WTF - No Pins???

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Well, that's kind of why the rest of us mere mortal Kings fans are a little perturbed.

Ok I tagged/quoted you because in a way your the level headed voice of reason. This whole thread reminds me of how people think their having a bad day because they over slept their alarm, spilled their coffee, got a traffic ticket, etc. Meanwhile in Syria and Iraq people are being blown up, shot, and beheaded. When you put things into perspective all a sudden your day doesn't look so bad.

I do realize I'm of a generation that looks at collecting "pins" as pretty un cool, weird and old fashioned. BUT .... I do get that people get used to certain things and change is hard for all of us. Your used to something happening, you have expectations, then it doesn't happen. Its a bummer...

HOWEVER... lol! Its pretty nice having a team in Sacramento isn't it? LOL! jeez guys of all the things to be complaining about. Give the new owners and management a break! Im sure it wasn't malicious... Im i little bummed anyone would feel the need to write a scathing letter about this... When just writing a heartfelt suggestion is clearly the better route. The new owners should be free to start their own new traditions. From what I saw they for the most part DID realize that these "pins" were important and did make an effort to keep it going. Just not on the scale or in the fashion you were used to.

Everything gonna be ok guys. Just be nice about it and don't let this upset you. At least theres a KINGS team still here.
 
Frankly I go to the games to cheer the team on. put all the money towards a better team and I'm fine not getting a pin or a program. Plus it's creates less waste.
 
Ok I tagged/quoted you because in a way your the level headed voice of reason. This whole thread reminds me of how people think their having a bad day because they over slept their alarm, spilled their coffee, got a traffic ticket, etc. Meanwhile in Syria and Iraq people are being blown up, shot, and beheaded. When you put things into perspective all a sudden your day doesn't look so bad.

I do realize I'm of a generation that looks at collecting "pins" as pretty un cool, weird and old fashioned. BUT .... I do get that people get used to certain things and change is hard for all of us. Your used to something happening, you have expectations, then it doesn't happen. Its a bummer...

HOWEVER... lol! Its pretty nice having a team in Sacramento isn't it? LOL! jeez guys of all the things to be complaining about. Give the new owners and management a break! Im sure it wasn't malicious... Im i little bummed anyone would feel the need to write a scathing letter about this... When just writing a heartfelt suggestion is clearly the better route. The new owners should be free to start their own new traditions. From what I saw they for the most part DID realize that these "pins" were important and did make an effort to keep it going. Just not on the scale or in the fashion you were used to.

Everything gonna be ok guys. Just be nice about it and don't let this upset you. At least theres a KINGS team still here.

Pardon me but just who the hell are you and where did you come from, and come to think of it, why?

VF21, I apologize to you on behalf of the poster above.


I am a season ticket holder and did not attend opening night and wondered why I got a pin for this year in the mail (along with credit card thing to wear around my neck to allow me to get in the game conviently without a ticket).

I absolutely agree with your reaction, VF21, and applaud you for messaging Granger.

My beefs are not limited to the break in the pin tradition(and I am not a pin collector though I never throw anything away and probably have the 15 or so opening night pins I have received at the door in my 30 years of season ticket hood). Some of my others are:

Game programs: single sheet fold over what they call programs. Ty are useless for the purposes I used them for for all the 25 years or so that they existed. This change was a poor choice made by the Maloof regime and carried on and worsened by the Ranadive regime. They can cut out the half-time stst sheet and give me the old program.

On line roster from Kings web site: give me back the format they had until the last yer or two. A list of players and columns showing jersey number, position, heighth, weight, date of birth, years in the league, and college or country of origin in one single page. I suspect this was dictated by the league but Ranadive should overcome.

Plastic cards and related computer ap instead of tickets: there might have some conveniences and efficiencies involved but they are overwhelmed by the mass and varieties of inconveniences.

The computer system to manage your season tickets: Again, some conveniences an d efficiencies hidden by a greater mass of inconveniences compounded for those like me whose eyesight isn't what it was during my first 75 good years.

The assumption that everyone has computers both stationary and mobile and that the have the Internet and printers and the knowledge, aptitude and interest to use them. It's one thing to acknowledge the prevalence, the usefulness, and the popularity of the mobile computer but it is totally a different thing to assume that all your hoped for customers are willing and able to go wyth on this.

I'm sure if I had anther 15 minutes as well as the patience to do so I could come up with equally cogent thoughts but out of sympathy for anyone who read through ths whatever, I now retire, sigh.
 
Pardon me but just who the hell are you and where did you come from, and come to think of it, why?

VF21, I apologize to you on behalf of the poster above.


I am a season ticket holder and did not attend opening night and wondered why I got a pin for this year in the mail (along with credit card thing to wear around my neck to allow me to get in the game conviently without a ticket).

I absolutely agree with your reaction, VF21, and applaud you for messaging Granger.

My beefs are not limited to the break in the pin tradition(and I am not a pin collector though I never throw anything away and probably have the 15 or so opening night pins I have received at the door in my 30 years of season ticket hood). Some of my others are:

Game programs: single sheet fold over what they call programs. Ty are useless for the purposes I used them for for all the 25 years or so that they existed. This change was a poor choice made by the Maloof regime and carried on and worsened by the Ranadive regime. They can cut out the half-time stst sheet and give me the old program.

On line roster from Kings web site: give me back the format they had until the last yer or two. A list of players and columns showing jersey number, position, heighth, weight, date of birth, years in the league, and college or country of origin in one single page. I suspect this was dictated by the league but Ranadive should overcome.

Plastic cards and related computer ap instead of tickets: there might have some conveniences and efficiencies involved but they are overwhelmed by the mass and varieties of inconveniences.

The computer system to manage your season tickets: Again, some conveniences an d efficiencies hidden by a greater mass of inconveniences compounded for those like me whose eyesight isn't what it was during my first 75 good years.

The assumption that everyone has computers both stationary and mobile and that the have the Internet and printers and the knowledge, aptitude and interest to use them. It's one thing to acknowledge the prevalence, the usefulness, and the popularity of the mobile computer but it is totally a different thing to assume that all your hoped for customers are willing and able to go wyth on this.

I'm sure if I had anther 15 minutes as well as the patience to do so I could come up with equally cogent thoughts but out of sympathy for anyone who read through ths whatever, I now retire, sigh.

Are you serious about everything you just wrote? Have you ever considered that maybe you have OCD? LOL! What in the world? Anything else you wanna shake your cane at? the music in the Arena is too loud? the new intro with the floor projection is too much for your eyes? Pesky credit cards? that darn inter web! whats a google?

ITS A BASKETBALL GAME!!!! watch the damn game! or have a mental breakdown over the bobble heads being discontinued... THIS CURRENT OWNERSHIP GROUP SAVED THIS TEAM! this whole thread seems a bit much for me. Save your energy for some real issues. Or maybe save it for yelling at the neighborhood kids to GET OFF YOUR LAWN!!!
 
Are you serious about everything you just wrote? Have you ever considered that maybe you have OCD? LOL! What in the world? Anything else you wanna shake your cane at? the music in the Arena is too loud? the new intro with the floor projection is too much for your eyes? Pesky credit cards? that darn inter web! whats a google?

ITS A BASKETBALL GAME!!!! watch the damn game! or have a mental breakdown over the bobble heads being discontinued... THIS CURRENT OWNERSHIP GROUP SAVED THIS TEAM! this whole thread seems a bit much for me. Save your energy for some real issues. Or maybe save it for yelling at the neighborhood kids to GET OFF YOUR LAWN!!!

Yes I did. Don't you think there is room in the world for OCDers or whatever? Do our great saviors get a pass on criticism? Hell no.

Thanks for reading my post. I only wish you took it more seriously. I was quite pleased at having provided that post. My four children and grandson are very effective in maintaining my perspective and sanity. Thanks for your concern. PS: Cudos to my wife as well.
 
Pardon me but just who the hell are you and where did you come from, and come to think of it, why?

VF21, I apologize to you on behalf of the poster above.


I am a season ticket holder and did not attend opening night and wondered why I got a pin for this year in the mail (along with credit card thing to wear around my neck to allow me to get in the game conviently without a ticket).

I absolutely agree with your reaction, VF21, and applaud you for messaging Granger.

My beefs are not limited to the break in the pin tradition(and I am not a pin collector though I never throw anything away and probably have the 15 or so opening night pins I have received at the door in my 30 years of season ticket hood). Some of my others are:

Game programs: single sheet fold over what they call programs. Ty are useless for the purposes I used them for for all the 25 years or so that they existed. This change was a poor choice made by the Maloof regime and carried on and worsened by the Ranadive regime. They can cut out the half-time stst sheet and give me the old program.

On line roster from Kings web site: give me back the format they had until the last yer or two. A list of players and columns showing jersey number, position, heighth, weight, date of birth, years in the league, and college or country of origin in one single page. I suspect this was dictated by the league but Ranadive should overcome.

Plastic cards and related computer ap instead of tickets: there might have some conveniences and efficiencies involved but they are overwhelmed by the mass and varieties of inconveniences.

The computer system to manage your season tickets: Again, some conveniences an d efficiencies hidden by a greater mass of inconveniences compounded for those like me whose eyesight isn't what it was during my first 75 good years.

The assumption that everyone has computers both stationary and mobile and that the have the Internet and printers and the knowledge, aptitude and interest to use them. It's one thing to acknowledge the prevalence, the usefulness, and the popularity of the mobile computer but it is totally a different thing to assume that all your hoped for customers are willing and able to go wyth on this.

I'm sure if I had anther 15 minutes as well as the patience to do so I could come up with equally cogent thoughts but out of sympathy for anyone who read through ths whatever, I now retire, sigh.

This was fine. Bravo. It is a tad weird that the organization thinks everyone is tech savvy and young. I'm a basketball fan first and foremost.
 
Are you serious about everything you just wrote? Have you ever considered that maybe you have OCD? LOL! What in the world? Anything else you wanna shake your cane at? the music in the Arena is too loud? the new intro with the floor projection is too much for your eyes? Pesky credit cards? that darn inter web! whats a google?

ITS A BASKETBALL GAME!!!! watch the damn game! or have a mental breakdown over the bobble heads being discontinued... THIS CURRENT OWNERSHIP GROUP SAVED THIS TEAM! this whole thread seems a bit much for me. Save your energy for some real issues. Or maybe save it for yelling at the neighborhood kids to GET OFF YOUR LAWN!!!

Amazingly rude.
 
It's kind of silly for people to paint the picture that those who use their cell phones for stats are zombies not watching the game or something. It literally takes 10 seconds to find the page and then from there it takes the same amount of time to look down at the digital page on your phone as it would a paper program. While it would be nice if they had a limited run of paper programs for the small minority of those who aren't capable of viewing the stats on the phone, it's understandable for them to cater to the majority.

Yeah, it's a shame that they don't give the opening night pins out for free to everybody anymore, but is it a reason to scream and shout that you will never attend another Kings game? Seems like kind of an irrational reaction. I (and most people) go to games to support the team, be in a fantastic atmosphere surrounded with like-minded fans, and of course to watch the game. If you really want the pin I'm sure you could purchase one from a season ticket holder for the right price. Or start a new collection of tactile mementos.

Sorry ownership broke your pin streak... at least they kept the streak of the Kings playing in Sacramento alive
 
Not rude. The world is changing some will be left behind but most will move forward. I'm all for the evolution of the game and it's tech/environment
 
Not rude. The world is changing some will be left behind but most will move forward. I'm all for the evolution of the game and it's tech/environment

Should the people being left behind cease going to Kings games? That is certainly a possibility.
 
I just sent a lengthy email to Chris Granger. I hope he'll read it and listen to what I'm saying. I'm quite serious about non-STH being somehow demoted to less than full fan status. Add in the technology issues and I'm pretty sure I won't bother to go to any games at the new arena, but since I'll never be an STH they probably won't notice.

I'll admit it - this has set me off more than I thought it would. I have lived and breathed Kings since 1985. I have devoted many more hours than I care to count in promoting the Kings, doing things like play-by-play game analysis via DIAL-UP here, etc. I will always love the team but right now I'm not real happy with some of the front office decisions.
I understand the frustration, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that after years and years of nearly losing this team to no arena deal, that you would decide to never attend a game at the new arena because of these issues. The pins/programs issue needs to be addressed, but this new arena is what gives us a team to cheer for and you better believe I'll be there to experience it in all its glory when it opens up. Pins or no pins.
 
Amazingly rude.
Amazingly correct u mean? Hey what are the odds this person actually has OCD. But seriously this is some ticky tack stuff to be writing angry letters about. As I mentioned before in my first post The team made an attempt to hand out some pins. Apparently there's some people who's support of the organization hangs in the balance of receiving one of these pins... A friendly suggestion to the owners is all that was necessary. Not a bunch of whining and crying over such nonsense.

people need to just be happy that sacramento has a team. Jeez

You could be sitting at home by yourself staring at your collection of pins instead of being at the Kings game! watching basketball live! Lol!
 
Amazingly rude.
Also he started off his rant with "Who the hell are you?" And a off putting apology for my first post that wasn't rude at all. So let's get it straight who was rude first. This is become the most interesting and ridiculous the thread I've seen in a long time.
 

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Also he started off his rant with "Who the hell are you?" And a off putting apology for my first post that wasn't rude at all. So let's get it straight who was rude first. This is become the most interesting and ridiculous the thread I've seen in a long time.

All of your posts in this thread have been rude, whether you care to believe it or not. But whatever...

At this point, I'm closing this thread.
 
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