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Yahoo: Kings mulling over ex-Monarchs coach
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ReinadelosReys
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I know, but the writer apparently does not.
Speaking of respect. A mod like you have a lot of respect while speaking to other.
This whole no NBA experience, no respect thing is stupid. Like NikateeN said, if youre a bad coach you'll earn no respect, if your a good coach you'll earn that respect.
For what reason would the players lose respect for him?
Double-K
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Hence it's a good idea for Hollywood sport-movie. They can even go with "Based on a true story".
Bricklayer
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1) Earned, not given.
2) Don't tell me how to mod.
3) Don't play passive aggressive.
4) Wasn't even particularly intended as an insult. You will know when I decide to insult you. I have a gift.
You can think it is as stupid as you want to -- does not change the reality -- it is the way it is. And once you realize the way things are, only a fool continues pissing into the wind. The Maloofs may just be those fools with the big wet spots on the front of their pants.
Actually I think the Maloofs are really just lazy and too "clever" for themselves. Unwilling to learn their business and do the hard work to create the winner, and always trying to prove a point and outsmart the system by doing it their way. More glory in it that way. Glorious failure mind you.
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Padrino
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wow...
unbelievable...
okay...so, how about we skip all the "whiz or no whiz" talk this offseason? huh? sound good to everybody? cuz i've got a better plan. let's just revive all the old threads from last offseason...read 'em a few times each...and call it a day. i don't know if i can handle another TDOS with "the whiz" being the hot topic of conversation.
GP better pull off some magic in the draft...cuz i'm already unhappy about the way this offseason is turning out. 10th pick at best if we miss out on the top 3?
whiz again? you've got to be kidding me. i'd take larry brown over whisenant...and i'm as opposed to larry brown's coaching style as anybody. at least he'd have the decency to sabotage the franchise into a stellar draft pick in '08. with whiz...who the eff knows? we'll suck...but the degree to which we will suck is largely in question...so gimme somebody with either a) proven nba winning potential or b) proven nba losing potential.
unbelievable...
okay...so, how about we skip all the "whiz or no whiz" talk this offseason? huh? sound good to everybody? cuz i've got a better plan. let's just revive all the old threads from last offseason...read 'em a few times each...and call it a day. i don't know if i can handle another TDOS with "the whiz" being the hot topic of conversation.
GP better pull off some magic in the draft...cuz i'm already unhappy about the way this offseason is turning out. 10th pick at best if we miss out on the top 3?
whiz again? you've got to be kidding me. i'd take larry brown over whisenant...and i'm as opposed to larry brown's coaching style as anybody. at least he'd have the decency to sabotage the franchise into a stellar draft pick in '08. with whiz...who the eff knows? we'll suck...but the degree to which we will suck is largely in question...so gimme somebody with either a) proven nba winning potential or b) proven nba losing potential.
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Western Conference official and league source? Bullcrap...
I think this is nothing more than one person's attempt to make something out of totally nothing.
I'm not going to lose any sleep over this whatsoever.
GoGoGadget
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Sweet Gumby, I hope so.
Calling me a "kid" is like talking down on me when I could be older than you. I find that disrespecting, intended or not. Put this aside and not talk about it anymore.
That is not reality. That is entirely your own opinions. If Whisenant is hired as the Kings coach, some players might respect him as a coach, some might not. Thats entirely on them. But as the season progress, if hes a good coach he'll get those players respect. To disqualified him because of no NBA experience is wrong.
There is a lesson to be learned from the last year under Muss. When your players don't respect you, your style, or your coaching ability - you are worthless. You can't walk into an NBA locker room and flash a WNBA championship ring and expect to get respect. It has nothing to do with his knowledge and experience - which by the way is fairly slim to begin with. And having Theus waiting in the wings would just undercut Whiz from day 1. It's not like Theus would be learning the ropes from some NBA vet coach since Whiz has zero NBA experience. If they want to groom Reggie for the job, get him a veteran NBA coach as a mentor.
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Not when there are candidates out there with tested NBA experience.
This is like arguing about whether the Hornets will beat the Kings in the conference finals.
I am almost positive there is NO substance to this silly rumor whatsoever. There is at least one factual error in the initial article, based on what I've been told privately.
I am almost positive there is NO substance to this silly rumor whatsoever. There is at least one factual error in the initial article, based on what I've been told privately.
I agreed. I never said we should hire Whisenant as coach and I know there are much better candidates out there. I just dont think we should judge him because hes an WNBA coach and never been in the NBA.
Hornets in 6?
Only if they consider New Orleans as their home court. If they play at OKC, we're toast in 4...
Bricklayer
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And again, I've let you do your own pissing in the wind while keeping it relatively general, but no, you are simply flat out mistaken. What is "not reality" is this wonderful egalitarian world you WANT to exist in the NBA. Does not work that way. Never has worked that way. And I defy you to come up with even one example in the modern history of the NBA to prove I am wrong. Do not bother searching.
Does not matter how much you THINK it should be that way, does not matter how "unfair" it is, it is just what it is. And my opinion of what it is, of "reality", is basically backed up by the entire history of the league. And those trends have strengthened, not weakened, as the players have gotten richer, more powerful, more accomplished. If there ever was a time back in the distant misty past when you could pull a cheap dog and pony trick like this, it ain't now. I do not make these rules. This is just the business.
There is a long list of qualified, and not so qualified NBA personnel to choose form on this one, Whiz is not even on the list. His lone qualification remains that he is the family bootlicker. There is not another team in the NBA that would remotely consider him for their position, and there is a reason for that.
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After the whoe Muss mess we need a coach with proven NBA experience coaching, if not being a head coach, at least a assistant. I don't understand why the Maloofs keep playing it safe by promoting a coach that works with them and is part of the Maloof family already but was coaching the women's team.
I hate to say this because people really don't like the guy, but I would rather have Nelson be our coach. He was raving about what a great team/franchise we had/have and how he wanted to be the head coach. I heard that the Maloofs has some history with Nelson as well.
After the the firing of the best coach we ever had, we get a BS artist, but he at least was young, had a dad who was a legend, and looked to be a good young basketball genius...man did that turn out badly!!! I'm not wavering from thinking that Muss put things in motion starting with the DUI and his horrible season to get paid $7M for 1 years work. He won the lottery at our team's expense.
Does anyone have an idea how strong or weak next year's draft will be?
Looks like we will be a lottery team for quite some time....oh well it will not hurt so bad when the team is relocated South somewhere due to the bone headed ideas of our owners....yes it will, sorry
Next year's will be strong for guards, especially PGs. Probably not the match of this year's, though.
An unnamed league official probably said, "They should hire Whiz now, [insert inappropriate joke]." Joke was removed to make for a better read.
FTR, I say why the **** not? If this team is truly rebuilding, dumping contracts/players, why not go with Whiz? You're looking at a team with very little ego/experience, and someone who will work his butt off because there will be the WBNA jokes...until he beats them. [Note: "beating them" may not happen.]
Rebuilds are done in more than one year, right? There you go. Rebuild with Whiz, improve with Theus. Sounds crazy enough to work. All we need is an orangutan on the sidelines and a high speed chase.
FTR, I say why the **** not? If this team is truly rebuilding, dumping contracts/players, why not go with Whiz? You're looking at a team with very little ego/experience, and someone who will work his butt off because there will be the WBNA jokes...until he beats them. [Note: "beating them" may not happen.]
Rebuilds are done in more than one year, right? There you go. Rebuild with Whiz, improve with Theus. Sounds crazy enough to work. All we need is an orangutan on the sidelines and a high speed chase.
nbrans
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I seriously can't believe some people have a "enh, couldn't be worse than this season" mentality. To take a page from piksi, IT COULD GET WORSE. The best case scenario in the offseason is that Geoff assembles a young, athletic, and raw lineup that hopefully has some real potential. In other words, they're not going to be good. Best case scenario next year is flashes of potential and another losing season, and then another dip into the lottery. But there's a real risk when you dip into the lottery of staying there permanently.
With a young lineup like that, development, lack of drama, and the creation of some chemistry is key if you have any hope of rising from the ashes. To do that, you need a real coach. Not someone whose high point in his career is a WNBA title, not a guy whose high point in his career is almost kinda sorta giving Texas a nice game before bowing out in the first round of the NCAA tournament. You need a real coach who is going to be a mentor, develop young talent, and hoepfully spark the beginnings of a resurgence.
It could get a wholllllle lot worse, people. I lived through 85-98, not only do I want those 13 years of my life back, I'm not really keen on the idea of 13 years going by until the Kings are good again.
With a young lineup like that, development, lack of drama, and the creation of some chemistry is key if you have any hope of rising from the ashes. To do that, you need a real coach. Not someone whose high point in his career is a WNBA title, not a guy whose high point in his career is almost kinda sorta giving Texas a nice game before bowing out in the first round of the NCAA tournament. You need a real coach who is going to be a mentor, develop young talent, and hoepfully spark the beginnings of a resurgence.
It could get a wholllllle lot worse, people. I lived through 85-98, not only do I want those 13 years of my life back, I'm not really keen on the idea of 13 years going by until the Kings are good again.
Vlade4GM
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To me it's disconcerning because it might mean the Maloofs still can't keep their stinking paws out of the basketball decisions. I think this offseason Petrie finally gets what he needs to do and if the Maloofs will let him do it he can do a good job. They just need to stay the F out of it, they're not basketball minds despite how much they'd like to believe they are.
This has got me thinking... the universal standard for a coach is his W-L record. Even assuming a minor miracle or two over the summer and very shrewd coaching afterwards, we're not going to be winning a ton of games next year. Best possible case for us right now would be to have 3 each of Kevin, Ronnie, Cisco and Justin on the roster, and the $10M budget that would go with that. But that's not reality, reality is that, doing things right, it's still probably going to take 3-4 years, which might make a lot of coaches go ballistic. Maybe it's a mistake to think about trying to talk some primadonna coach into ruining his precious W-L record with a rebuild, when what we really want is a guy who can patiently teach kids, keep their morale up while they're losing, and neutralize bad locker room influences.
In business, there are manager whose whole gig is taking over sickly old companies and doing the hard stuff which will give them the potential to be healthy again in the future. The coaching equivalent would have a pretty abysmal W-L record, but should be very much in demand despite that.
Has the NBA failed to evolve in ways that other businesses have? Are there no coaches whose whole gig is doing rebuilds?
nbrans
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^Well, Larry Brown is the guy who had the reputation of rebuilding teams, but his ego has outstripped whatever abilities he once had to take a team over the hump.
I think the key is getting a good, strong, respected coach in place and then letting the team grow together, sort of like what the Kings did with Adelman. Musselman wasn't that guy, hopefully they find the right coach this offseason.
I think the key is getting a good, strong, respected coach in place and then letting the team grow together, sort of like what the Kings did with Adelman. Musselman wasn't that guy, hopefully they find the right coach this offseason.
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