Why Is No One Talking About Adlemans Rotation Tonight?

[Diehard Jim]

I am not really sure what Mo Evans did to get completely taken out of the rotation, or what House did but they played 6 and 4 mins respectivly.

Also Kenny Thomas only played 21 mins and Corliss 18

Mike played 44 mins and I am afraid coach is going to use him up before the season ends.

I like Adleman as a coach, but tonight was one of the nights I just don't get with him. he sees the magic going on a run and does not call a TO until it is to 10 points.

He is not playing guys for who knows what reasons. I would really love to see him play all 12 guys even if some of those guys are playing 3-4 mins.

What did Martin do to get in Adlemans dog house? How does he expect Ostertag to get used to being on the floor with these guys if he never is? when teams are more athletic like tonight with francis and nelson, why not have give Evans more than a few mins and maybe give Martin a chance to guard them?

Tonight a few key rebounds would have given the kings a chance to win on the last shot, not heaving a shot to try and tie.

I really like what I saw of Skinner tonight but he only had 5 rebounds and was outsized by 4 of there big men. I just thik that maybe giving Tag 3-4 mins tonight would have helped Skinner a bit tonight

I must add this - This trade was SUPPOSED to make the Kings deeper, Yet adleman has shortened his bench - Go Figure!

 

[Bricklayer]

The trade has also destroyed this team's continuity. Combined with the injuries, we are a complete mess right now. I see the shortened rotation tonight as an attempt to bring order to chaos and try to get things settled down more than anything else.

 

[HndsmCelt]

IN the game time thread there was plenty of compalint about RA's rotations, but honestly when you team consists of 3 starters one who is just back and 3 new palyers who have never even seen the inside of the teams practice facility, it is all gues work and vew from the cheap seats is no better tahn form the bench. Give it a name.

 

[Stojakovic]

All that needs to be said about the rotation is that Kenny Thomas needs to play more. In fact, apart from Brad he is our best big man. I don't understand why Adelman would use Skinner as a start after one game, but I suspect he wants to have a "legit" center out there in Skinner. After Brad comes back, we might see a reversal in roles between Skinner and Thomas.

 

[SacTownKid]

Foul trouble anyone??? I don't really know about MO though. He was doing a pretty good job gaurding Grant Hill.

 

[Bricklayer]

All that needs to be said about the rotation is that Kenny Thomas needs to play more. In fact, apart from Brad he is our best big man. I don't understand why Adelman would use Skinner as a start after one game, but I suspect he wants to have a "legit" center out there in Skinner. After Brad comes back, we might see a reversal in roles between Skinner and Thomas.

I was more surprised that Darius was starting over Thomas again. Skinner I understood as a backup center. But I thought Thomas had won the starting PF spot.

Like I said above, my best guess was just the idea of having guys who knew the system on the floor. Maybe too much size on the Magic frontline too?

 

[AleksandarN]

I was more surprised that Darius was starting over Thomas again. Skinner I understood as a backup center. But I thought Thomas had won the starting PF spot.

Like I said above, my best guess was just the idea of having guys who knew the system on the floor. Maybe too much size on the Magic frontline too?

He probably wanted more experience in the lineup and that is why DS started he know the team's system.

 

[LPKingsFan]

I see the shortened rotation tonight as an attempt to bring order to chaos and try to get things settled down more than anything else.

Exactly. If I recall correctly, it was at the beginning of the year when Adelman really tightened up the rotation for a bit when the Kings were in their initial funk, and they got out of it shortly after then.

 

[4cwebb]

Just be thankful that you aren't now subject to Jim O'Brien's rotation (as those of us who have followed CWebb to the Sixers are). Dalembert got 14 minutes tonight. Granted, his first quarter stint was shortened by 2 fouls in 6 minutes, but he only picked up one foul after that.

As for Adelman's rotations, I think DSong has a bit more size than KThomas (although KThomas is certainly more athletic), and DSong knows the offense better, so with Peja back tonight, it was more imperative to have a big guy in there who knew the standard movements of the offense. When Peja wasn't playing, throwing KThomas out there with Corliss almost made more sense since those two players are more familiar with each other.

 

[MotorCityKingsFan]

This is Adelman's biggest problem. He can't coach defense, terrible at player rotation, and always looking like a deer in the headlights all the time.

 

[RageMe11]

what i didn't reallt understand was the reason why adelman felt it necessary to put all the new guys in at once...they don't even know the offense yet and he puts them all in at one time, granted it only happened like 2-3 times but we went down more in those 2-3 times. Other than that, our transition D was just horrible, which resulted in bad rebounding with their quick shots. Just frustrating, hopefully when brad gets back we can have more experienced team veterans in at one time. (Can we get a break with the injuries though...geez, oh i forgot, we're the kings...god hates us. j/k)

 

[Bibby_10]

The trade has also destroyed this team's continuity. Combined with the injuries, we are a complete mess right now. I see the shortened rotation tonight as an attempt to bring order to chaos and try to get things settled down more than anything else.

Totally agree. RA doesnt want to follow Flip's footsteps of playing everyone on the Wolves and still losing(May get RA fired too). Cant really get into a rythm if players keep rotating.

 

[PFFFT!!]

What boggles my mind is that they shook the team up with Webber, Vlade, and DC gone, but Adelman and his assistants are still around. I think they might be next if they don't produce. The coaching is geared towards run-and-gun offence, and thats not possible anymore. Hell, were getting pummeled at fast-breaks and points in the paint almost every game AGAINST INFERIOR TEAMS. We barely won the two games we all celebrated, BARELY. That Washington game was a ref's call from being a loss. Ill have to see how we do against better teams like Miami to come to a conclusion. If we get pummeled by Wade and give another rookie a season high in points or rebounds, I think Ill go mad. :\

 

[iheartBrad]

The trade has also destroyed this team's continuity. Combined with the injuries, we are a complete mess right now. I see the shortened rotation tonight as an attempt to bring order to chaos and try to get things settled down more than anything else.

i agree

 

[Zyphen]

The style of play isn't as good a fit for our current lineup of players, I agree. However, considering the forwards we got and mobley's expiring contract, it's safe to say that we'll be dumping players and not the play style.

If you hire someone like Van Gundy, he'll press to trade away bibby, peja, and brad. And those 3 players are presumably who we want to keep. No coach who emphasizes defense and rebounding will want them and he'd have to be pretty desperate for a job if he gets no say in personnel. The best that can be hoped for is a respectable performance from our trade bait so that we can acquire defensive role players in the summer.

Adelman is still around because the players we are to rebuild with are suited to his system. He shouldn't adjust his system to fit players who aren't going to be here for long. If they can't adjust to the system, all the more reason for them to leave. I think this is good for seeing who we can actually use (if any). Coaches should make an effort to adjust to franchise players, not role-players waiting for the axe in the offseason. If somehow, Petrie can't find some good passing defenders (scoring a bonus, not necessary) for SG and PF, then maybe Adelman should go and a full rebuild is in order.

 

[bigbadred00]

PFFFT! With all the changes were not a superior team, atleast not yet. We have had way too many injuries, way too little number of practices, and way too many player turnovers (trades) to think we are a superior team right now. No team can take this kind of changeover and make it work immediately. I don't expect Adelman, or the Kings to be any different. It's going to take time. And if Skinner and company show up like they have lately I definitely think with the team gelling there is a whole lot of room for improvement on the teams part. Just imagine right now were close to the bottom. We get Brad back, we get the guys to practice, we get the guys to gel we could be a good team. We're probally a first round exit team this year with the west so strong but next year we can definitely make a dent with the Roster we have this year. Then again with Mid-Season trades which seemed to have gone in a different direction, you can't expect much more. It's not like we traded Ostertag for Lebron or something.

 

[bigbadred00]

We're putting up 100+ and we can't pass, we can't defend. Just imagine when the team gels, the passing gets normalized, and the defence strengthens (only go up), then we will start winning the right way again. Honestly this year I've gotten way too many "ulcers" from either late minute come backs or late minute messups. We need some consistancy and we have rarely gotten it this year, which is no suprise with the huge team turnover from last year. We went from a Veteran Group with a Veteran Bench, to a Veteran Starting Lineup and a Young Bench to a New Starting Lineup and a Young Bench. Transistions are the toughest part of adjusting, we are just adjusting and it is going to take time.

 

[KP]

What boggles my mind is that they shook the team up with Webber, Vlade, and DC gone, but Adelman and his assistants are still around. I think they might be next if they don't produce. The coaching is geared towards run-and-gun offence, and thats not possible anymore. Hell, were getting pummeled at fast-breaks and points in the paint almost every game AGAINST INFERIOR TEAMS. We barely won the two games we all celebrated, BARELY. That Washington game was a ref's call from being a loss. Ill have to see how we do against better teams like Miami to come to a conclusion. If we get pummeled by Wade and give another rookie a season high in points or rebounds, I think Ill go mad. :\

I'll be going mad too, but it won't have anything to do with Adelman, If this team goes into a talespin it will be because there isn't as much talent on the floor anymore. This is what people said they wanted, I was watching the game last night and at one point I was like who the hell are all these guys, and what did they do with the Kings? The core of this team has been pulled apart, granted it's been piece by peice... but hey, We got more athletic! Yay!

 

[thenewdustdust]

Adelman's roation has always been a major major question mark for me. When the team suffers on interior defense and rebounding, Adleman just lays back and watches the Kings play. If he doesn't produce this season, he MUST go!

 

[KP]

Adelman's roation has always been a major major question mark for me. When the team suffers on interior defense and rebounding, Adleman just lays back and watches the Kings play. If he doesn't produce this season, he MUST go!

lol.

 

[thenewdustdust]

For people like KP here, Webber was a defensive liability since his injury. Adelman has had multiple chances to take the Kings to the playoffs. Some just say that people asked for less talent, but they obviously never do their homework. And even though the core of this team has been pulled apart, the Kings got deeper and better defensively. If Adelman actually PLAYED HIS BENCH for a decent amount of minutes, I can almost guarantee that the team will play much MUCH better.

 

[Bricklayer]

I can almost guarantee that the team will play much MUCH better.

Well if you guarantee it, in the face of the lengthy NBA histories of these particular players no less, then that's obviously good enough for me.