Yahoo: Kings mulling over ex-Monarchs coach

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Jeremy posted this in the RSS thread. If this is true, please, someone just shoot me now and get it over with.
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There is an unorthodox but intriguing scenario under consideration within the Sacramento Kings' front office about replacing head coach Eric Musselman.


Here's the idea, according to a Western Conference official: Hire two-time Sacramento Monarchs WNBA championship coach John Whisenant, now the team's general manager, and bring along ex-Kings star and New Mexico State coach Reggie Theus as his top assistant and eventual successor.
Whisenant, considered a top defensive mind, had been under serious consideration a year ago before Musselman was hired. He's well-regarded by Petrie, and the owners, Joe and Gavin Maloof, who have known Whisenant since his days as an assistant coach at the owners' alma mater, the University of New Mexico.


Most of all, the hiring of Whisenant would be a way to groom Theus, the 13-year NBA veteran who has developed into a hot coaching commodity. After leaving Rick Pitino's staff at Louisville, Theus led New Mexico State to the NCAA tournament this season, his second as the Aggies' head coach.
New Mexico State went 25-9 and gave Texas a tough game in the opening round of the NCAAs. Theus played parts of five seasons for the Kings in the 1980s and spent one year as a broadcaster for the franchise after his retirement.


Another name that has been prominently mentioned with the Kings job, a league source said, is San Antonio Spurs assistant P.J. Carlesimo.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/nba_experts/post/Kings-mulling-over-ex-Monarchs-coach?urn=nba,30064
 
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Hoping this is just old recycled stuff posing as news. I will of course, just out of tradition, send off another nastygram to Kings offices. Don't seem to be working though. Might have to start sending roadkill to Geoff's wife or soemthign to get their attention. Perhaps get some compromising photos of the Maloofs' -- and come on, you KNOW they're out there -- and blackmail the franchise out of stupidity.
 
I posted recently suggesting that Vlade apprentice for a year under Rudy T; I think this is my plan's evil twin.

In my plan, a former Kings player was apprenticed by one of the most accomplished of all living NBA coaches. Theus coaches at NMSU, Whisenant's alma mater, and played in the NBA. Whisenant coached at UNM; did he even play in college? What Theus needs to learn about is coaching in the NBA, something which Whisenant can't teach him.

Sounds like a winner. ;)
 
honestly how many of you guys know how John Whisenant will do as an NBA coach? just because he coached in the WNBA means he cant coach an NBA team?
 
///M3/// said:
honestly how many of you guys know how John Whisenant will do as an NBA coach? just because he coached in the WNBA means he cant coach an NBA team?
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He might be able to learn to be a great NBA coach, for all I know. He has done well coaching various other sorts of teams, and he might be fine one day.

But as of right now, he has zero experience of any kind in the NBA. No playing, no assistant coaching, nothing whatsoever. So he might make a dandy student, but I don't consider him qualified to be a teacher.
 
///M3/// said:
honestly how many of you guys know how John Whisenant will do as an NBA coach? just because he coached in the WNBA means he cant coach an NBA team?
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Yep.

It was an idiotic consideration by a pair of idiotic wannabes last year, it has grown no less idiotic in the interim.

Coaching int eh WNBA is not necessarily a disqualifier. Having your coaching in the WNBA being the PINNACLE of your qualification most certainly is. Odds of respect = zero. Odds of having a clue = zero. Odds of being in 100% over your head = well, 100%. We would be a joke. He would be a joke. And the players would treat him as such.

If you longshotted a WNBA coach like Michael Cooper or Bill Laimbeer, they at least could dangle rings, NBA rings, in the faces of their players. What's Whiz going to dangle? His WNBA ring? His son's AAU trophy? He's a nobody in the NBA. That's deadly. We just got done seeing what happens when a coach does not have his players' respect. To repeat the idiocy....only in Maloofland could they be that dense.
 
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I may be the only one that thinks this way, but I really wouldn't mind Whiz as coach. I think the whole WNBA thing is completely ignorant and unfair sometimes. He doesn't have NBA experience, but so what! Like things can get any worse.
 
And just when you see the light at the end of the tunnel and think that the Maloofs have learnt their lesson, they come up with this crap.

I think they are determined to run this franchise into the ground and make them the laughing stock of the league for years to come. This is not NBA Live 2007. This is serious stuff!!!! Try treating it as such FFS :mad:
 
SacTownKid said:
I may be the only one that thinks this way, but I really wouldn't mind Whiz as coach. I think the whole WNBA thing is completely ignorant and unfair sometimes. He doesn't have NBA experience, but so what! Like things can get any worse.
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They can get worse and even if they can't isn't the whole point about getting better and as quickly as possible rather than being constant in the mediocrity which is exactly where we are heading if this sort of appointment takes place.

I can swallow the idea of having a prospect being mentored for a season or two and groomed to take over. BUt have him mentored by an NBA legend. Someone who has been there and done it as a coach or someone who has a reputation as a good coach in the NBA. To get a novice to be groomed by a novice is a recepie for a disaster.
 
SacTownKid said:
I may be the only one that thinks this way, but I really wouldn't mind Whiz as coach. I think the whole WNBA thing is completely ignorant and unfair sometimes. He doesn't have NBA experience, but so what! Like things can get any worse.
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Hell yes they can.

If this is true, somebody shoot me and donate my organs to the "I Hate the Kings FO" fund
 
SacTownKid said:
I may be the only one that thinks this way, but I really wouldn't mind Whiz as coach. I think the whole WNBA thing is completely ignorant and unfair sometimes. He doesn't have NBA experience, but so what! Like things can get any worse.
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In other situations I might agree, but this franchise cannot afford to make a mistake with an inexperienced NBA coach again. They have to make every effort to bring someone in with some experience and NBA-tested credibility if they expect to maintain what little trust they have with the fans, and more importantly, the players.
 
Thinking through this, the first impression I'm getting is that one of the Maloofs is getting too big-mouthed again. Let's review the situation: 1) Petrie is in Europe. I doubt he'd take time to be interviewed by some random reporter from Yahoo. 2) It was the Maloof's idea in the first place to prop up Whisenant. Maybe this is just one random brainstorm from one of the Maloofs, and some reporter is taking it too far. At least I hope.
 
SacTownKid said:
I may be the only one that thinks this way, but I really wouldn't mind Whiz as coach. I think the whole WNBA thing is completely ignorant and unfair sometimes. He doesn't have NBA experience, but so what! Like things can get any worse.
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Um...yes they can get worse.

You can easily take a one year downturn and turn it into the start of another miserable wallowing slide into laughingstockdom.
 
Bricklayer said:
Yep.

It was an idiotic consideration by a pair of idiotic wannabes last year, it has grown no less idiotic in the interim.

Coaching int eh WNBA is not necessarily a disqualifier. Having your coaching in the WNBA being the PINNACLE of your qualification most certainly is.
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Why is that? He did get a ring with a great defensive team. We dont know how his ability to coach will transfer to the NBA but that we doesnt mean hes gonna suck.

the Odds of respect = zero. Odds of having a clue = zero. Odds of being in 100% over your head = well, 100%. We would be a joke. He would be a joke. And the players would treat him as such.
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All this is just your opinions.

If you longshotted a WNBA coach like Michael Cooper or Bill Laimbeer, they at least could dangel rings, NBA rings, int he faces of their players. What's Muss going to dangle? His WNBA ring? His son's AAU trophy. He's a nobody in the NBA. That's deadly. We just got done seeing what happens when a coach does not have his players' respect. To repeat the idiocy....only in Maloofland could they be that dense.
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Again we dont know how Whisenant will do in the NBA. To come to conclusion like this is "idiotic".

All in all, you only based on his WNBA coach status as the reason why he wont do good in the NBA, he wont have a clue of what to do, and the players wont respect him. Thats unfair like someone else said. Im not saying he will do good in the NBA, just saying its unfair to judge him base on the WNBA coaching status.
 
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Hah, I saw this coming. The Maloofs wanted to hire Whiz last year, and they see Musselman's failure as a sign they should've listened to their gut instinct.

They haven't learned from this season. They still think that a coach can turn this team of defensively handicapped players into a group of goalies.
 
///M3/// said:
Why is that? He did get a ring with a great defensive team. We dont know how his ability to coach will transfer to the NBA but that we doesnt mean hes gonna suck.

All this is just your opinions.

Again we dont know how Whisenant will do in the NBA. To come to conclusion like this is "idiotic".

All in all, you only based on his WNBA coach status as the reason why he wont do good in the NBA, he wont have a clue of what to do, and the players wont respect him. Thats unfair like someone else said.
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Trust me on this kid -- I've been watching the NBA for 25 years. "Unfair" is irrelevant. The way things are are all that matters.

And in this case whether Whiz could coach, or could have coached in the NBA if his career had followed a different path is irrelevant. The fact is he did not, has accumulated exactly zero NBA "respect" points, and so the odds are extraordinarily high that he will never even be given a chance by the extraordinarily rich and powerful players of the NBA. His regime would be in trouble from the instant he stepped onto the basketball court, much moreso than even Muss who could at least walk the walk until midway through training camp. And delicate as eggs. At the first sign of adversity there is absolutely no reason, none, for any NBA player to stay onboard the sinking Whiz ship.

This is about the NBA. Not basketball in general. Not equal rights. Not nepotism. This is about the NBA. Either you get it and are part of the club, or you don't. Great college coaches enter the NBA only to fall flat on their faces all the time. And they don't bear nearly the stigma an old geezer from the WNBA would. And one who only got the job by brownnosing to boot.
 
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Time to put in my two cents on about John Whisenant as a possible coach for the Kings. I think Whisenant is a solid coach in the game of basketball, but to coach at the NBA level is a different beast in itself. I think he is better fit in the Monarchs organization than to be the coach of the Sacramento Kings. Here are my reasons for that assessment.

1. Whisenant is an established man in the Monarchs organization. He was the coach for a few years and won a championship in 2005 (not two WNBA championships, even though it would have been nice to win the title last season) and has been in the front office before, during, and after coaching the team. If he goes to coach the Kings, then I think it will hurt both the Monarchs and the Kings in the long term.

2. Ask Michael Cooper about his experience at the NBA level. While Cooper was an assistant coach in Denver, I think it a different game between the WNBA and the NBA. Cooper was a successful coach at the WNBA and won two championships as a coach.

Overall, I see this glaring thing. I think it is easier to coach in the WNBA than in the NBA. The players will listen to the coach more in the WNBA. I see the players in the WNBA wanting to get better. In the NBA, the coach can easily be ignored because the players in the NBA make more money than the coach. It's sad, but true.

In closing, I think the Kings need a coach with NBA experience instead of someone without the experience.
 
Insomniacal Fan said:
Hah, I saw this coming. The Maloofs wanted to hire Whiz last year, and they see Musselman's failure as a sign they should've listened to their gut instinct.
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That is the scary part of the report -- that was always the worst case scenario in case of the Muss firing. And you may be right. Be a real irony if this disaster actually led to a further weakening of Geoff's position as the Maloof egos went truly rampant, rather than the other way around.
 
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This actually sounds like a pretty good hollywood sport-movie idea. Remember that one movie with Whoopi Goldberg as the Knicks' coach? :P
 
Double-K said:
This actually sounds like a pretty good hollywood sport-movie idea. Remember that one movie with Whoopi Goldberg as the Knicks' coach? :P
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We'd be better off with Whoopi; at least then people would come out to see if the bear could actually waltz, so to speak.
 
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