What will Team USA look like in Beijing?

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What will Team USA look like in Beijing?
By Chris Sheridan
ESPN.com
Updated: September 2, 2007


LAS VEGAS -- They walked out of the Thomas & Mack Center on Sunday with gold medals draped around their necks, and they'll be looking to do the same next summer when the site will be Beijing and the level of competition will be much, much tougher.

But how many members of this version of Team USA will make the long flight to Asia 11 months from now?

And what, if anything, does this team need to add?

Those are the questions team director Jerry Colangelo and coach Mike Krzyzewski will be pondering over the next several months as they roll into the final year of their three-year commitment to bring the Old World Order back to international basketball.

They were borderline ecstatic with the way this team played while rolling through the Tournament of the Americas, but they know next summer will be a whole different story. The opponents will be bigger, more polished and more experienced than what they faced out here in the desert, and they know they'll need to tweak the roster to go with a true "A" team.

"The basic questions are, 'Do you carry an extra shooter, do you carry an extra point, can you get another big?' " Colangelo said. "I think it's taking a hard look at what happened here and weighing all the pluses, then tearing it down a little bit and say, 'OK, if you could get anything you want, what would you want?' Well, obviously, size. If you can add a big, that's something you'd like to do any time. I don't think there's any team in the world that wouldn't want to take an extra big. But you don't just take a big for the sense of taking a big. It's got to be a guy who can play with these guys."

Colangelo said Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh will be two of the additions to the roster, as long as they are healthy, and the team almost certainly will stick with the same starting lineup of Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Jason Kidd, Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard. So that's seven spots.

You can guarantee a spot to Michael Redd, too, and Amare Stoudemire probably is locked into a spot, so that's nine.

A second point guard would make 10, and that spot is pretty much up for grabs between Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Kirk Hinrich and Chauncey Billups.

That leaves two spots to fill, with a good eight or nine legitimate candidates in the mix. And at least one of those spots has to go to a big man, because Team USA cannot go to China with Howard, Stoudemire and Bosh as its only bigs.

"I know I'll be solicited heavily by people who want their players to play and by players themselves," Colangelo said.

So let's take a look at the bubble guys (we'll go through them alphabetically), and assess their chances of filling out those final two spots on the roster:

Shane Battier: He was a starter a year ago in Japan, the perfect glue guy, and he's a Krzyzewski favorite. He can do a little bit of everything, including guard the best player on the opposing team when Kobe is resting. ODDS: 5-1.

Carlos Boozer: He has not been a member of Team USA under Colangelo's watch, but he would have been in camp this summer had his wife not been due to give birth to twins. He was a member of the 2004 Olympic team, too, so he is experienced in international ball. ODDS: 12-1.

Elton Brand: He was a key member of last summer's team at the world championship, and he would have been here this summer if injuries hadn't forced him out. He has been as close to a stalwart as USA Basketball has had. ODDS: 4-1.

Tyson Chandler: He was the 12th man in Vegas, but he was a shot-blocking and rebounding force in the limited amount of time he was used -- and there is going to come a time next summer against a big opponent when he'll be exactly the type of player the Americans will need. ODDS: 10-1.

Kevin Durant: He was one of the two final cuts for the Tournament of the Americas team, but he's one of the early favorites to be on the 2010 World Championship team and the 2012 Olympics team. Having a guy on those teams who was in Beijing will be desirable, which could work in his favor. ODDS: 20-1.

Joe Johnson: If there was a legitimate argument to be made that the team will need an extra shooter, he might be the guy. But with the way Team USA cured its shooting woes in Vegas, shooting 47 percent on 3s as a team, that argument doesn't hold water. And it's the same argument that can be used to knock Mike Miller out of the picture. ODDS: 15-1.

Shawn Marion: Although he's a Colangelo favorite and a veteran of the 2002 and 2004 U.S. teams, he wasn't able to play this summer or last summer because of injuries. That'll hurt his chances. ODDS: 15-1.

Brad Miller: Last year's 12th man did not participate this summer, which pretty much removes him from the mix, same as Gilbert Arenas, Antawn Jamison and Bruce Bowen. ODDS: 100-1.

Tayshaun Prince: His versatility is his strongest asset, but it's hard to see Coach K giving him the nod over Battier if he's looking for that type of player. ODDS: 20-1.

Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.
 
I'd really like to see Kevin Durant back on the team. And I'd welcome Elton Brand back with open arms...

Coach K. and Jerry C. have their work cut out for them.

:D
 
Did KG say he didn't want to play because he would be an awesome addition to the bigs giving us a legit PF. Put KG in the mix with Howard and Amare and we have a great group of bigs!!! It was cool seeing Melo and Lebron on the floor together, but they are really SFs, Melo sure has bulked up but he still isn't a PF.
 
Snapper Jones brought up a good point... He commented that now that the team is looking like a TEAM, a number of players will probably reconsider and ask to be on. My personal opinion is that unless they had a REALLY good, legitimate reason before they should not be allowed on now. The guys that showed up REALLY put their best efforts out there, with NO egos involved, and got the gold medal. I would be very hard-pressed to remove one of them simply because a "bigger name" decided maybe he would grace the team with his presence for the Olympics.

It's about heart and hustle, dedication and TEAM. If someone couldn't find a way to show up for FIBA, then coming in late for the Olympics seems bandwagon to me.
 
Should a guy like Glen Robinson or Michael Finley go to San Antonio, despite the fact that they are 'coat-tailing'?
 
Snapper Jones brought up a good point... He commented that now that the team is looking like a TEAM, a number of players will probably reconsider and ask to be on. My personal opinion is that unless they had a REALLY good, legitimate reason before they should not be allowed on now.

So anybody wanting to go to a winning situation should be shunned?

Teams live for being in the position Team USA finds itself in now.

Besides, everyone going to team USA since the Indiana thing has been ridiculed before they even started playing, labeled as a bunch of selfish overpaid athletes, and the fans rooted for them to loose, despite these people volunteering to represent their country for no pay, or endorsement. That is enough to scare some of the higher profile players to say no. It wasn't their fault that they didn't have enough practice time, or that their team was fundamentally flawed.
 
So anybody wanting to go to a winning situation should be shunned?

Teams live for being in the position Team USA finds itself in now.

Besides, everyone going to team USA since the Indiana thing has been ridiculed before they even started playing, labeled as a bunch of selfish overpaid athletes, and the fans rooted for them to loose, despite these people volunteering to represent their country for no pay, or endorsement. That is enough to scare some of the higher profile players to say no. It wasn't their fault that they didn't have enough practice time, or that their team was fundamentally flawed.

Anyone who wasn't willing to devote the time and energy before to help bring back the reputation of the team shouldn't automatically expect to join now that the existing players won the gold.

TEAM USA doesn't have to be all about the higher profile players. I loved what I saw on the court in the FIBA this time around. What happened in the past isn't what I'm talking about. And the excuses you've given are just that - excuses. Everybody has them...

Our present roster will have a couple of additions but I don't think Coach K or Jerry C are going to mess too much with what they've got because it worked. And you don't fix what ain't broken.
 
Nor should they... go with what works. But I can't fault the players who didn't want to come before. Again, even before they lost the gold, they were being ridiculed, at home, by their own fans.

It is as though we as USA fans, felt the need to humiliate our athletes (despite their volunteering to play for us) before we were allowed to root for them again. There really isn't that much difference in rosters this time around, our attitude as a nation has simply changed.
 
Nor should they... go with what works. But I can't fault the players who didn't want to come before. Again, even before they lost the gold, they were being ridiculed, at home, by their own fans.

It is as though we as USA fans, felt the need to humiliate our athletes (despite their volunteering to play for us) before we were allowed to root for them again. There really isn't that much difference in rosters this time around, our attitude as a nation has simply changed.

Not everyone humiliated the athletes. You aren't speaking for an entire nation, you know. The athletes and their attitudes on and off the court brought some of the disdain on themselves. But THAT WAS THEN. It was an entirely different group of young men and, I think more importantly, a different mindset from the top down.

It wasn't that our attitude as a nation has changed so much as the temperant, demeanor and general attitude of those selected to represent us is different.
 
I would love to see Gilbert Arenas coming off the bench with Michael Redd. That would be a second-team scoring tandem that wouldn't miss a beat, even in international play.
 
Not everyone humiliated the athletes. You aren't speaking for an entire nation, you know. The athletes and their attitudes on and off the court brought some of the disdain on themselves. But THAT WAS THEN. It was an entirely different group of young men and, I think more importantly, a different mindset from the top down.

It wasn't that our attitude as a nation has changed so much as the temperant, demeanor and general attitude of those selected to represent us is different.
Of course not everybody... and I wasn't claiming to speak for a nation. But there were enough, and that is all it takes. Countless people were rooting for them to loose, and they were surprisingly vocal. Perhaps it was their actions, but I feel it was enough to scare many more prominent USA'ers away. Don't forget Paul Perce and Ben Wallace became the whipping boys for team USA after Indiana, and I don't think it was quite fair.

Yes, that was then. And that is why people want to come now. Hence my point. Because that era seems to have passed.

I don't think we are going to agree on this issue, so this will probably be my last post on this topic.
 
Oh geez... Sorry but I just don't think the "prominent USA'ers" are as thin-skinned as you seem to think they are. If anything, I would think they'd want to man up and prove people wrong - not wait until the gold has already been won and then decide to jump on the bandwagon as it goes by.

As far as Paul Pierce and Ben Wallace becoming the "whipping boys?" Sorry, but I'm not gonna shed any tears. They're big boys AND millionaires. I think they'll get over it.

And yes, you're right. We'll probably never agree on this particular point. My main point from the beginning has been that I LIKE the current team and don't want to see those who opted not to play be afforded any kind of special treatment because of who they are. Let them EARN a spot on the team, like the guys who just won the gold did.
 
I say the following roster would be ideal:

PG Kidd
SG Bryant
SF James
PF Anthony
C Howard
Bench
Wade (pretty much garunteed)
Williams (had a better showing than Chauncey and actually almost had as many assists as Kidd)
Redd (we need that outside threat to break zones)
Stoudemire (the only other option US has for center)
Bosh (gives us a true power forward that also suits international game)
Brand (need that 4th big)
Prince (I like him over Battier as the defender and all-around type, but Shane could fill the role as well)
 
I say the following roster would be ideal:

PG Kidd
SG Bryant
SF James
PF Anthony
C Howard
Bench
Wade (pretty much garunteed)
Williams (had a better showing than Chauncey and actually almost had as many assists as Kidd)
Redd (we need that outside threat to break zones)
Stoudemire (the only other option US has for center)
Bosh (gives us a true power forward that also suits international game)
Brand (need that 4th big)
Prince (I like him over Battier as the defender and all-around type, but Shane could fill the role as well)

I don't think Wade fits, especially not off the bench. Deron Williams should be picked over Chauncey, but Billups might get the nod because this will probably be his last chance to go to the Olympics, while Williams has at least two more chances. Brand probably will decline, as he will still be rehabbing; at least he should, because his NBA career should take precendence over the Olympics. Substitute Boozer or Chandler. Prince or Battier are probably interchangeable in the international game, with Battier getting the nod for being a better shooter and being a Duke guy.

So final roster would be as follows, if it were up to me, barring injuries:
Starters
Kidd
Bryant
James
Anthony
Stoudemire

Bench
Howard
Williams
Redd
Arenas
Bosh
Boozer
Battier
 
I don't think Wade fits, especially not off the bench. Deron Williams should be picked over Chauncey, but Billups might get the nod because this will probably be his last chance to go to the Olympics, while Williams has at least two more chances. Brand probably will decline, as he will still be rehabbing; at least he should, because his NBA career should take precendence over the Olympics. Substitute Boozer or Chandler. Prince or Battier are probably interchangeable in the international game, with Battier getting the nod for being a better shooter and being a Duke guy.

So final roster would be as follows, if it were up to me, barring injuries:
Starters
Kidd
Bryant
James
Anthony
Stoudemire

Bench
Howard
Williams
Redd
Arenas
Bosh
Boozer
Battier

1) Wade is pretty much garunteed to be on the team...and although his game might not suit international style perfectly, he is good enough of a passer and scorer that he could provide useful as the main player on the second unit. If there was one weakness I saw in the FIBA tourney team USA is that when the starters left, the rest of the team basically played evenly with the opposition. The leads were rarely increased, and sometimes significantly decreased. Having a guy who can create his own offense might help that.

2)Arenas really has no place on the team for several reasons. For starters he has yet to play for Team USA. Considering that other players have made serious commitments, this should prove to be a serious hindrance to his chances. Furthermore, the manner in which he took being cut last year will hurt him as well for two reasons. One, I'm sure the coaching staff surely doesn't appreciate being called out like that. And two, it wouldn't surprise anyone if Arenas purposely went out trying to prove himself on a nightly basis if he made the team to back up all of his talk about being cut. He's already a bit of a ballhog in the first place, and this added motivation to prove his worth, would only make things worst. The last thing team USA needs is even a shred of selfishness on the team.

3) As for Brand vs. Boozer...its pretty much a wash to me. Although I'm sure Brand gets the nod if healthy.
 
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