Yahoo Rumor: Raymond Felton?

[JB_kings]

Gosh, if only there was a player available at #7 who would stick a dagger from anywhere on the court, open or not...

 

[SacKings7]

I doubt he does either, but I'm not so sure the Lakers care and his production was really down this year (and his impact low in the playoffs -- a definite liability defensively).

Course they might want to keep him around just for leadership.

Why would we want him then? I'm sure we can get a better player at roughly the same price if all we're looking for is leadership

 

[Warhawk]

Gosh, if only there was a player available at #7 who would stick a dagger from anywhere on the court, open or not...

Hmmm, I see what you did there.

 

[ESP47]

Whats wrong with Beno's outside shooting? Since he's been here he has shot

39%
31%
38%
36%

One blip his second year here, but otherwise he has shot pretty damn well from 3 point land. Not sure what else you guys want for an outside shooter. Why try and replace a 37% 3 pt shooter with a 40% shooter when we have guys like Tyreke and Donte hitting them at a 29% clip? It would be like drafting Demarcus Cousins II this year because he shoots 5% better from the FT line.

We need to better our weaknesses and if were talking about Beno then we need to talk Defense #1 and everything else falls in after that.

 

[Dr. Spaceman]

Whats wrong with Beno's outside shooting? Since he's been here he has shot

39%
31%
38%
36%

One blip his second year here, but otherwise he has shot pretty damn well from 3 point land. Not sure what else you guys want for an outside shooter. Why try and replace a 37% 3 pt shooter with a 40% shooter when we have guys like Tyreke and Donte hitting them at a 29% clip? It would be like drafting Demarcus Cousins II this year because he shoots 5% better from the FT line.

We need to better our weaknesses and if were talking about Beno then we need to talk Defense #1 and everything else falls in after that.

Maybe you should post his 3 point attempts along with those percentages to give the real picture. If you did, you'd see that he keeps those percentages that high by averaging all of 1 or 2 attempts from 3-point land a game. 3 attempts if he's feeling a little crazy that night. 3-point percentages aren't very useful when the sample size is so small.

Compare that to Jason Terry, who shot 36% last season on 351 attempts as opposed to Beno who averaged 36% on 182 attempts. Yep, that's about half. 1 hit a game isn't going to spread the floor for anyone. It's an area of need, just as much as defense on the perimeter is needed.

 

[Dreadnought]

Get Bobby Jackson back our of retirement.

 

[Superman]

Hmmm, I see what you did there.

Hamilton?

 

[est.1999]

Hamilton?

Jimmer!!

 

[Superman]

Beno's not that bad of a shooter, but the difference between a Fisher type and Beno is that Fisher made a living by spreading the court. Being a spot shooter is incredibly important. Beno much like Tyreke is more comfortable gathering himself and making a move rather than shooting the ball quickly. That transition time from gathering himself virtually eliminates himself from being a player perimeter defenders have to stick to and therefore allows them to cheat inside and help. He's a good off the dribble shooter but having nothing but off the dribble shooters is a terrible way to attempt to spread the floor for the very reason I mention above.

That plus while people may have forgotten because he's fallen so far in this area, Fisher was quite the defensive player back in the day.

Fisher was always smart defensively, but was always overrated, if you ask me. Keep in mind I watched a lot of Laker games in the early 2000s, and I saw the Lakers struggle with quick guards every year. At some point in every playoff series against a quick point guard, Kobe switched over to guard him instead of Fisher. He was never all that good. Smart, heady, tough ... but ultimately a liability defensively.

As for his shooting, the thing we need is outside shooting, which isn't Beno's strongest asset, but it's not necessarily lacking either. He slumped for a while last season, but got it going for a long stretch.

But the question being "who's the ideal guard to play alongside Tyreke," I don't see what's wrong with Beno. He's not strong defensively, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking about a guard who can co-exist with our ball dominant best player, and I think Beno did that just fine last year. For my money, he was our most consistent player last year, regardless who else was in the lineup. That's not saying much, but I do think he's kind of getting sold short.

 

[Superman]

Jimmer!!

Oh. Yeah, I'm still stuck on Hamilton.

 

[Kingsguy881]

Beno's not that bad of a shooter, but the difference between a Fisher type and Beno is that Fisher made a living by spreading the court. Being a spot shooter is incredibly important. Beno much like Tyreke is more comfortable gathering himself and making a move rather than shooting the ball quickly. That transition time from gathering himself virtually eliminates himself from being a player perimeter defenders have to stick to and therefore allows them to cheat inside and help. He's a good off the dribble shooter but having nothing but off the dribble shooters is a terrible way to attempt to spread the floor for the very reason I mention above.

That plus while people may have forgotten because he's fallen so far in this area, Fisher was quite the defensive player back in the day.

So basically, if Jimmer could play better defense, and his ball handling was up to snuff, he would be the perfect guard next to Evans?

 

[Kingsguy881]

Derek Fisher. Veteran guy for our youngs too.

Not happening. Dude is in LA for the care and treatment of his daughter. Not to mention I don't want one of the cheapest players and biggest floppers in the league on the Kings. We already had our flopping era. Pass.

 

[est.1999]

Although you can argue that he's in L.A. for the right care of his daughter I hear that L.A. is not at the top of the list when it comes to his daughter's condition. I hear NY is tops for that. Still don't understand why Utah would let him go for nothing.

 

[Telemachus]

So basically, if Jimmer could play better defense, and his ball handling was up to snuff, he would be the perfect guard next to Evans?

I don't think anyone will know how well Jimmer can play defense until he has been in the league for a couple years. He looked awful on defense, but was asked not to play any defense by his coach. As for his ball handling, I don't see why he gets knocked as a poor ball handler. He dribbled the ball well with either hand and didn't lose it all the much despite being doubled or tripled most of the time.

 

[kingsboi]

Felton? I mean he's a pretty good defender and all but other than that I'm not a big fan of his. Pass.

 

[SacTownKid]

So basically, if Jimmer could play better defense, and his ball handling was up to snuff, he would be the perfect guard next to Evans?

If Jimmer played Fisher level defense and had better ball handling he would easily be the #1 pick in this draft. Jimmer has way more talent, and in particular, scoring talent than Fisher ever did. Jimmer would be a great fit next to Tyreke, but for some of the same reasons why Thornton could be a great fit next to Tyreke as well. Don't know if the needs next to Tyreke are talent over skill set. I really hope the Kings give Evans and Thornton are real chance together.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Fisher-level defense is terrible.

Ideal fit w/ Evans is a taller, better-defensive Beno. Does such a thing exist?