Wow! I forgot about Anaheim.........

CruzDude

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In the New York Daily News today, Mitch Lawrence indicates that David Stern had some interesting comments about single team pro markets in general and about the Maloofs and Anaheim in particular:

"One of the things we've done is try to find ways of operating through a collective bargaining system that would support a team that is well-managed in a market like San Antonio, Memphis, Orlando, Salt Lake City — single-sport cities," Stern said. "So you can understand it's not a subject that scares us."

It's not a virgin territory for pro sports teams, but may we again suggest a city that might do the trick: Anaheim. The Maloofs, owners of the Sacramento Kings, have been thinking of moving to Anaheim for years because of its proximity to their headquarters in Las Vegas. And since they still can't get a new arena, just like the Sonics, they've still got those thoughts.

I had forgotten that the Maloofs and Anaheim had come up in the news a few years back and the talks seemed somewhat serious about Disneyland being a possible new home for the Kings.
 
uolj

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I've never read anything but denials from the Maloofs about Anaheim. I've heard of Anaheim officials trying to woo the Kings, but not the other way around.

I'm not saying that there's no way the Maloofs are thinking about it. I'm sure they are. I just don't think they will be actively pursuing such a scenario until the current attempts of Moag fail.
 
Entity

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i wonder if the logo would be the same except replace Sacramento with Anaheim. that is my only concern actually. I live on the east coast. They could move back to Kansas City for all I care.
 
VF21

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Mitch Lawrence is pulling things out of his arse. I'd like to see him PROVE his comment. Get a direct quote from the Maloofs. He can't do it.
 
DocHolliday

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VF21 said:
Mitch Lawrence is pulling things out of his arse. I'd like to see him PROVE his comment. Get a direct quote from the Maloofs. He can't do it.
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VF, I'm not saying I disagree with you here, I definitely agree with getting it straight from the horses mouth. On the other hand why would the Maloofs ever give that direct quote? That would gain them nothing. It wouldn't be in their best interest, even if it were true.
 
VF21

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True enough. BUT Mitch Lawrence is vague and has nothing to back up his comments. "The Maloofs are still thinking about it" is about as poor a journalistic statement as you'll ever see.

Sorry, but I don't see why this keeps coming up. It's almost as though some "reporters" want to be able to claim they were the first to "report" it if it ever does come to pass.

At some point down the road - if the arena deal doesn't go through - the Maloofs MIGHT move the team. But we'd have a lot of local advance warning. There are things like contractual obligations, etc. they can't just walk away from.

This kind of speculation is fine unless people start believing it. The New York Daily News? Comments about what the Maloofs are thinking?

All I'm really saying is there is a plethora of information out there. Some of it is believable; some of it is obvious puffery. I tend to believe this bit by Lawrence is of little to no value as it has no ring of credibility to it.
 
Purple Reign

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"It's not a virgin territory for pro sports teams, but may we again suggest a city that might do the trick: Anaheim. The Maloofs, owners of the Sacramento Kings, have been thinking of moving to Anaheim for years because of its proximity to their headquarters in Las Vegas. And since they still can't get a new arena, just like the Sonics, they've still got those thoughts."

Is this a quote from Commissioner Stern, or from the writer. I am confused.:confused:
 
CruzDude

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Stern and Lawrence are both in NY City. I think this is a Stern quote but it may be new or it may be many years old. Stern likes to stir the pot for teams struggling with their cities or arenas and this is one way. It brings up old news but stimulating news in any event, Lawrence credibility or not.
 
kennadog

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If that's Stern's quote, I find two things very strange about it. Isn't it a slap in the face to the Maloofs to not include Sacramento among the well-managed teams?

As to pot-stirring, that would seem weird if it was aimed at Sacramento. The midst of sensitive negotiations would not seem to be the time for this.
 
CruzDude

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The pot stirring was referring to the quote being old news rather than something he said in the last few days. I think he listed the other small market cites in addition to Sacramento as he was apparently talking about Sacto at the time.

All in all the "silence of the lambs" in Sacramento these days is not what we fans want. Any stimulation is welcome, unless of course the City doesn't care what happens to the Kings and their arena needs.
 
uolj

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kennadog said:
If that's Stern's quote, I find two things very strange about it. Isn't it a slap in the face to the Maloofs to not include Sacramento among the well-managed teams?

As to pot-stirring, that would seem weird if it was aimed at Sacramento. The midst of sensitive negotiations would not seem to be the time for this.
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Only the first paragraph was the Stern quote. I'm not sure where CruzDude got the idea that Stern was talking about the Kings and Anaheim, but there's no link and I'm too lazy to look it up. ;)
 
kennadog

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My comments were about that first paragraph quote, not the musing about Anaheim. I find it strange for the reason I gave above.

I wish I knew the context for Stern's quote, as it might explain it.
 
kennadog

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The kind of overall development deal being discussed (not just an arena, but much, much more) is extremely complicated. I want them to get this right. For now, I take no news as good news. Altho I hate the uncertainty.

I think that's part of what makes it hard to draw in new fans and keep the old ones through this rough patch. It's hard to let yourself get or remain too attached to a team that might be leaving, possibly very soon.
 
Kingzrool

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Nothing new here. I'd say Anaheim would the most likely place if they leave Sacramento, all elements are perfect. I have been saying that for over a year now. Vegas will not happen anytime soon after last seasons ref scandal. Right now, the focus is clearly on getting an Arena built here.
 
K

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I just dont see Anaheim has a good fit, unless the Clippers finally get smart and move there. There arena has to be over 10 plus years old and sharing it with the Ducks. You have Seattle opening up this year and Kansas City with a better arena open.
 
hoopsfan

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The Honda Center in Anaheim is a beautiful arena...though I still call it "The Pond". It's actually 15 years old. Also, there's a lot of money in O.C.
 
hoopsfan

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Ryan@CU said:
Didn't the Clippers used to play at The Pond? What happened?
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The Clippers didn't play at The Pond, except for a few games each year and the preseason. The hockey Kings also played a few games there for some charity events.
Prior to Staples opening the Clippers played at the Sports Arena in LA, the Pond was never their arena, though there has been talk for years about them moving there.
 
Oscar

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hoopsfan said:
The Clippers didn't play at The Pond, except for a few games each year and the preseason. The hockey Kings also played a few games there for some charity events.
Prior to Staples opening the Clippers played at the Sports Arena in LA, the Pond was never their arena, though there has been talk for years about them moving there.
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Sterling is so arrogant, he never wanted to move to Anaheim. That would take him away from all his Hollywood friends, Beverly Hills, Bel Air, etc. Even when the Pond was offered to him, he preferred to stay in rickety old LA Sports Arena before Staples was built. He doesn't care about winning either. He'd rather gut payroll then compete for a title.
 
CruzDude

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The Mighty Ducks NHL hockey team has Anaheim as their home ice. It is a short 4 block walk to Disneyland and in the 4-5 million Orange County zip zone. I donno, Cal Expo seems so, well, Cal Expo. Horses, agriculture, 4H club, state fair, state land.......... just not somewhere an NBA team would go much less an NHL hockey team. It's bad enough Sacto has been mocked for its Cow Bells but when you look around, what do you see? Rice, agriculture, farms, more farms, north, west and south. For me personally, a new Kings arena in Sacto, its downtown rail yards or nothing.

If the arena thing drags on another year, maybe Anaheim becomes more attractive. Can you blame the Maloofs? Other than Auburn Hills for the Pistons, every NBA arena I know is downtown. The Nets soon will be downtown Brooklyn in NYC. I'm kinda tired of the cow town albatross around the necks of the Kings. The Vlade-CWebb-Peja crew were good enough to run the Kings through that stigma. But now......... as great as the "kids" might be they are 2-3-4 years away from even getting close to the aura the Kings of 1999-2004. I love the Kings top to bottom but enough is enough on this arena stuff. Thats all. :eek:
 
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