Will Mike be an all-star? (Poll added)

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Will Mike Bibby Finally Be an All Star (POLL ADDED)

With the All Star voting coming to a close on Thursday, I have two questions for Kings Fans:

QUESTION #1
Do you think Mike Bibby DESERVES to finally receive his first All Star Game birth.

.437 - FG
.385 - 3's FG
.851 - FT
3.3 - RPG
5.6 - APG
1.36 - SPG
2.51 - Turnovers per game
20.8 PPG

29.1 PPG with a 4-5 record over the last 9 games with very little defense.



QUESTION #2
Do you think Mike Bibby WILL to finally receive his first All Star Game birth.

Prospectve Western Conference All Star Guards:
Kobe Bryant
Steve Nash
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Ray Allen
Baron Davis
Jason Richardson
Jason Terry
Chris Paul

 

[QueensFan]

Meh - I think Mike is playing out of his mind lately but the team hasn't been winning. And with the West chock full o' guards, it'll be a stretch. I do think he's an allstar calibur player, so I guess he deserves it, I just doubt that he'll get it.

 

[BMiller52]

1: Yes
2: No

 

[HndsmCelt]

"Prospectve Western Conference All Star Guards:
Kobe Bryant
Steve Nash
Manu Ginobili
Tony Parker
Ray Allen
Baron Davis
Jason Richardson
Jason Terry
Chris Paul"

And there in hangs the tale my friend.

 

[piksi]

No and no

 

[bench_blob]

The locks are Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, and Tony Parker.

Then Bibby as 4th guard is as good a choice as any.

Mike Bibby is the 2nd highest scoring PG behind AI, highest in West Conference.

Based on the teams record, his chances are slim.

Based on what he has done last 4-5 years, and fact he has never made it, coaches may be sympathetic, and willing to acwknowledge him...he has an outside chance.

If we could roll off 5-6 straight before All-Star break, that wouldn't hurt. Neither his chances nor our playoff hopes.

 

[Bricklayer]

Guys from losing teams rarely make it, and the emergence of Tony Parker (Eva must be inspiring) give the West its two PGs (Parker & Nash). So probably not again.

 

[SacTownKid]

I don't see Manu making it. Just hurt too much. Bibby has a chance. But as always, Brad probably has the best shot considering the lack of quality C's. Yao will be voted in, and Camby should make it. After that its fair game.

 

[Amory]

no sir....

 

[DocHolliday]

If he wasn't an all star when we had a winning record, he sure as hell won't be an all star when we don't have a winning record. What kills me is Steve Nash gets all the spotlight, but Bibby always lights him up. Nash doesn't have great defense either. He has a lot of great, consistant, athletic, players around him. Put Bibby on that team and he'd be an all star MVP to.

 

[LakerN49erChick05]

1. No
2. No

 

[Bricklayer]

If he wasn't an all star when we had a winning record, he sure as hell won't be an all star when we don't have a winning record. What kills me is Steve Nash gets all the spotlight, but Bibby always lights him up. Nash doesn't have great defense either. He has a lot of great, consistant, athletic, players around him. Put Bibby on that team and he'd be an all star MVP to.

No he wouldn't. People keep on saying that, but Nash is 1000x the playmaker Mike is and is the perfect guy to run that machine.

Now magically make us 26-18 ratehr than 18-26 and he would have a shot again as guard #5.

 

[kingsfan916]

1 Yes
2 No

 

[atxrocker]

Even though Mike has been pretty solid overall this season I don't think he will make the team.

 

[DocHolliday]

No he wouldn't. People keep on saying that, but Nash is 1000x the playmaker Mike is and is the perfect guy to run that machine.

Now magically make us 26-18 ratehr than 18-26 and he would have a shot again as guard #5.

I disagree Bibby is a great playmaker. Not as much this year, because he hasn't had the great pieces around him at times. Nash has GREAT weapons around him, which free him up that much more. You have to worry about pretty much every position on that team. That's why they are so dangerous offensively.

 

[sono]

Nash/Parker & the team is struggling, oops Brick had said already.

 

[Bballkingsrock]

Just to tell EVERYONE, David Wesly is ahead of him in the votes right now and Jason Richardson..........

 

[DaMan]

Hell No. The only reason that he is playing so well is because he could do what ever he whats (do to injuries) and when nobody was injured he did not play well at all because he had to share the ball. And he is a damm yoyo you don't know which bibby is coming to play, lol. I wouldn't feel right if bibby went to the allstar game just because he played well for the last 2 to 3 weeks and a spoty 2 to 3 weeks at that.

If anything shareef and bonzi were the only kings that desevered to make the all-star team because they were playing so well the whole season before there injuries. But i doubt either one would have gotten in even if they played the whole season.

 

[Kings113]

David Wesley being so high in voting is absolutely insane... I figured he'd go down, but he didn't.

 

[4cwebb]

I disagree Bibby is a great playmaker. Not as much this year, because he hasn't had the great pieces around him at times. Nash has GREAT weapons around him, which free him up that much more. You have to worry about pretty much every position on that team. That's why they are so dangerous offensively.

I agree that Bibby is not in the same situation as Nash with all of those offensive talents, but I just don't see Bibby as the dynamic penetrator and architect of the pick and roll as Nash, regardless of his teammates, largely b/c Bibby does not have Nash's speed and/or quickness. Those attributes make Nash a better playmaker than Bibby, imho.

 

[DaMan]

Just to tell EVERYONE, David Wesly is ahead of him in the votes right now and Jason Richardson..........

Wesly in the allstar-bating is a joke, he got alot of the asian vote from yao. And am not shocked about j Rich he is having a pretty good season and I wouldn't be mad if he mad it. I know i will get bashed for this but i think J. Rich is way better, personaly i think we overrate bibby alittle, most of his great games came when nobody else was around him which give him the freedom to shoot, and he is weak on d. But do not get me wrong i love bibby but i just think we overrate him alittle.

 

[Bballkingsrock]

Wesly in the allstar-bating is a joke, he got alot of the asian vote from yao. And am not shocked about j Rich he is having a pretty good season and I wouldn't be mad if he mad it. I know i will get bashed for this but i think J. Rich is way better, personaly i think we overrate bibby alittle, most of his great games came when nobody else was around him which give him the freedom to shoot, and he is weak on d. But do not get me wrong i love bibby but i just think we overrate him alittle.

Yeah, I was just saying David WEsly is leading in votes above Jason Richardson also........

 

[tradepeja]

No he wouldn't. People keep on saying that, but Nash is 1000x the playmaker Mike is and is the perfect guy to run that machine.

Now magically make us 26-18 ratehr than 18-26 and he would have a shot again as guard #5.

Wrong. Mike Bibby on a team of Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudamire, Joe Johnson, and Q. Rich (im alluding to the 05 Suns) would dish out close to if not 10 assists a game. He averaged nearly 9 assists a game on that horrid, but athletic Vancouver Grizzlies team when he first came into the league, and if put into the Pheonix Suns system in place of Nash would probably fare just as well. Sure he wouldn't be having any 20 assist games, the Suns wouldn't have been as good, and he wouldn't have won MVP, but he could have easily filled the same role and gotten to the all-star game if he was on that team, while maybe not as spectacularly. Oh, and as bad as Bibby's D is, its better than Nash's.

Anyway, on topic, I don't think Bibby will make it this year. His best shot was last year, when he was averaging 20, 4, and 6 and the Kings were doing pretty well. He got snubbed in place of Manu Ginobli (who wasn't even averaging great numbers and should not have made it, alone with Rashard Lewis). If the Kings can do better next year and he can up his FG%, he'll finally make it in 07.

 

[DaMan]

I disagree Bibby is a great playmaker. Not as much this year, because he hasn't had the great pieces around him at times. Nash has GREAT weapons around him, which free him up that much more. You have to worry about pretty much every position on that team. That's why they are so dangerous offensively.

There are no excues for bibby because Mabury (which in my opinion is the better player) has less talent around him and still avg more assits then he does. And this is mostly likely's Marbury worst season.

And other then Marion, there is no other great weapons on that team right know. Bibby is not that great of a playmaker, he is more of a shooting guard in a pg guard body. In the past Doug, Divc, and Cwebb were the playmakers.

 

[DaMan]

Yeah, I was just saying David WEsly is leading in votes above Jason Richardson also........

I am sorry i misunderstood u.

 

[DaMan]

Wrong. Mike Bibby on a team of Shawn Marion, Amare Stoudamire, Joe Johnson, and Q. Rich (im alluding to the 05 Suns) would dish out close to if not 10 assists a game. He averaged nearly 9 assists a game on that horrid, but athletic Vancouver Grizzlies team when he first came into the league, and if put into the Pheonix Suns system in place of Nash would probably fare just as well. Sure he wouldn't be having any 20 assist games, the Suns wouldn't have been as good, and he wouldn't have won MVP, but he could have easily filled the same role and gotten to the all-star game if he was on that team, while maybe not as spectacularly. Oh, and as bad as Bibby's D is, its better than Nash's.

Anyway, on topic, I don't think Bibby will make it this year. His best shot was last year, when he was averaging 20, 4, and 6 and the Kings were doing pretty well. He got snubbed in place of Manu Ginobli (who wasn't even averaging great numbers and should not have made it, alone with Rashard Lewis). If the Kings can do better next year and he can up his FG%, he'll finally make it in 07.

No you are wrong there is no why that u could say that bibby could do what nash did, nash is the damm MVP of the leauge. I bet u put bibby on that team right know and they would not even make the playoffs (mainly because he is shoot first point gurad). Other then kidd, Nash is the only pg in the leauge that if u put him in any team he will improve it, u can't say that about bibby.

And no bibby is not a better def then nash, not trying to be mean but 2 games ago was the first time i saw bibby try to play d.

 

[tradepeja]

No you are wrong there is no why that u could say that bibby could do what nash did, nash is the damm MVP of the leauge. I bet u put bibby on that team right know and they would not even make the playoffs (mainly because he is shoot first point gurad). Other then kidd, Nash is the only pg in the leauge that if u put him in any team he will improve it, u can't say that about bibby.

And no bibby is not a better def then nash, not trying to be mean but 2 games ago was the first time i saw bibby try to play d.

I respected your opinion until you called Nash a better defender than Bibby. Nash couldn't defend my grandma on a take to the basket, and she's dead! Bibby is a completely incompetent defender, yes, but Nash in an INFAMOUSLY bad defender. From his days back in D-less Dallas and now to Pheonix.

Anyway, I never said Bibby would win the MVP or average 12 assist per game, i just said he could function very similarly to what Nash did, except he'd take away from the overall team by scoring more than Nash did that year.

 

[bcfy]

No you are wrong there is no why that u could say that bibby could do what nash did, nash is the damm MVP of the leauge. I bet u put bibby on that team right know and they would not even make the playoffs (mainly because he is shoot first point gurad). Other then kidd, Nash is the only pg in the leauge that if u put him in any team he will improve it, u can't say that about bibby.

And no bibby is not a better def then nash, not trying to be mean but 2 games ago was the first time i saw bibby try to play d.

While some say Bibby is so overrated, I am really tired of defending him on every Bibby-related thread...how about if I say Nash is so overrated? Now in the Suns Nash is operating Sun's offense 99% of time...he has given the chance to do all he wants to do..passing or shooting or creating or watever..the same Nash couldn't do it in Dallas...
Now is bibby really given the freedom and a offensive system to do whatever he wants? How many times you see him either pass up the ball to Brad right after he cross the mid-court? How many times you see him setting up picks for Peja in the corner and run the little 3 man game with Brad holding the ball? How many times you see him just give up the ball to SAR and Wells and let them play 1 on 1? I have seen this more than 70% of the so called "Bibby's offense"...at least not until the past few weeks when we had no SAR, no Wells and an inefficient Peja...

and to the topic
1 for the 1st question, and 2 for the 2nd question...maybe unless we really can put up 5 or 6 straight W before all-star break..

 

[DaMan]

I respected your opinion until you called Nash a better defender than Bibby. Nash couldn't defend my grandma on a take to the basket, and she's dead! Bibby is a completely incompetent defender, yes, but Nash in an INFAMOUSLY bad defender. From his days back in D-less Dallas and now to Pheonix.

Anyway, I never said Bibby would win the MVP or average 12 assist per game, i just said he could function very similarly to what Nash did, except he'd take away from the overall team by scoring more than Nash did that year.

I will agree about the d, but i don't think the suns would make the playoffs with bibby. The suns remind me of the nets, the team sucked until kidd got there and then he made them champs. That reminds me of what Nash did to the suns. I really doubt that bibby could do that to any team, if he could he should be doing it to the kings.

And Marbury, who in my opinion is better then bibby, could not do any thing with that team. what makes u think bibby could. To me bibby has to show me that he could get out of the shadow of webber and divc because he has proved nothing.

 

[DaMan]

While some say Bibby is so overrated, I am really tired of defending him on every Bibby-related thread...how about if I say Nash is so overrated? Now in the Suns Nash is operating Sun's offense 99% of time...he has given the chance to do all he wants to do..passing or shooting or creating or watever..the same Nash couldn't do it in Dallas...
Now is bibby really given the freedom and a offensive system to do whatever he wants? How many times you see him either pass up the ball to Brad right after he cross the mid-court? How many times you see him setting up picks for Peja in the corner and run the little 3 man game with Brad holding the ball? How many times you see him just give up the ball to SAR and Wells and let them play 1 on 1? I have seen this more than 70% of the so called "Bibby's offense"...at least not until the past few weeks when we had no SAR, no Wells and an inefficient Peja...

and to the topic
1 for the 1st question, and 2 for the 2nd question...maybe unless we really can put up 5 or 6 straight W before all-star break..

When nash was in dal he had 2 other allstars on that team in finily and Dirk, and they had already reach their top potienlt, so nash didn't have to do much. But When nash got to suns he made Marion, Amare, Joe, and Q reach new Hights.

The kins have always played like that it's playing to bibby stength, he was never the ball handler. But u forgot to add that ever since webber left bibby has taken most of the shots, that is just his game. He is a shooting guard in a point guard body. That is what he seems to like to do.