Where's Webber Going?

[KevinSalvadori]

Retirement, methinks. Or Golden State.

 

[vladetomiller]

And of course the financial point, simple enough for the average grade schooler to understand, is that the league's competitive balance is maintained via the salary cap. .

Yet you fail to identify that problem with webber

Detroit Pistons annual salary 58 million and are on that threshhold of cap so they cannot definitely afford to sign a chris webber or any free agent who wants more than the mid level exception.

Webber makes 18 million, repeat 18 million per year

Philly cuts him loose because I feel and any non webber worshipper feels that was due to webber giving up and not putting any effort on the court.

Detroit adds him for chump change, now how is the league's competitive balance maintained. Wasnt that payroll cap set exactly for that reason, to maintain competitive balance. Lets say if for some reason detroit managed to win the ring, wouldnt that be abusing that system.

What should magic fans think now, maybe they were deprived of a fair chance because one player used a loop hole in the system.

Maybe next year all these prima donnas on sucky teams can really suck until all star week, ask for open trades with the media, miss games , miss ACTUAL GAMES thinking they were excused for sucking, critisize the coach and co players and eventually when the act gets tired the team cuts its loss thinking its better to remove the cancer than keep it around. Then they can figure out which team has the best record in a conference they would like to be in and join them to win.

Atleast Jalen Rose sucked before he was waived and after he was signed by another team, its really surprising to see some players sucking big time before being waived and miraculously all injuries are gone once signed with the new team, all the lost basketball skills come back in no time with the new team.

That seems right alright, financial standpoint well maintained in the league with excellent competitive balance that the payroll cap and luxury tax provides.

 

[vladetomiller]

They serve no purpose, play a child's game that everybody else does just for entertainment, and are showered with money, prestige, and in a few special cases, with love far beyond anything they could in their wildest accomplishments deserve.

And Karl Malone, in a supreme act of selfishness, took a dump on that rarest and most undeserved of adultation for a petty personal goal. For himself.

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Good point , I would really think that you have great moral values if you stopped just with that.

True, Karl Malone ditched the one team that he has always played for and went to a team that was more like an enemy to some extent, to the coach who had denied them their ring many a times. It doesnt matter what the owner did or didnt, he had an obligation with the fans. I AGREE you have a point

So when you are so very upset with a player for that one issue of having that moral ground to be loyal to a fan base for all the money they make for playing a child sport

1. Where is your moral ground on taking money from boosters while in college playing the same child sport

2. Where is your moral ground on perjury when asked about getting money from boosters

3. Where is your moral ground on players refusing to join a team that traded for them

4. Where is your moral ground on players sucking intentionally on teams where they dont think they are comfortable (I am not talking about the philly situation here, other than the sacto chapter this individual player has had a history of sucking with teams just because he doesnt like the team, the city or one thing or another )

5. Where is your moral ground on players abusing drugs during the season and getting fined and suspended for games that the fans were so eager to see and watch their team win

6. Where is your moral ground on players joining that elite team already with a great chance of winning to chase that ring.

Offcourse a player wanting to win and doing things the right way to join a new team is a supreme act of selfishness, would like to hear your adjectives for the things that I mentioned above.

 

[love_them_kings]

So when you are so very upset with a player for that one issue of having that moral ground to be loyal to a fan base for all the money they make for playing a child sport

1. Where is your moral ground on taking money from boosters while in college playing the same child sport

2. Where is your moral ground on perjury when asked about getting money from boosters

3. Where is your moral ground on players refusing to join a team that traded for them

4. Where is your moral ground on players sucking intentionally on teams where they dont think they are comfortable (I am not talking about the philly situation here, other than the sacto chapter this individual player has had a history of sucking with teams just because he doesnt like the team, the city or one thing or another )

5. Where is your moral ground on players abusing drugs during the season and getting fined and suspended for games that the fans were so eager to see and watch their team win

6. Where is your moral ground on players joining that elite team already with a great chance of winning to chase that ring.

Offcourse a player wanting to win and doing things the right way to join a new team is a supreme act of selfishness, would like to hear your adjectives for the things that I mentioned above.

Well, if your point is that Webb is not perfect, I think everyone can agree with that. He's made some bad decisions over the years (who hasn't??), and some of those things go back 10 or more years in his life. I know if I go back to my college days there are things I regret.

I guess it depends on how you look at things. To me, while Webb has his issues, I admire his love of basketball, his passion for winning, and the loyalty he had to the Kings. If he had not been traded, and had ditched Sacramento for a ring I personally would have felt cheated & disappointed. That's not the case.

Clearly Philly was a disaster, and I don't buy into the malicious tanking theory that seems to prevail. I think that by the time Iverson was traded Webb was simply so demoralized he didn't have much to give.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I am really tempted to close this thread as yet one more time the Webber bashers have found one more creves to slip their venom through.

The point of the thread was where did people think think Webber would play next. Some people had the audacity to give rational for their suggestions and that rational has been twisted into yet one more boreing round of Webber bashing. I don't worship the guy, I don't make excuses for him. I only pointed out WHY given his career he might seek particular locals like San Antonio, Houston or Miami. If you agree fine, if you disagree even better but to take a single word "Respect" definee it in a way to suit your purposes with out aksing me how I used it or even reading my clairification then to keep pounding drums deceade old is really pointless... unless your point is to make the discussion Webber is or is not scum.

 

[nbrans]

^As someone whose post probably fits into that category, let me just say that this is a Kings board not a Webber board, and I'm a Kings fan and not a Webber fan.

I know there are a lot of people who are still Webber fans, but I don't see why we can't discuss Webber in the way that players like Kobe Bryant are discussed. When Webber fans start bashing other NBA players to boost up Webber, I don't see the harm in making counterpoints that point out Webber's own faults. He's not a perfect guy, as even his supports agree.

I would never have even jumped in this discussion if I didn't see guys I like (Gary Payton, Mitch Richmond) and even guys I dislike (Karl Malone) being questioned by people in order to boost up Webber. It's not personal, I just don't hold Webber on a pedestal and think he deserves any more special treatment than any other player in the NBA.

 

[VF21]

Sorry but there are times when things have just gone too far astray to be of any real benefit. When a Laker fan starts talking/arguing "moral ground" to bash Webber it's time to close the thread.