Noah makes over $13 million next season. Even if Chicago would accept a trade of Ben straight up that would mean the Kings would have zero cap room left to sign anyone else.
Who do you want the Kings to Draft at #6?
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Noah makes over $13 million next season. Even if Chicago would accept a trade of Ben straight up that would mean the Kings would have zero cap room left to sign anyone else.
ockingsfan
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More and more Mock drafts have WCS going to Orlando at #5. Mudiay seems to be sliding to the Kings at #6 in a lot of Mocks.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2015-nba-mock-draft--take-3-032239830.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/2015-nba-mock-draft--take-3-032239830.html
LPKingsFan
All-Star
That's just Givony from DraftExpress moonlighting on yahoo, but interesting nonetheless. Given carmichael dave's strong position that the Kings won't take Mudiay, I'd guess they'd take Winslow in this scenario. Or maybe trade down--might be a team that buys into the Mudiay hype that overpays for what a 6th pick normally can garner.
kingsboi
Hall of Famer
The sooner we accept that Cauley Stein will be drafted before the Kings pick, the better off we as fans will be. It really feels like Noah/Hawes all over again doesn't it? Could of got that defensive stud but he just happened to go a pick or two before it was our term. That's why you need to have your second option in your pocket and look for defense either with a forward or try to trade for one.
ockingsfan
Starter
There is a lot of smoke blowing right now in all NBA front offices.
I really don't see why there is such a strong stance against Mudiay, unless the Kings are trying to lower the chance that someone jumps ahead of them to take him.
He was a consensus top 4 pick, if he slides to #6, I think the Kings would take him and then sign a big man free agent like Kosta Koufos to play center and slide DMC to Power Forward (where DMC seems to want to play more of).
jcwkings
All-Star
I don't see how people view Mudiaye as a "project". He's as much a project as Tyreke was his rookie year, he is physically ready and will instantly be able to come off the bench and provide a change of pace and dynamic play from the backcourt. Especially in Karl's system he can instantly come in and push the pace. I can easily see a traditional first unit with Collison, Ben?, Gay, ?, Cousins play a traditional offense ran through Cousins and then a second unit spearheaded by Mudiaye. You could actually play Mudiay and Ray Mac together in the second unit as a physical bully dual pg that push the pace with Casspi, JT and Stauskas.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Tyreke had a special gift and proved himself in the workouts leading up that draft by just destroying the PG competition in workout after workout. Since Mudiaye hasn't ever played against anyone and barely even played in China I suspect that he needs some sort of similar tangible workout performances to make people more confident he's ready. Its harder this year though. Tyreke's year was the year of the PG, so tons of them to work out against. this year Mudiaye only has a couple of possible, and not all of them are going to want to risk their draft position.
jcwkings
All-Star
I just think he can have the same type of Impact Tyreke had as a rookie in a backup/rotation role. Whether he ends up developing into a star that runs the team down the line? Who knows, certainly not right away, that's why it's nice having Collison.
Mudiaye and Tyreke have almost identical attributes and question marks as draft prospects, unfortunately for Tyreke he has pretty much stayed the same player since he was drafted. A very good one but one with clear flaws and a tough puzzle piece to fit into your system(he clearly needs the ball, but you cannot trust him to run the team fully and basketball IQ wise he is average at best). This is where I think Mudiaye has an advantage as a prospect, he seems to have a higher ceiling as a far as his feel for the game goes. His jumper isn't broken, just needs to put in the man hours to become competent/consistent.
Basically with Tyreke we were hoping we had hit the jackpot with the next Rose, Westbrook, we didn't and Curry was obviously the better choice. With the pieces we have now, if we can get Mudiaye to be Tyreke and just inject the game with speed and power that is great. Then we hope the rest of his game develops over time.
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OptimusRhyme
Jive Turkey
I agree that Manny Mud can possibly have a similar impact as Rookie Reke. I also agree that his potential is higher then Reke's.. Manny knows hes a PG.. He already has the IQ and feel for that position, he just needs too build on it. Unlike Reke who always seemed to be caught between learning the 1 and 2, which i think hindered his development a bit.
That video is useless for evaluating NBA PG, projected as an elite starter: he can dunk and make some shots. Everybody knew that already.
He doesn't look crisp moving sideways with the ball/not shifty.
Mudiay didn't get to FT line a lot in China - just .32 2ptFGA/FTA rate, same as Jennings had in Italy. Not a good sign given the big difference in level of competition. Low level guards from NBA like Will Bynum or Errick Mccollum got much better FT rates in China this year.
He doesn't look crisp moving sideways with the ball/not shifty.
Mudiay didn't get to FT line a lot in China - just .32 2ptFGA/FTA rate, same as Jennings had in Italy. Not a good sign given the big difference in level of competition. Low level guards from NBA like Will Bynum or Errick Mccollum got much better FT rates in China this year.
Obviously dunking and shooting jumpers in an open gym doesn't tell you much, but that's what all these prospect videos are. I posted it mostly because of the interview part.
For those who haven't already seen this...
Thanks for clarifying
I agree his ability to change direction quickly isn't at all impressive for a PG but I saw him get to the rim like crazy in the CBA anyway mostly by attacking with his quick first step and using hesitation moves to throw the defender off balance.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
The more I see and watch of Mudiay, the less I want him. He isn't NBA ready at all and I think he will have a tough adjustment going from the CBA to the NBA. He possesses no elite skill, and that will limit him. He can't lead a team right now and at PG, I want a veteran. It is such an essential position that we can't afford to give the keys to a kid. I would much rather draft WCS (if available) or Porzingis, if those 2 aren't there, then trade it away for a vet (either SG or PF).
Nikolizzle
G-League
If WCS is off the board, i'm leaning toward Winslow and playing Rudy at the 4.
Boo
ockingsfan
Starter
Mudiay looks slow with his movements and shots in the video. I was expecting to see more explosiveness in his movement.
I think Porzingis looks way better in his workout video than Mudiay in his.
OptimusRhyme
Jive Turkey
tbh- I was kinda disapointed aswell... Out of all the workout vids i've seen so far, Porzingis has impressed me the most..Dude is a freak of nature.. He could be sick beside DMC..
ParniValjak
All-Star
I can almost guarantee that Mudiay will not be drafted by us regardless of whether he is available or not. I think the options are
1. Draft Willie Cauley Stein
2. Draft Justise Winslow
3. Trade the pick
Maybe Payne or something similar if we choose to trade down but we will be looking for players that will have immediate impact.
1. Draft Willie Cauley Stein
2. Draft Justise Winslow
3. Trade the pick
Maybe Payne or something similar if we choose to trade down but we will be looking for players that will have immediate impact.
I have a hard time with Winslow. I like him a lot and loved watching him grow in the tournament but what's the pathway to stardom for him? I just don't see one which means he's likely going to be a very nice roleplayer. And unfortunately a roleplayer either at SF (where we have Gay) or at SG (where we spent our last two draft picks) and that just doesn't excite me.
I was very much against drafting Porzingis but if Cauley-Stein is gone and Mudiay is either gone or really not someone the Kings like then I wonder if Porzingis is the guy.
Hansel
Bench
My choices right now (considering Towns Okafor Russell as the top3 picks):
1. Draft Cauley-Stein, if available
2. Draft Porzingis, if available
3. Hezonja or Mudiay (not sure here)
Definetly not Winslow.
Iced Espresso
Starter
I think Porzingis bumped Winslow for me.
I'm fine with either WCS or Porzingis right now.
I'm fine with either WCS or Porzingis right now.
