up for this one. There are so many good songs on this album. "heart and soul", "I want a new Drug" and "if this is it" just to name a few. Another album that takes me down memory lane :)
 

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This is one of the albums that makes me happy for the extra rounds, as I'm not sure it would have made it off my list of alternates otherwise...
So... if we were only going to twenty, you wouldn't have taken it at all but, because we're going to twenty-five, you took it nineteenth? I think I'm missing something.
 
With the first Selection of the 20th Round my Next Pick is:

Justin Timberlake- FutureSex/LoveSounds-2006

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In looking over my picks I have noticed I do not have that many modern albums. I have focused so much about the past I have forgotten of some of my more recent favorites. This albums has so many great songs. I can listen to every one. Since It is hard to choose just one favorite I have added the entire album playlist :) This album is going to get a lot of play on my island.

1. "FutureSex/LoveSound"
2. "SexyBack" (featuring Timbaland)
3. "Sexy Ladies/Let Me Talk to You (Prelude)"
4. "My Love" (featuring T.I.)
5. "LoveStoned/I Think She Knows (Interlude)"
6. "What Goes Around.../...Comes Around (Interlude)"
7. "Chop Me Up" (featuring Timbaland and Three 6 Mafia)
8. "Damn Girl" (featuring will.i.am)
9. "Summer Love/Set the Mood (Prelude)"
10. "Until the End of Time"
11. "Losing My Way"
12. "(Another Song) All Over Again"
 
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So... if we were only going to twenty, you wouldn't have taken it at all but, because we're going to twenty-five, you took it nineteenth? I think I'm missing something.
My shortlist isn't ranked or numbered. At the start of the draft I made a list of about 65 albums that were in contention and I've been picking from that list every time my turn comes along. At this point, I've still got about 30 of that original 65 or so that are available; I don't know if I'd have considered It Means Everything amongst the top two of what I've got left, but it's easily in the top seven so I went ahead and took it now while I'm still sorting out the other six.

Ultimately, everything on my list has been largely unthreatened (of the original 65 albums on my shortlist, only eleven have been taken by someone else), especially since I've been limiting myself to things that went undrafted last time, so the order in which I've picked the things on my list is almost completely strategy free.
 

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My shortlist isn't ranked or numbered. At the start of the draft I made a list of about 65 albums that were in contention and I've been picking from that list every time my turn comes along. At this point, I've still got about 30 of that original 65 or so that are available; I don't know if I'd have considered It Means Everything amongst the top two of what I've got left, but it's easily in the top seven so I went ahead and took it now while I'm still sorting out the other six.

Ultimately, everything on my list has been largely unthreatened (of the original 65 albums on my shortlist, only eleven have been taken by someone else), especially since I've been limiting myself to things that went undrafted last time, so the order in which I've picked the things on my list is almost completely strategy free.
Dartboard, aye.

I wasn't concerned with not duplicating any of my previous picks, but you can clearly tell that I didn't want my whole list to be a duplicate of my last draft. It wouldn't even have occurred to me to not take anything that anybody had taken from the last draft; to be perfectly honest, I don't think I actually like music that much... If I'd tried to make a list that excluded all 320 of those albums, I don't think I could have come up with ten, let alone twenty-five.

I only had eighteen "must haves" on my island, not counting picks that got swooped by someone else, of which there have been nine (Thriller, What's Going On, Discovery, Throwing Copper, Pieces of a Man, A Night at the Opera, Californication, Quality and Tragic Kingdom). I have about seven albums to decide from for my last six picks, so if any of those get taken, I could be in trouble.
 
And before I head off to beddy-bye, one more quick trip to the 90s. In the 20th round, I'm taking:


So Tonight That I Might See -- Mazzy Star (1993) http://www.allmusic.com/album/so-tonight-that-i-might-see-mw0000102852
Or, as my first year college roommate called it, "Please, Gadget, can we listen to something else for a change?" I was a few years late to Mazzy Star, but when I found them I got really into them. Really into Hope Sandoval, specifically, both for her voice and her completely crushable wounded 90s chick look, who in my most overly dramatic teenage moments I was convinced was having a private conversation directly with my soul. I listened to this album so frequently that I had to put it away for more than a decade. Not because I was sick of it, necessarily, but because I knew it too well; knew it to the point it couldn't grab me anymore. But just within the last three or four years I've begun listening to it again and have begun remembering all the reasons I thought it special the first time around. Now I can't imagine going that long without listening to it again.


"Mary of Silence": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrbgcpFUWN0
"Fade Into You": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImKY6TZEyrI
"Five String Serenade": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSSPoPYe26s
 
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More of a fictional collection. If these ___ albums were the only ones I owned, which one would I pull off the shelf right now?

I wasn't concerned with not duplicating any of my previous picks, but you can clearly tell that I didn't want my whole list to be a duplicate of my last draft. It wouldn't even have occurred to me to not take anything that anybody had taken from the last draft; to be perfectly honest, I don't think I actually like music that much... If I'd tried to make a list that excluded all 320 of those albums, I don't think I could have come up with ten, let alone twenty-five.
Which is why I would have opposed any rules to make my limitations everyone's limitations had they been suggested. I just did it this time around because of how many things I quickly thought of that had been completely ignored last time. I've done enough of these drafts without winning to easily forego strategy in favor of giving some love to the less popular kids.
 
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