Why Webber get booed

[gangdogu]

What's funny on this board is that we pay so much attention to such details like Webb getting booed.

I'm definitely more concerned by the fans not chanting out loud 'DE-FENSE' in the stands. The team was so lazy at times against the Rockets, sloppy passes, bad shots, no defense. Sounds like the old Arco Arena crowd died a couple of years ago, fans being more into booing a star player instead of being the loudest supporters in the league. We must sometimes face it. Fans have not been doing their job lately.
The other night, I had to wait until the fourth quarter before hearing 'DE-FENSE' the way it should be screamed.

I hope that if any boobird get to read this message, he'll think about it.

 

[KingKong]

I agree i've been watching the games lately (through the net) and man the crowd doesn't really seem into the game much except for the 4th Quarter and even that doesn't seem as loud as it should be. Please someone tell me it's the audio on my PC

 

[VF21]

What's funny on this board is that we pay so much attention to such details like Webb getting booed.

I'm definitely more concerned by the fans not chanting out loud 'DE-FENSE' in the stands. The team was so lazy at times against the Rockets, sloppy passes, bad shots, no defense. Sounds like the old Arco Arena crowd died a couple of years ago, fans being more into booing a star player instead of being the loudest supporters in the league. We must sometimes face it. Fans have not been doing their job lately.
The other night, I had to wait until the fourth quarter before hearing 'DE-FENSE' the way it should be screamed.

I hope that if any boobird get to read this message, he'll think about it.

I'm sorry I'm late to respond to this, but I just got home from Sacramento...

I cannot believe how many people think that simply because they didn't hear something over the TV that it didn't happen.

I couldn't speak for nearly a whole day because I had yelled 'DE-FENSE" and so did a LOT of people.

If you aren't there, maybe you shouldn't complain about what did or didn't happen.

 

[kgrichwine]

I was at the Bulls game and the Grizzlies game. The Bulls game the crowd was lacidazical and I was thinking the Arco thunder was dead. The very next game was against Jwill and the Grizzlies and the ARCO crowd can take credit for winning that game. I guess the crowd gets into it when its really needed.

 

[VF21]

It's truly amazing that this booing thing is still going on and being discussed.

Webb was booed in 2 games last year and once this year, last night. I was in attendance at all 3 games, and it is apparent to all that the boobirds are way, way, way in the minority. Last night I would characterize the audio as just a smattering of boos. So, those of you that understand the ridiculously simple concept that booing your own is counter-productive and worry about the Arco crowd "turning", well, don't worry. The majority of fans still understand and will thus continue to have a positive influence on team performance down the road, as they have in the past.

And to those of you that want to continue to boo Webber when he misses 4 elbow shots in a row, why don't you emerge from your hypocritical inner self and boo BoJax when he constantly never runs the offense and jacks up wild shots...boo Peja for continually missing all those easy chippies (hey, ya'll should be crying for Peja to do the opposite of CWebb: "Take it outside, Peja...don't shoot that twisting reverse layup!!!"

Oh, that's right, Peja and Bobby don't make as much money as Chris, so that changes EVERYTHING, doesn't it? There is a salary level that grants you boo-immunity with some. That makes total sense.

What is crystal clear from this thread and others related to booing I have read and participated in over the last year is this...there are clearly two kinds of fans: true fans and those that only care about slipping on a t-shirt that says their team won something.

The former love their team and players unconditionally, and believe in the quality of the team management, coaching staff, and players themselves that the proper adjustments will be made when things are not going in the optimum direction. The latter are characterized by hypernegativity and fault-finding, even during the winning streaks and good times, and they always carry the banner of being a pragmatist. They also tend to show their true colors that they have developed "personal" feelings about someone or some thing that may have nothing to do with the game of basketball. The latter group also clearly does not have nearly as much FUN as the former group.

I'm in the former group, and I can't imagine ever going over to the dark side.

I completely and totally agree...

If I might, I would like to add one additional comment. The fan who loves the team unconditionally can be critical, he/she can discuss who played well and who played poorly during any given game, etc. BUT they do not feel the need to boo a player who is simply having an off-night.

I think booing is one step above throwing things... but we've had this debate before here on Kingsfans.

I think it needs to be emphasized that those who booed during the Rockets game were clearly in the minority. For the most part, the crowd was a little quiet at the beginning but clearly got into it when the Kings started to get down to business. I don't know if it was heard over the TV, but in our section one gentleman cried "MEOW" (Me-Yao) the first time Ming got to the line. By the end of the game, he was hoarse but he was still able to shout a resounding "MEOW!" It was greatly appreciated by those around him.

Sure, a few fans may be more interested in voicing negative responses to one of our players, but those fans are becoming less and less tolerated. It's about TEAM and I think Arco is getting back its thunder!

GO KINGS!!!

 

[Kingsgurl]

He he, I forgot about the Meow guy He was hilarious. A lot more fun than the guy sitting in front of us whose chair kept having that unfortunate accident with my foot.

 

[VF21]

He he, I forgot about the Meow guy He was hilarious. A lot more fun than the guy sitting in front of us whose chair kept having that unfortunate accident with my foot.

Ah, that gentleman. The one wearing the Jackson jersey who screamed "Hey, how about giving the rest of the team a chance, ball hog!" to Webber after Webb did everything to try and get rid of the ball but was apparently dealing with four guys whose feet had been temporarily stapled to the floor and finally made a last-second shot and missed. The one who wouldn't cheer until less than 6 minutes remained in the game and THEN left with over a minute on the clock. The one who kept glaring at ME and I had no idea why...(clearly nothing to do with the unfortunate foot mishap KG mentioned).

OH, and BTW??

Garlic fries at ARCO totally and completely rock!

And they're good at preventing awkward encounters with vampires. KG and I were NOT accosted by vampires after the game and, I suspect, will probably remain vampire-attackless for some time!!!

 

[1kingzfan]

The fan who loves the team unconditionally can be critical, he/she can discuss who played well and who played poorly during any given game, etc. BUT they do not feel the need to boo a player who is simply having an off-night.

I think booing is one step above throwing things...

Most definitely.

Neither this board nor any other I have read is solely a rah-rah forum. If it were, not many folks would show up and take the time to express their "uniform" positive opinions.

My original post here was for the folks that are incessantly negative (in the 90-100% of the time range) and/or those that support booing THEIR own team. I realize that the two can be mutually exclusive (but more often than not are not).

If you really wanted your team to win, and presumably that's at least part of the reason you forked out all those bucks to actually be there in the gym, why would you boo? Isn't one of the reasons to be there to CHEER your team on and perhaps participate in its success with your support?

Obviosuly, even the most soccer-momish Kings fans don't agree with everything that's going on and they have an opinion that needs to be heard. How about finding an alternate approach to booing your own during a game at Arco? There are numerous media available so that your opinion can be heard, aside from here, so why not have at that (or all of them)?

I already know the answer to that question, but I wonder if the boo-birds will admit to it.

 

[Evenstar]

. I don't know if it was heard over the TV, but in our section one gentleman cried "MEOW" (Me-Yao) the first time Ming got to the line. By the end of the game, he was hoarse but he was still able to shout a resounding "MEOW!" It was greatly appreciated by those around him.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!! oh man that is hella funny. i'm SO yelling "meow" every time i see the rockets playing. why didn't i think of that. oh that was great. i needed a good laugh thanks meow guy!!!

 

[VF21]

1kingzfan -

As you know, boo-birds tend to suddenly appear on the endangered species list when the primary object of their vocalizing does good.


I suspect they'll return when there's more grist for their little boo-mill.

 

[1kingzfan]

1kingzfan -

As you know, boo-birds tend to suddenly appear on the endangered species list when the primary object of their vocalizing does good.

I suspect they'll return when there's more grist for their little boo-mill.

VF21--

Unfortunately, you're right.

With some, the fickleness is frustrating.

With others, who are consistent bashers and naysayers, even when the person they love to hate "does good", they strip themselves of any credibility.

They are neither objective nor real fans.

 

[kgrichwine]

I intend to boo when Kevin Garnet comes out on the floor tomorrow! Am I a bad person? lol

 

[godsthename]

its because he is playing soft but for him that is a good idea because he knows he cant get hurt again.

 

[VF21]

its because he is playing soft but for him that is a good idea because he knows he cant get hurt again.

Are you referring to Webber? Playing soft? Webber has always been more of a finesse player than a bang-em-up physical brawler and I think it's a good thing. Look at his stats from last night:

22 pts, 16 boards, 7 assists

Those are pretty darn impressive and I don't think show any evidence of him "playing soft."

 

[gangdogu]

I'm sorry I'm late to respond to this, but I just got home from Sacramento...

I cannot believe how many people think that simply because they didn't hear something over the TV that it didn't happen.

I couldn't speak for nearly a whole day because I had yelled 'DE-FENSE" and so did a LOT of people.

If you aren't there, maybe you shouldn't complain about what did or didn't happen.

Dear VladeFan,

I wasn't talking about you since you were part of the screaming fans from the beginning to the end. I was talking about the other part of the crowd.

Believe it or not, theres a real difference between the DE-FENSE that you hear in the 1st quarter and the one in the fourth. Meaning like someone said earlier that the crowd only gets into the game when it's really needed.

I guess some fans are just being lazy...
We're losing the title of loudiest fans of the NBA, I guess we already lost it to the Pistons. C'mon people bring it on make yourself louder but don't do the punching stuff

 

[VF21]

Dear VladeFan,

I wasn't talking about you since you were part of the screaming fans from the beginning to the end. I was talking about the other part of the crowd.

Believe it or not, theres a real difference between the DE-FENSE that you hear in the 1st quarter and the one in the fourth. Meaning like someone said earlier that the crowd only gets into the game when it's really needed.

I guess some fans are just being lazy...
We're losing the title of loudiest fans of the NBA, I guess we already lost it to the Pistons. C'mon people bring it on make yourself louder but don't do the punching stuff

I'm sorry for being testy...

There has been a difference in the crowds, and I lay some of the blame for that at the feet of the media. But there's also the heightened expectations fans have because of the years since 1999. Fans have become used to seeing the Kings perform at an elite level, and they have. In return, the fans have become somewhat complacent, especially in the early parts of the game. On the other hand, there are still a LOT of great fans attending the games and I'm sure that as the season progresses they'll get back into the swing of things more. I think they yell more in the fourth quarter because that is, in fact, when the Kings need it the most.

Exciting, fun-to-watch basketball is still rewarded with a lot of noise. It's a symbiotic relationship. The players need to show the fans they're not just out there phoning in their performance and the fans need to show the players they'll still be there to help support them when they need it the most.

Fan bases change. The Kings fans have had a lot on their plate recently, what with the stuff about Vlade leaving, Pedja wanting to leave, the two polarized camps about Webber AND all the dissent about the arena. I think as the year progresses, you'll hear more and more of the noise you're used to!