bajaden
Hall of Famer
Well, using the last two games as reference, I think we could safely argue that he's already exceeded those expectations. Very low bar though.
Willie Cauley-Stein
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Well, using the last two games as reference, I think we could safely argue that he's already exceeded those expectations. Very low bar though.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
When you look at Towns, your looking at the next superstar in the league. Okafor will be good, but he's more of a Jefferson type of player. Take him away from the basket, and he's lost offensively, plus he's an average defender at best. Now I'm sure that like Cousins, he'll improve defensively. But Towns can do every thing Okafor can do offensively, and much more. He's a very good passer and rebounder. He can put the ball on the floor and attack the basket. He has a very good 18 foot jumper, and seems to have added the three point shot to his tool box. What makes Towns a star though is that he's a very, very good defender and shot blocker as well.
I watched Willie play along side Towns last season, how well he fit next to him, and thought at the time how similar Towns and Cousins game was. And then my dream came true. Of course my big dream was Towns playing along side of Cousins. That would have been our dream and the league's nightmare.
KAT wanted to roam the perimeter when he first started at UK. Calipari forced him to play in the post, learn how to hold position, add the jump hook and use both hands.
All season the experts kept saying Okafor is the #1 pick. Cal kept promoting Towns as being able to play defense and the league knows he can shoot from the perimeter.
I think Cal is more impressed, getting these kids picked and high, than worrying about a championship. He was to a fault trying with the Harrisons
Skal Labissiere is next in line Very thin 6-11, very, very skilled offensively. Wants to play around perimeter and Cal put him in the post to do the same as KAT.
KAT Sr thanked Cal publically for all he done. It wasn't without the pouting etc to start.
All season the experts kept saying Okafor is the #1 pick. Cal kept promoting Towns as being able to play defense and the league knows he can shoot from the perimeter.
I think Cal is more impressed, getting these kids picked and high, than worrying about a championship. He was to a fault trying with the Harrisons
Skal Labissiere is next in line Very thin 6-11, very, very skilled offensively. Wants to play around perimeter and Cal put him in the post to do the same as KAT.
KAT Sr thanked Cal publically for all he done. It wasn't without the pouting etc to start.
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KingMilz
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KAT is literally a cross between Cousins/Davis with a higher IQ than both he makes excellent decisions and has unreal passing out of the post. Also I think people bringing up all these rookie bigs are seriously underrating Myles Turner.
I'm a huge fan of Porzingis and that was the guy I really wanted on this team. However, I think his development would be for long term purposes, not this year. he'd probably also look like a bust on the Kings. We'd give him 15mins to show that he can do ok, without giving him more minutes to learn and go through his progressions. That's something he has on the Knicks. He's going to be a good player as long as he can stay healthy.
Iced Espresso
Starter
I'm loving watching WCS play. I wish Karl would play him more and KK less personally. He's been the highlight for me during this dreadful start.
Willie was a wide receiver in HS football. In fact, Cal gave him an offer at a football game.
Hard to believe he lived 30 miles from U of Kansas. Bill Self let a good one slip away, a 7 footer who can run like a deer and athletic.
I hope he dedicates himself to improving. He is a different cat, many interests.
Hard to believe he lived 30 miles from U of Kansas. Bill Self let a good one slip away, a 7 footer who can run like a deer and athletic.
I hope he dedicates himself to improving. He is a different cat, many interests.
Iced Espresso
Starter
Calling Karl....
9x1x6
Bench
http://www.whsports.co/#!Rookie-Rankings-Week-4/cmbz/565252480cf29e70f22296d5
Willie still rank 6th in these rookie rankings in linited minutes. Can easily see him moving up later in the season.
Willie still rank 6th in these rookie rankings in linited minutes. Can easily see him moving up later in the season.
SacKings384
Starter
Simply because he's a rookie. Even worse is that B-Mac is playing WELL and he's still riding the pine.
Padrino
All-Star
george karl has often pinned his young players to the pine. he has a reputation for not giving his rookies much time on the court. however, given cauley-stein's nba readiness on defense and the kings' deficiencies on that end of the court, i figured karl wouldn't have much choice but to play WCS big minutes. but he doesn't seem aware of the merits of willie's contributions on defense (or doesn't seem aware of the merits of defense altogether)...
KingsFanSince85
All-Star
There's really no excuse for it, given the weaknesses of the team and Willie's strengths.
Kingston Jamaica
Bench
At this point I have no more reservations. Willie is going to become a very, very good basketball player in the NBA. It takes much longer for the big men to mature, but when you look at Willie's agility, timing, speed and overall vision of the game, the Kings made an excellent choice picking him up. His day will come sooner rather than later.
sono
Starter
Makes me wonder as well. The Kings are the worst in 2 points allowed, I thought our perimeter defense was bad. This is the first time I've ever started paying attention to the stats.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
This stuff about WCS guarding 5 positions is mythology. He can't guard a 1, a 2, or a 3. If he could, the defense of the Kings wouldn't be so putrid.
King Baller
All-Star
Willie is the best help defender on the Kings and the best at the switching defense Karl has them playing. Willie can't guard smalls full time, but on a switch he is pretty darned good. For me Karl is showing his bad side by not playing Willie more.
When Acy started the second half last night Karl conceded the game IMO.
So far this season I don't like the way Karl handles the game time decisions with the Kings. I also don't like the Small Ball. I don't like playing Rondo and Collison unless the 3,4 and 5 are full size. I don't like the pace and space game full time. I want the starters to be full size and I want teams to prove they can beat a Big team with small ball. Don't point to GSW over the Grizz in last seasons PO because Conley had a broken face.
The biggest problem is he can't guard those positions all at the same time.
The Kings defense is bad because Karl's system is awful where he insists on putting players in bad matchups.
KingsFanGER
Starter
I think with Acy on the floor at the beginning off the second half, we held the Wolves to 2-7 from the field. The problem was, that we shot 1-10 during this stretch.
So one can debate, if playing Acy actually helped our defense.
SacKings384
Starter
That's what I've noticed. 80% of the time the defense is scrambling to try and double/switch a bad matchup. It puts everyone out of position.
Dime Dropper
All-Star
Still butthurt about being wrong?
Obviously WCS can't guard those positions on a full-time basis. If you want to find someone at this size who can do a better job on switches, be my guest. You'd be pretty wrong, but that's nothing new. Go ahead and ignore this post like you always do to anyone who asks you to back up your claims. Maybe if Karl actually played him when we need defense, we wouldn't be so putrid. I can think of at least 3 games this year where we came out of a timeout on defense, needing a stop, and WCS wasn't in the game. WTF! One of the few times he was in the game in this situation, he sealed the win with a deflection on the inbounds.
Get over it already.
WCS is a rookie.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Really, have you been watching him play. How many times has he been isolated on the perimeter against a PG or a SG and they haven't tried to take him off the dribble, or they did and missed the shot. He's not perfect right now by any means, but he as quick as most of the PG's in the league, and with his length, even if they cross him over, which I might add can happen to any player, his length in pursuit will still cause them problems. Let me put it this way. If I had to choose between WCS or Collison to guard Chris Paul for an entire game, I'd pick WCS ten times out of ten, and I guarantee you the results would be better.
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KingMilz
Guest
I would not mind if we lost a couple more games and than we had to start thinking about next year, if it leads to WCS playing full games and certain other players getting traded.
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Im Still Ballin
Guest
WCS was brought to this team to be paired with Demarcus
Their styles compliment eachother on the defensive end
We just haven't seen it enough
Their styles compliment eachother on the defensive end
We just haven't seen it enough
That's pretty much how I've felt after 20 games for the last 5 years.
