Why do people still think Geoff petrie is some kind of genius?

[mac]

Many smart people think Geoff ha done a subpar job. And thinking that he has done anything better than average over the last 10 years, is blindsighted or delusional.

I must say he isnt the worst GM of all time, but over the last 10 years or o, he hasn't been great and he hasn't been woeful.

I agree. My "intelligence" comment was more directed at his weak substantiation combined with his Trade Tyreke thread.

 

[VF21]

Even after all these years, it never fails to amaze me how far some will go to try and stir up some kind of controversy.

The horse is not only dead, its body has been feasted upon by numerous eaters of carrion, its bones have been ground to dust and its name is a mere memory on the winds. I guess the real question is...

Why do people even bother to respond to this kind of drivel?

Answer:

It's TDOS.

 

[Amory]

Even after all these years, it never fails to amaze me how far some will go to try and stir up some kind of controversy.

The horse is not only dead, its body has been feasted upon by numerous eaters of carrion, its bones have been ground to dust and its name is a mere memory on the winds. I guess the real question is...

Why do people even bother to respond to this kind of drivel?

Answer:

It's TDOS.

TDOS is a sad time.

/sigh

 

[King Baller]

let me go over each of these one by one.

I think you're forgetting how angry kingsland was at c-webb and the team at this point, they were one missed shot from running him out of town with torches and pitchforks. At the time we dumped webb and his massive contract (which,albeit, would have been off the books a little sooner than k9), it was for moveable pieces (who were we to question the virtue of trading for three undersized power forwards?). Hindsight is 20/20 but honestly, what other offers were we getting for the bionic knee?

The kings under peja were listless, boring, and, to put it bluntly, going nowhere fast. Once we traded him for artest, we somehow ended up in the playoffs. Now, i don't know if it was worth the headaches and all but at least we did get the better end of the trade (indiana got peja for half a season, after which he walked off to new orleans where he earned a massive contract and then promptly broke his back. We, on the other hand, got ron ron for two seasons and then promptly dumped him off to the rockets for bobby jackson (fan favorite brought in for nostalgia purposes), donte greene (who has shown flashes of being a defensive stopper/good sidekick to reke), and omri. The rockets got one season out of ron, after which he left them to play dennis rodman in hollywood)

when bibby got injured, some guy named beno came out of nowhere and strung together a stretch of games that made him look like our potential pg of the future. As a result, mike became expendable as he was a. Getting old (it's painful watching the hawks games because he's so..old) and b. Pretty darn expensive (this was pre-beno, but i'll get to that in a second). Now trading him for an undersized pf who was getting by based on college accolades (kinda like sean may only with the buffet) and tyron lue and anthony johnson can perhaps be questioned but this can really be seen as our first major move of rebuilding (dump salary, acquire young talent [whether the talent pans out or not is another matter]).

Yes, this move can be seen as pretty stupid. He failed an nj physical and we signed him anyways. That being said, his first year of being in sacramento went pretty good (hell, i even admired him for being able to play through a broken jaw). Once his knees fell apart, it was all down hill. Luckily, we got the insurance coverage where it didn't hit us in the cap so, technically, no harm done.

I agree that this was a bad move. Not really sure what geoff had seen in mikki that would warrant the mle. Maybe it was the dreds, maybe it was the generic stat-lines of nothing, maybe it was the exuberance exhibited whenever mikki did something he should have been able to do anyways.

I blame the clippers. No, honestly. They wanted him. (they also wanted baron davis. I'm not sure what the timeline was on this thing) we really really wanted beno so we dropped the bigbucks on him. He accepted. He sucked. We hated him. Tyreke shows up. He doesn't suck. There is much rejoicing.

You must remember that at this point in time, we were still generally competitive and what potential playoff team doesn't want a good shooter. He apparently had a legendary pre-draft workout (according to chuckles, the best he's ever seen shooting-wise). Now making the shots in an actual game was another matter. Does that rectify this move? Not at all. Does geoff petrie like people who can shoot? Yes.


I think you use the word bust too lightly. Jamarcus russel and ryan leaf? Busts. Jt and spence are both serviceable bigmen. Are they shaq or dwight howard? No but then again no one really is, that's what makes those bigs special.


Remeber that gw was pretty much rotting on the bench. Sure he could dunk but other than that, his biggest talent was keeping the chairs nice and warm for webb and the other guys who actually mattered. Does that make the bitter taste of seeing him become an all-star go away? Hell no. But i can see why we would do it. We were in win now mode and wallace was in slow-developing mode.

Hedo was a nice part of our team. That being said, he was the integral piece in getting brad miller, who was an all-star his first two seasons here and essentially tearing it up (of course, this was at the point where he still gave a damn). I should also add that while hedo is a good, solid player, he is also paid far more than he should be.




Gee. Picking up that tyreke evans scrub sure was a terrible move and then giving away kevin martin for carl landry and capspace. Terrible. Absolutely terrible. He also wasted a pick on some scrawny israeli loser when he should have obviously picked maynor.

+1

kb

 

[bajaden]

When people discuss genius, the associated job that comes to mind for me isn't sports management. I'll just leave it at that. Also,

Does this mean that you don't put him up there with Steven Hawkings?

 

[Chupacabra]

This thread marks the official arrival of......TDOS!!!!

 

[Big Cuz 15]

lemme just recap his moves in the last five or six seasons:

traded away Chris Webber for a bunch of bums, including Kenny Thomas' ridiculous contract.

traded Peja for Ron Ron

Traded Bibby for sheldon williams

overpaid for injury riddled SAR

overpaid for Mikke Moore

overpaid Beno

drafted Quincy Douby nuff said

drafted Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson, two busts

failed to retain guys like Gerald Wallace and Hedo

as you can see his list of failures keeps getting longer and longer....

can you blame the guy? i don't think all his moves were really "his". did you see the hiring of the past 2 head coaches before westphal? hint, powerpoint presentation, fat book written on nba..


i don't think hawes/thompson are busts for the draft position they were picked at. big men tend to take longer to develop. worst case is we have 2 very serviceable big men at the 4/5.

 

[Prince_XY]

Why do people still think Geoff petrie is some kind of genius?

Who are those people?

Maybe I've seen one or two posters in this board who thought before that Petrie was already a genius for assembling Kings teams that have not reached the NBA FINALS and for sucking for several years now. But I think those two are either Petrie's wife, or children, or worse they are people who's IQ is comparable to yours.

How did you come up with an idea of letting go of Evans who averaged 20/5/5, MVP of the rookie/sophomore game, and recently earned the rookie of the year award?

You better think harder before posting my friend.

 

[LilMissDiva]

I have a friend who hates carrots. Absolutely despises them. Like to the extent that he'll pick the little shredded carrots out of cole slaw. I just don't get it. I mean, I don't go running after the carrot truck when it comes down the street, but I just can't see what's so objectionable about them. Crunchy, a little bit sweet with a vegetable-y taste...which seems pretty normal seeing as they're vegetables. It's not as if he doesn't like other vegetables, it's just carrots. Weird.

Interesting.

I'm that way with string beans. But the funny thing is I'll only eat them if they are slightly steamed. If they are mixed in any foods I'll pick them out, or if they are too overcooked I won't touch them.

 

[FullAB]

I have a friend who hates carrots. Absolutely despises them. Like to the extent that he'll pick the little shredded carrots out of cole slaw. I just don't get it. I mean, I don't go running after the carrot truck when it comes down the street, but I just can't see what's so objectionable about them. Crunchy, a little bit sweet with a vegetable-y taste...which seems pretty normal seeing as they're vegetables. It's not as if he doesn't like other vegetables, it's just carrots. Weird.

True enlightenment resides in those who employ the option of placing the blame on the carrot.....

 

[Kingfanpaul]

I like Petrie a lot and think he has done a great job. One of the best GMs in the league. With that said it sure seems like a bunch of people here say Geoff did a great job when something went right and when something went wrong it was the Maloofs pressuring him. How do any of you really know what the Maloofs have or have not done? I'm not saying everyone here is saying things like that, I just see it a lot.

 

[Smills91]

How does being a non-American Kings make a difference in knowing the Kings' transaction history?

Im from Australia, and yes I do know that Hedo was traded and yes I do know about other transaction activities involving the kings.

Im sorry but this comment is just plain ignorant.

By non-american, I think he meant 'european'. At least I don't consider Australia to be 'non-american', now Europe.....I'll leave that alone.

 

[jalfa]

By non-american, I think he meant 'european'. At least I don't consider Australia to be 'non-american', now Europe.....I'll leave that alone.

Yeah, that attitude is a lot better... Why exactly is this thread still open?

 

[Spike]

By non-american, I think he meant 'european'. At least I don't consider Australia to be 'non-american', now Europe.....I'll leave that alone.

Wouldn't you say that Australia is more British than the US?

 

[Rookie]

Is Australia a continent or a country? Both?

Is there any other county in Australia?

 

[SacKings7]

New Zealand probably counts as part of the continent Australia, but Australia itself is a country. I dunno..

Anyway yeah, why is this thread still open? The OP was obviously a troll. Pretty hard to be pleased with your GM when you focus on all the bad moves (even though Peja for Ron was a good move IMO) and none of the good ones.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

I like Petrie a lot and think he has done a great job. One of the best GMs in the league. With that said it sure seems like a bunch of people here say Geoff did a great job when something went right and when something went wrong it was the Maloofs pressuring him. How do any of you really know what the Maloofs have or have not done? I'm not saying everyone here is saying things like that, I just see it a lot.

well i don't know.. maybe grant said on the air that it was a maloof hiring decision when muss came on board. they were filled with glimpes of mike bibby pressing full court when that is not really in his capabilities. "defense wins championships", we almost had a wnba coach as adelman's replacement. do you remember any of this or just a casual fan?

 

[Bricklayer]

sigh.

Ok.