Worries about Ron's offense

[TheJoker]

Pre-season aside, i think he really looks rusty as far as his offensive game goes. this might be a one game lay-off but i expected a better showing. am i overreacting or is Ron's offensive something to worrie about? there is no question his defense is better but i want Ron's offense to improve with consistency.

i hate to see him have a good efficient night and then struggle the next one, and i'm talking about the Regular Season not in the pre-season game.

we need a better efficient from him consistantly.

 

[VF21]

Oh geez. It's one bleeping pre-season game.

Are you over-reacting? Well, yeah...

 

[atxrocker]

pre-season. nuff said. i expect lots of intensity and effectiveness from ron this upcoming season, but highly doubt this single game is any indication of what we should expect from him. (i hope)

 

[RaY Z]

this might be a one game lay-off

its the first game of the PRESEASON.. PRESEASON...

we need a better efficient from him consistantly.

again he's only played one game... mabye if played like tonight (in terms of his offense) for like 10 straight games, mabye you can say that...

but how can you judge someones consistency if they've only played one game????

plus once again he was great in everything else tonight sooo im not worried...

great win today..

GO KINGS!!!

 

[VF21]

pre-season. nuff said. i expect lots of intensity and effectiveness from ron this upcoming season, but highly doubt this single game is any indication of what we should expect from him. (i hope)

I agree completely.

The first pre-season game can indicate some things, but nothing is etched in stone at this point.

I think Muss had goals for tonight that focused primarily on defense. And I'm pretty sure those goals were met.

The next game could be completely different.

I'm just glad we're seeing Kings basketball and I'm really curious to see just how much Muss can get from these players. It's sure looking good so far.

 

[TheJoker]

VF, i know its one game but i want him to have a consistant efficient games in the Regular Season.

thats something he needs to improve on.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

VF, i know its one game but i want him to have a consistant efficient games in the Regular Season.

thats something he needs to improve on.

Dude, Ron averaged 17 pts. last season out of shape and hadn't played NBA ball in a year and a half...get over it...tonight was the first PRE-SEASON game! Take a deep breath...Ron isn't gonna pull a Vin Baker on us anytime soon.

 

[VF21]

VF, i know its one game but i want him to have a consistant efficient games in the Regular Season.

You act like you're the only one.

thats something he needs to improve on.

I'll say it once more and then I'm just going to ignore this thread...

This was the FIRST game of the PRE-SEASON.

First - As in prior to all others in time. As in the beginning of something.

Pre-season - The portion of time between off-season and the regular season. The time when training camp and scrimmages against other teams occur. A time when coaches look at their teams to assess strengths and weaknesses, to determine which players will best suit their needs for the coming year, and when they get their players into peak condition for the upcoming season.

It was a PRE-SEASON game. You can fret about it all you like, but it's without basis in fact for you to do so.

Do you also worry about Earth being destroyed by a comet?

 

[KingKong]

Do you also worry about Earth being destroyed by a comet?

Yes all the time. In fact I sleepless nights over it. Armaggedon is close.

 

[TheJoker]

Do you also worry about Earth being destroyed by a comet?

sometimes

 

[Padrino]

the whole preseason angle has been accounted for in this thread, so i'll spare you the grief. however, just as a matter of curiousity, of all the worries to have as a kings fan, why worry about ron's game? worry about the kings long-term rebounding troubles, or the gaping holes in our frontline's defense. worry about the team's health, which always seems to be an issue. worry about musselman's ability to take this team to the playoffs. there's a myriad of legitimate concerns to have as a kings fan. if you're gonna worry about ron ron...worry about his sanity. worry about his stability. worry about his propensity for saying things that could be detrimental to a locker room atmosphere. the guy's shooting is a bit streaky, this is certainly true, but more often than not, he's gonna positively effect the outcome of the game. there are other, more important things to worry about as a kings fan than ron artest. let's worry about the unknowns. ron's a known quantity, even if that makes him a ? in respect to what he's gonna say or do in front of a camera.

 

[atxrocker]

worry about the kings long-term rebounding troubles, or the gaping holes in our frontline's defense. worry about the team's health, which always seems to be an issue. worry about musselman's ability to take this team to the playoffs. there's a myriad of legitimate concerns to have as a kings fan.

I completely agree with this post.

 

[TheJoker]

Quite frankly there is alot of things to worrie about but the question is, can we over-come it?

 

[KingKong]

If you're worrying this early in the game, I can't even think of what will happen when we're playing in the Finals.

 

[BMiller52]

You're overreacting dude...

 

[VF21]

Quite frankly there is alot of things to worrie about but the question is, can we over-come it?

Quite frankly, you'd make Debbie the Downer look like the life of the party.

Dude, it was our first pre-season game. Our team looked good, we saw new players with potential, we saw our coach involved and calling plays the whole game, we saw focus and effort and we saw Dallas lose.

Could you just put it on hold for a while? Some of us would actually like to enjoy the ride before we come crashing into the cement wall at the end.

 

[TheJoker]

I'm not discouraging our performance i'm just worried about Ron's offensive game, and if he can learn how be consistant with his offensive game.

there is no doubt the team played good though.

 

[Entity]

Joker Brad Miller never missed a shot. Now he may go 3 games straight and not hit one. Does that mean he is rusty?? Players have games where they can't hit ****. Tonight was Rons night. If we had been hitting everything we would have won by 50.

 

[Spike]

Why worry?

Bibby is 100% from 3 PT range, and Corliss is dropping 10 pts. a game.

If anything, worry about KMart's assist/TO ratio as -1, or the fact that opposing teams are scoring 30% of their point total during the fourth quarter, implying a possible defensive meltdown.

I am requesting a ban on preseason worrying, barring injury, theft, or fire. Enjoy the fact that you're seeing the team focus on certain aspects of the game, and that you're watching some young guys that may be sent to Albuquerque in a couple of games.

Sheesh.

 

[BigWaxer]

Absolutely unbelievable... were are the trade artest threads? hahah

Some of you need to realize that not every player will look good every night. Not every game will be a win. There will be streaks, ups and downs especially with a new coach, new system and some fresh faces.

Kings overall looked great for just being pre game 1. It means nothing, but it did show they were buying into the system. Which I think is most important right now.

 

[piksi]

Pre-season aside, i think he really looks rusty as far as his offensive game goes. this might be a one game lay-off but i expected a better showing. am i overreacting or is Ron's offensive something to worrie about? there is no question his defense is better but i want Ron's offense to improve with consistency.

i hate to see him have a good efficient night and then struggle the next one, and i'm talking about the Regular Season not in the pre-season game.

we need a better efficient from him consistantly.

this is why I boycott preseason

 

[Merdiesel]

Ron Artest is the player I am least worried about.
Hes a baller, everyone knows that, if hes struggling and one thing he will make it up in other ways.

 

[BLH]

No biggie. Its just one preseason game, and the first one as well. The guy is a hard worker, and he'll find a way to make up for his bad shooting nights with his defense.

 

[Run's House]

Little dramatic for a preseason game, wouldn't you say?

 

[BawLa]

Ron Artest is the player I am least worried about.
Hes a baller, everyone knows that, if hes struggling and one thing he will make it up in other ways.

I agree, sometimes you are willing to take the good with the bad. But I think it would be nice if he takes less shots and has a little better shot selection. I'm not trying to judge him after one meaningless preseason game. Last year I questioned his shot selection. And volume of shots. We have so many guys that can shoot that I would like to see Ron focus on iso/post plays and pepper a few perimeter shots here and there. I think his passion, which I love BTW, causes him to want to "carry" the team offensively. There is no doubt that he carries our team defensively but his passion tells him to do it all. It is going to be tough for Muss to get Ron to realize he doesn't need to do it all.

 

[Troy]

Ron Artest is the player I am least worried about.
Hes a baller, everyone knows that, if hes struggling and one thing he will make it up in other ways.

Artest is the most intense guy there is and will be spending plenty of time working bugs out. I just don't like it when he chucks up shots. He is much more effective driving to the basket and then dishing off for an open look for a teammate. He just wants to win so bad he tries to take the whole load on his shoulders and carry us offensively. With Brad, Bibby and Kmart being such good shooters, he doesn't need to do this.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Ron's offense will come in time, but i was most surprised by how fluent our offense was in the first preseason game. Even the bench manhandled Mavs's bench.

 

[Widowmaker2k]

Bibby is 100% from 3 PT range, and Corliss is dropping 10 pts. a game.

If anything, worry about KMart's assist/TO ratio as -1, or the fact that opposing teams are scoring 30% of their point total during the fourth quarter, implying a possible defensive meltdown.

I am requesting a ban on preseason worrying, barring injury, theft, or fire. Enjoy the fact that you're seeing the team focus on certain aspects of the game, and that you're watching some young guys that may be sent to Albuquerque in a couple of games.

Sheesh.

What's really surprising is that KG is only averaging 2 rebounds per game this year! And LBJ has sat out the entire season!

 

[rumpled]

I seem to remember quite a few 3-14 type nights from Artest last year, during the REAL season. And sure enough, the 38% FG he shot as a King is a career low. At the time I thought well, new offense, new team, and it looks like Rick just handed him the reins and said go get em.

But I also think it has to do with Artest initiating the offense more than ever before, the point-forward experiment if you will. He's not _bad_ at it, but you can see there are times when he runs out of ideas and just puts it up. Ron's a decent offensive player but its really not his best thing, despite all the talk about how he should be taking 30 shots a night. So maybe we gave up some offensive efficiency in order to keep our best player happy. And as was said, you take the bad with the good.

I like to see players hit half their shots too but as long as he doesn't insist on jacking up 40 shots to get his 30 points it doesn't really hurt us much. Between what he brings to other areas of the game, and the (whispers) danger of having an unhappy Ron, it seems better to just try to be kind and call his FG% iversonesque or something.

 

[VF21]

I'm not worried. Ron had an off-night. It happens. Bibby has had off-nights, too. As long as Ron keeps shooting, he has to be considered a legitimate offensive threat and that means someone will have to guard him...and that will make it easier on one of the other guys.