Why didn't O-Tag play?

[nAj jAn™]

Was he injured? Or back in the Adelman's junkyard???

Only 7 man rotation?! All the starters played 37 mins above....and only two subs! Are the Kings players suspended or anything? It's like they were the Pacers, with only 7 man suited in the game.....

What's up with Adelman???

 

[SacTownKid]

He was too relaxed in the back of bench row. They didn't want to wake him up.

 

[GoSACtown]

i really dont know why he didnt play, did anybody notice if he was dressed ? im guessing if Foyle played, Tag woulda played too

 

[SacTownKid]

He was dressed but was sitting way back behind the bench. He looked ready to go to me.

 

[VF21]

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[VF21]

Tag isn't in the doghouse. He just didn't match up well at all against a very quick GS team. They weren't driving inside for their shots, which is when Tag excels. It was their perimeter shooting that killed us and Tag couldn't have been much help. Better to keep people with more offense on the court...

At least that's my best guess of the reasoning.

 

[KP]

Bad Matchups

Webb was the biggest guy on the court besides B-mill thats why Tag didn't play... Bad Matchups.

 

[SacTownKid]

I think we can throw that bad matchup idea out the window, b/c everytime Adelman matches up we lose. Otag is a good defender and rebounder, bottom line, I don't care if he's playing Spud.

And those 4-5 altered shots inside that he would have caused could have been the difference maker.

 

[eflat]

I don't always "get" the whole matchup thing with respect to 'Tag. Does he really suck in so many other ways that having him take up some room for a few minutes and contest some shots would've been of *no* benefit?

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't always "get" the whole matchup thing with respect to 'Tag. Does he really suck in so many other ways that having him take up some room for a few minutes and contest some shots would've been of *no* benefit?

I certainly don't think so.

the only guys I would be reluctant to put Tag in against are the Brian Cook sort of three point shooting big men -- don't want Tag out that far trying to guard somebody, and if he's at the three point line he can't help with shotblocking either. But everyone else...just play the guy!

Tag's one of those defensive players that makes a difference for EVERY other member of the Kings -- makes everybody better with his shotblocking. So I don't think the only consideration should be his one on one matchup. There should be a presumption that we want Tag in there to help everybody else, and the only reason we DON'T put him in is if the matchup is just impossible (guarding a SF or something).

 

[SacTownKid]

Another thing, do Webb and Miller match up any better then Otag would??? I mean thats what the real issue is.


I would say absolutely NOT!

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

I find myself increasingly disgusted with the whole "matchup" paradigm. The Kings were an elite team once, and are still, the last ten days or so notwithstanding, one of the better teams in the league; they should be trying to make teams match up with them, not the other way around.

 

[6th]

I find myself increasingly disgusted with the whole "matchup" paradigm. The Kings were an elite team once, and are still, the last ten days or so notwithstanding, one of the better teams in the league; they should be trying to make teams match up with them, not the other way around.

WORD!!

I have often wondered why we are not more pro-active than re-active.

 

[HndsmCelt]

My take on the whole "match up" issue isthat way too much is made of it by coaces in general, but then again they do seem to all play that way so my opinion is probably none ooo valualbe. The thing that people have to remember with Tag is that playing him has a huge cost. Tag bring zero offense so if he is in that means that Darius, Miller or Webber are out. Tonight Darius brought almost zero so playing Tag down the streach might have made sense, but in general if the match up is small and fast putting Tag in will cost you offense and what he brings in defense could in theory be handled by Webb or Miller. Tonight in the fourth was probably the exception to the rule beceause neither Brad nor Webb were doing a great job of closing the paint and Darius did not bring squat.

 

[scarlet_steph]

I find myself increasingly disgusted with the whole "matchup" paradigm. The Kings were an elite team once, and are still, the last ten days or so notwithstanding, one of the better teams in the league; they should be trying to make teams match up with them, not the other way around.

So true funny how it seems....always in time, but never in line for dreams...

Seriously, Slim, you took the words right out of my brain. Kings shouldn't adjust to them...they should adjust to the Kings.

 

[Kev.in]

Adelman has always been passive and reactionary in dealing with matchup issues. It's very frustrating because basketball is all about matchups! I remember the Suns playing small against us back when they had Kidd and killing us with three point shooting. Adelman was scared to use Webber at center, so he'd stick with Webber/Vlade/Pollard at the 4/5 instead of using Hedo to match up with Cliff Robinson/Rodney Rogers. That's just one recurring instance. There are a dozen other examples of us getting abused by all types of matchup issues. On the other hand, we've rarely ever seen Adelman's Kings set out to force a tough matchup and when we have it's usually been because injuries forced an altered starting lineup.

It'd be one thing if using Ostertag meant breaking the rotation, but that's not the case. He gets minutes, but they're inconsistent. So not only are we at the mercy of the matchup, but Adelman isn't consistent. You've got to do one or the other. Some teams consistently use the same 8 or 9 guys, regardless of matchups (the small Suns) and other teams have a more fluid rotation (Memphis and Dallas). We don't fall into either category and it's starting to tick me off. Once again, Petrie has supplied a player that fills a need and that player isn't getting a chance to do his thing.