Who do you want at #7? And who will slide?

#1
Did this a couple years ago IIRC. Interesting to see who people would be happy/unhappy with.



First round:

Would be happy with: Leonard, Fredette, Singleton, Vesely, Kanter (let's limit the happy side to 5). This is in no particular order, and I'm taking into consideration the [unlikely] chance that someone like Kanter unexpectedly slides to us.

Unhappy with: Either of the Morris twins. Luke warm on Klay Thompson.




Second round:

There are too many guys I'd be happy with here. Jimmy Butler, Selby, Goudelock, Cole, Mirotic, Shumpert, Vucevic, Bertans, Tyler.

Obviously it's difficult to know for sure since there will likely be trades on the night. Add to that the uncertain draft outcome and it's even harder.

Finally, who do people think are going to slide? Happened to Whiteside and Orton last year, as many predicted. I think Valanciunas might fall further than expected, especially with his contract situation. Other candidates include Marcus Morris, Motiejunas, Biyombo and Burks.
 
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#2
Did this a couple years ago IIRC. Interesting to see who people would be happy/unhappy with.



First round:

Would be happy with: Leonard, Fredette, Singleton, Vesely, Kanter (let's limit the happy side to 5). This is in no particular order, and I'm taking into consideration the [unlikely] chance that someone like Kanter unexpectedly slides to us.

Unhappy with: Either of the Morris twins. Luke warm on Klay Thompson.




Second round:

There are too many guys I'd be happy with here. Jimmy Butler, Selby, Goudelock, Cole, Mirotic, Shumpert, Vucevic, Bertans, Tyler.

Obviously it's difficult to know for sure since there will likely be trades on the night. Add to that the uncertain draft outcome and it's even harder.

Finally, who do people think are going to slide? Happened to Whiteside and Orton last year, as many predicted. I think Valanciunas might fall further than expected, especially with his contract situation. Other candidates include Marcus Morris, Motiejunas, Biyombo and Burks.
Hoping Knight slides to 7. I will be unhappy taking any SF at 7. We still have 2 young SF that need to step up. But SF/SG are the easiest positions to pick up as free agents/D league.

Darius Morris in the 2nd round.
 
#3
Hoping Knight slides to 7. I will be unhappy taking any SF at 7. We still have 2 young SF that need to step up. But SF/SG are the easiest positions to pick up as free agents/D league.

Darius Morris in the 2nd round.

Knight would be my number one option. I just don't see any way he falls to 7.
 
#4
I guess I'd be ok with Fredette, Walker and Tristan Thompson at 7. Just to make it 5 I'll go with Knight (#1 choice) and Kanter, but they'll both be gone. I don't really know much about the other college players expected to be available by then, like Leonard, and I know absolutely nothing about the international players
 
#6
Walker or Burks are my top 2. I'd be totally cool with taking a shot on Valanciunas or Biyombo. I wouldn't really be excited about Thompson, Singleton or Fredette, but they'd be okay picks. I don't want Brandon Knight even if he did slide somehow.

2nd round? Jimmy Butler, Charles Jenkins, Nikola Mirotic, Darius Morris, Davis Bertans, Norris Cole, John Leuer
 
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#9
Since there isn't one single player projected to be there at 7 who seems like a perfect fit, I'm going with my gut and it says Jimmer. He seems like he'd be an exciting player, the type that fans could really like and this franchise could use that right now. He's supposed to be an excellent shooter too which is something else they could use. As for who might fall, I'm not sure. The top 4 or 5 seems pretty set. I don't see Irving, Williams, Kanter, or Knight falling but anyone else could.
 
#10
I've said before the season ended, out of this draft, I want Kanter to complete our frontline of the future. But the chances of this happening is slim to none now that we slipped to 7th. I still think 7 is too high to draft Jimmer at.

If Tyreke is to play the 2 from now on, I think Beno is the perfect fit already. Maybe we can get a quality back up PG in the 2nd round. If we can't get an elite to slip, I realistically want Leonard because we do not have a lock down defender on our team for the perimeter. At the same time, I haven't seen enough of Leonard. At #7, you either gamble to get a potential star or a solid player with no star potential. The potential star might become a bust.
 
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#11
An ideal draft for me would go like this: draft Jimmer at #7 and then trade Beno (I don't think the addition of Casspi is needed here, but if it is, then I'd be open to it) to the Wizards for their #18 pick or the Wolves for #20 and pick up Jordan Hamilton to fill that SF hole. Wolves would likely be more interested in Casspi over Beno with Rubio and Ridnour on the roster, and at that point you would probably have to add value to that offer. But between Jimmer and Jordan, you would be making a pretty great stride to solve the issue of our tremendously terrible 3-pt shooting while adding more athleticism at their positions to boot.

If we could somehow make a play for a higher pick in the low to mid-teens to get Chris Singleton instead of Hamilton, that would be an incredible draft. Won't hold my breath though.

I see Biyombo sliding now that it's apparent that he's so incredibly raw offensively. It will be up to a team to determine if he has that same drive to improve that Ibaka has displayed during his short time in the league.
 
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#12
I've said before the season ended, out of this draft, I want Kanter to complete our frontline of the future. But the chances of this happening is slim to none now that we slipped to 7th. I still think 7 is too high to draft Jimmer at.

If Tyreke is to play the 2 from now on, I think Beno is the perfect fit already. Maybe we can get a quality back up PG in the 2nd round. If we can't get an elite to slip, I realistically want Leonard because we do not have a lock down defender on our team for the perimeter. At the same time, I haven't seen enough of Leonard. At #7, you either gamble to get a potential star or a solid player with no star potential. The potential star might become a bust.
Why do you want to move Reke to the 2? People need to stop obsessing with positions. Tyreke is our main ball handler. You start Thornton next to him cause he can spread the floor, shoot the lights out, and can also penetrate very well. Beno comes off the bench and I think that's a great trio.
 
#13
Why do you want to move Reke to the 2? People need to stop obsessing with positions. Tyreke is our main ball handler. You start Thornton next to him cause he can spread the floor, shoot the lights out, and can also penetrate very well. Beno comes off the bench and I think that's a great trio.
Totally agree with everything said here. And if you switch out Beno for Jimmer, you would have a 3-guard rotation with potential to become one of the deadliest in the entire league. Nearly every offensive scenario would be covered by that rotation. Bring back Jermaine Taylor or a defensive minded veteran 2-guard to serve in that 10th man role and you would be in a pretty good place.
 
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#14
Why do you want to move Reke to the 2? People need to stop obsessing with positions. Tyreke is our main ball handler. You start Thornton next to him cause he can spread the floor, shoot the lights out, and can also penetrate very well. Beno comes off the bench and I think that's a great trio.

I never said I WANT reke to play the 2. But if the rumors coming out is true, the Kings are looking for a PG. Thats why I said IF Tyreke is going to play the 2. Because its not up to you or me. Its going to be up to the coaches and GP.

Ideally, Reke develops better PG skills somehow during the off season and remains our PG. I loved that idea of having a 6'6" PG in 09 and I still do. But the truth is the offense does get very stagnant at times when Reke is running point.

We can go on and on about who is responsible (coaches with no game plan and offensive sets, other players not knowing the plays, players not hitting shots). But whatever it is, it needs to be fixed. If it doesn't get fixed, Beno is the only true PG on the team taller than 6 feet.

I like Beno next to Reke because he is a true PG and he doesn't mind letting Reke shine. I like Thornton a lot, but there just isn't enough shots to go around to start him and Reke together. As an undersized 2 guard, its best for Thornton to come of the bench and aim to win the 6th man of the year award.
 

Spike

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#15
First Round:
Happy: Kanter, Knight, Fredette, maybe even Vesely
Unhappy: Walker, Klay Thompson
Sliders: Valanciunas (contract), Motiejunas (not a good camp)

Second Round:
Happy/Sliders?: Marshon Brooks, Selby (ha!), N. Smith, anyone who totally slid out of the first like Whiteside
Unhappy: Tyler - maybe he's learned his lesson, but I don't want a kid who left high school after his Junior year.
 
#16
Beno might be a better distributor right now than Evans but I'd like to know what about his game makes you consider him to be a TRUE point guard?
 
#17
First Round:
Happy: Kanter, Knight, Fredette, maybe even Vesely
Unhappy: Walker, Klay Thompson
Sliders: Valanciunas (contract), Motiejunas (not a good camp)

Second Round:
Happy/Sliders?: Marshon Brooks, Selby (ha!), N. Smith, anyone who totally slid out of the first like Whiteside
Unhappy: Tyler - maybe he's learned his lesson, but I don't want a kid who left high school after his Junior year.
Why the "ha" after Selby?
 
#18
Kemba is the player who I would be excited to watch and hope we get. Strange though, I don't feel as strong about specific players like I have in the past. I think it is because of how much I liked the last few drafts.
 

hrdboild

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#20
Williams, Irving, Knight, and Kanter look like they're a level above everyone else. If any of them slip to 7 that's my first choice. After that, I think the next 8 guys are all pretty even overall, but I do have preferences.

Guys I would like: Tristan Thompson, Chris Singleton, Bismack Biyombo, Alec Burks (in that order)
Guys I'm lukewarm on: Kemba Walker, Jimmer Fredette, Kawhi Leonard, Jonas Valanciunas (basically everyone we're projected to pick)

So I guess that leaves everyone else as picks I would not like: Jan Vesely, Marcus Morris, Donatas Motiejunas, Klay Thompson, etc

In the second round there isn't anyone I dislike. It's basically a shot in the dark to find someone who's going to stick anyway. I'd be happy if we got Nikola Mirotic, Norris Cole, or Josh Selby.
 
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#23
I think if we pick Leonard, its pretty clear that we would be done with either Donte Green, Omri, Francisco...maybe 2 of the 3 even. I do like Leonard, though. I'd be cool with either him if it's apparent that we aren't scoring a proven vet at the SF position. Ideally I'd like to get Jimmer in the 1st, and Selby with our first pick in the 2nd.
 
#24
With me it's not who I want but who will Petrie pick. That's who I want. It's not that I haven't read web site info on most all these players and read a lot on this site. I want who Petrie is going select and I don't envy him the job. With all the candidates and what they do or don't have to offer we can only pick one. Tough job but I think Petrie is up for it.
 
#25
Five guys? I have a hard time just coming up with one. The five that I truly wanted the Kings to draft went back to college. Sigh.

Guys that would not pee me off if they end up a King: Jimmer, Burks, Jordan Hamilton, Leonard.

Guys that would pee me off: Singleton, Motiejontas, Jan Vesely, Derrick Williams.
 
#26
Five guys? I have a hard time just coming up with one. The five that I truly wanted the Kings to draft went back to college. Sigh.

Guys that would not pee me off if they end up a King: Jimmer, Burks, Jordan Hamilton, Leonard.

Guys that would pee me off: Singleton, Motiejontas, Jan Vesely, Derrick Williams.

Five guys is just the limit (although no one has to stick to it!). You can give as few or as many as you want.

You don't have to worry about us drafting any of the guys on your "unhappy" list, except perhaps Vesely. And I wouldn't bet on him being the pick, either.
 
#27
Five guys is just the limit (although no one has to stick to it!). You can give as few or as many as you want.

You don't have to worry about us drafting any of the guys on your "unhappy" list, except perhaps Vesely. And I wouldn't bet on him being the pick, either.

It'd really make my day if the Kings trade this pick for some lottery bound team's next year's pick. I heard Cleveland is looking for another first. Hmm.... Even the #14 pick in next year's draft is better this year's #7. Heck, the #14 pick next year is likely better than this year's #5. I know it won't happen but it's better than pondering this year's weak crops.

There are only three guys who I think has borderline star potential, not stars but just short of being stars, - Irving, Kanter (only because he's a big) and Jimmer (only if he make the switch to PG). But it'll still take a lot of work for them to get there. The rest are role players/specialists/journeymen. Yawn.
 
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#29
First Round: Fredette PG, Vesely SF, Marcus Morris SF

-Fredette: I expect him to replace and be better than Beno.

-Vesely: his floor is Donte Greene. Vesely is probably already a better finisher, shooter, defender and athlete.

-Marcus Morris: I think he can play full time SF who can hit the three. He'll be better than Greene too.


Second Round: Chandler Parsons SF, Jimmy Butler SF. Kalin Lucas PG

-Chandler Parsons: less athletic Lamar Odom. can pass, shoot, dribble and REBOUND.

-Jimmy Butler: Perfect role player to play off of Tyreke, Thornton and Cousins.

-Kalin Lucas: Would be nice at 60. Definitely much better than Pooh Jeter.
 
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#30
Would anybody consider taking Jon Diebler @ 60? I think the Kings will trade that pick or pick a Euro-Stash, but Diebler is an amazing 3pt specialist. Obviously, he will probably go undrafted and the Kings could invite him to camp, which he might be interested in because the Kings do need shooters.