What would you give up for Porzingis?

Hoopshype twitter feed says knicks have already talked to teams w top 5picks

Im sure they want waaay too much

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I'd prolly offer em Hield, #5 and #34.. For Zinger.. and take back a bad contract like Noah..

I meen.. Kings still have Bogs and Malachi to hold down the SG spot.. Use the #10 pick to Draft a PG (Mitchell, DSJ, Nkitilina). Then use our 2018 pick to get a SF.. Bridges?.. We'd be set..


**might even toss Papa in there instead of #34 if they wanted.
 
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can't wait til the draft is over so we can see what we have on the roster. all these trade rumors/speculation is too much to absorb
 
I would be wary of getting Porz. He's good but not great. I am wary because someone that tall could have injury issues shortly, knees and feet, ala Yao Ming.
And although he's much lighter than Yao: it gives me great pause.
 
Phil Jackson needs, craves, and loves all the attention he gets with his stupid antics. He's used to being relevant and he isn't any longer. I bet Porzingas goes nowhere.

However, I'd give picks 5 and 34 and WCS or Hield for Porzingas and take on Noah's contract. Porzingas is a special talent and still a kid. Guys like him don't happen.
 
Phoenix could really make a good move there. Bledsoe, #4, swap Chandler for Noah, maybe some sweetener. That'd be a pretty solid haul. It's more than we got for Cousins :(
 
Joshoua said:
Without Buddy I make that trade immediately
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Wouldn't do it with WCS either.... look at both of them as possibly nucleus players. Gotta start with someone, and plusI like hearing "Willey--Franken--Stein!!" from Grant....or is it "fricken" - i cant tell.
 
It's amazing some people view Hield and WCS as untouchable? For a guy that will be an All Star for the next 10 years. It's really incredible. WCS will never be half of what Kristaps is. In fact, Porzingas is a lot younger than Hield and younger that WCS and is still infinitely more talented than both combined.

Porzingas may not be a generational talent, Durant, Kobe, Lebron. But, he sure as hell is not too far from that level at Age 21.
 
kingdivac said:
Wouldn't do it with WCS either.... look at both of them as possibly nucleus players. Gotta start with someone, and plusI like hearing "Willey--Franken--Stein!!" from Grant....or is it "fricken" - i cant tell.
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I fly WCS out myself he isn't half the player Porzingis is and can be replaced by Big Papa.
 
Joshoua said:
I fly WCS out myself he isn't half the player Porzingis is and can be replaced by Big Papa.
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I disagree with you - I don't know where this half the player reasoning comes from...their per 36 min stats are not too far off from one another. I think Stein has room to grow. Yes, Porzingis is a better player right now and maybe later. The refutation was including the 5 and 10 pick too which is just too much.
 
kingdivac said:
I disagree with you - I don't know where this half the player reasoning comes from...their per 36 min stats are not too far off from one another. I think Stein has room to grow. Yes, Porzingis is a better player right now and maybe later. The refutation was including the 5 and 10 pick too which is just too much.
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Porzingis is a way better defensive player than wcs and we won't talk about offense that's self explanatory. Porzingis will be a number 1 option all NBA player and he's only 21 he's a potential defensive anchor as well as offensive anchor. Yes I'm picking him over WCS (fox and Collins) you win with stars get Porzingis and pair him with Hield.


http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...under-Have-Discussed-Kristaps-Porzingis-Trade

If we have to go WCS/Skal/5/10 for Porzingis and 41st pick I'd still do it we have good young talent thanks to good drafting by Vlade

Hield/Richardson
Bogdan
Porzingis
Papa/Kofus

We can trade AA for 26/Turner salary relief for Portland. Turner would be a another ball handler in our starting unit.
So in the draft we'd have and target

26: (Terrance Furgeuson)
34: (frank Jackson)
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Joshoua said:
Porzingis is a way better defensive player than wcs and we won't talk about offense that's self explanatory. Porzingis will be a number 1 option all NBA player and he's only 21 he's a potential defensive anchor as well as offensive anchor. Yes I'm picking him over WCS (fox and Collins) you win with stars get Porzingis and pair him with Hield.


http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...under-Have-Discussed-Kristaps-Porzingis-Trade

If we have to go WCS/Skal/5/10 for Porzingis and 41st pick I'd still do it we have good young talent thanks to good drafting by Vlade

Hield/Richardson
Bogdan
Porzingis
Papa/Kofus

We can trade AA for 26/Turner salary relief for Portland. Turner would be a another ball handler in our starting unit.
So in the draft we'd have and target

26: (Terrance Furgeuson)
34: (frank Jackson)
44:
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that's overkill for porz. He may be worth that much to some teams, but not this team. The kings would be giving up Fox, WCS, Skal, and probably monk/collins for Porz. If this team was one dynamic player away from competing, then yes, pull the trigger, but this team need to start from scratch.
 
AaronPDX said:
Phil Jackson needs, craves, and loves all the attention he gets with his stupid antics. He's used to being relevant and he isn't any longer. I bet Porzingas goes nowhere.

However, I'd give picks 5 and 34 and WCS or Hield for Porzingas and take on Noah's contract. Porzingas is a special talent and still a kid. Guys like him don't happen.
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I'd do 5+34+WCS in a second for Porzingis. Then take Collins at 10 and we have a near perfect front-court pairing for the next decade. Shooting/switching ability/2 rim protectors/post presence/great rebounding.
 
I don't think you guys realize how stupidly valuable KP is on the trade market. 21 year old big man who's perfectly suited for today's game, is already a star, is years away from his prime and has 6 more years of team control? He might be one of the best trade assets put on the market ever.


Getting 8 back is a pipe-dream in any deal.
 
I'd give up 5, 10 and Skal easily.

The_Jamal said:
I don't think you guys realize how stupidly valuable KP is on the trade market. 21 year old big man who's perfectly suited for today's game, is already a star, is years away from his prime and has 6 more years of team control? He might be one of the best trade assets put on the market ever.


Getting 8 back is a pipe-dream in any deal.
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I agree with everything you said here.
 
Joshoua said:
Porzingis is a way better defensive player than wcs and we won't talk about offense that's self explanatory. Porzingis will be a number 1 option all NBA player and he's only 21 he's a potential defensive anchor as well as offensive anchor. Yes I'm picking him over WCS (fox and Collins) you win with stars get Porzingis and pair him with Hield.


http://basketball.realgm.com/wireta...under-Have-Discussed-Kristaps-Porzingis-Trade

If we have to go WCS/Skal/5/10 for Porzingis and 41st pick I'd still do it we have good young talent thanks to good drafting by Vlade

Hield/Richardson
Bogdan
Porzingis
Papa/Kofus

We can trade AA for 26/Turner salary relief for Portland. Turner would be a another ball handler in our starting unit.
So in the draft we'd have and target

26: (Terrance Furgeuson)
34: (frank Jackson)
44:
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You mean win like the Knicks do with Porzingis right now?.....you are overzealous. You didn't compare the per 36 min stats with WCS like I told you. Go look at the stats themselves. "Way" better defender? I think not. You're talking about a fleecing. Enjot the draft though.
 
If they are looking for a top 5 pick + a young player or a star, I wonder if #5 + Rudy would have been enough.
 
I'd trade the #10 and a player, but not the #5 and a player of any consequence. I doubt Jackson is serious; he probably just wants to get Porzingis' attention and have him bow before the great Phil Jackson.:rolleyes:
 
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