We should go after greg oden
- Thread starter Demarcus Cousins
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i didn't look up how many games he played over the course of his career to be honest with you. thats why i said like. 
he'd be a nice addition if he came at a good price tag. cousins, oden, JT, whiteside. thats alot of front court size. we could be aggressive on D throughout the game
he'd be a nice addition if he came at a good price tag. cousins, oden, JT, whiteside. thats alot of front court size. we could be aggressive on D throughout the game
Huh?
Your entire arguement for ignoring Odens knee history is our medical staff is better than Portlands? That's your convincing arguement? That's the amount of thought you put into it? That's how much stock you put into the risk of throwing 40M at a player who may never recover?
Do you buy a car based on how cool it looks in the picture? Do you even bother doing research, and looking under the hood, and weigh the risk, or just assume your mechanic is the best in the world and can fix any problems you inherit? Now multiply that $20,000k risk on a car by 2000, and that's how much we could potentialy lose if his knee history holds up.
Your entire arguement for ignoring Odens knee history is our medical staff is better than Portlands? That's your convincing arguement? That's the amount of thought you put into it? That's how much stock you put into the risk of throwing 40M at a player who may never recover?
Do you buy a car based on how cool it looks in the picture? Do you even bother doing research, and looking under the hood, and weigh the risk, or just assume your mechanic is the best in the world and can fix any problems you inherit? Now multiply that $20,000k risk on a car by 2000, and that's how much we could potentialy lose if his knee history holds up.
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I highly doubt it. I've always been an Oden believer, but obviously taking a risk on him now would just be an enormous enormous deal, and one that Geoff has not traditionally taken.
Now that said the quote/Voison fantasy/who knows in Voisin's article about the Kings pursuing a "major frontcourt talent" has had me scratching my head since it came out, since inthe modern NBA there are so few guys who fit that description, and even fewer available. You could stretch it to mean Gasol or Nene (who we have liked in the past). But Oden, if healthy...could he match that description too? If healthy he is one of the few players who could cover for what you lost if Daly leaves, and more. Now its still not perfect -- you again run into the problem of neither he nor Cousins beign mobile enough to cover NBA PFs around the edges. But if healthy he is sucha stud defender/rebounder. Its just a terrible risk though. One I think more likely to be taken by a team that is either desperate like Houston or who views him like icing on an already baked cake. For us to do that, say this is our guy, throw long tem money at him...well we have something to lose. We have a rebuild that should work withouta move like this. If we get sidetracked on an Oden project, ahve it blow up in our faces, it could really hurt. I am almost game, almost. Have Oden and Whiteside coming in and hope that one or the other of them can step up as the shotblocker/paint protector next to Cousins. But its a huge risk.
Now that said the quote/Voison fantasy/who knows in Voisin's article about the Kings pursuing a "major frontcourt talent" has had me scratching my head since it came out, since inthe modern NBA there are so few guys who fit that description, and even fewer available. You could stretch it to mean Gasol or Nene (who we have liked in the past). But Oden, if healthy...could he match that description too? If healthy he is one of the few players who could cover for what you lost if Daly leaves, and more. Now its still not perfect -- you again run into the problem of neither he nor Cousins beign mobile enough to cover NBA PFs around the edges. But if healthy he is sucha stud defender/rebounder. Its just a terrible risk though. One I think more likely to be taken by a team that is either desperate like Houston or who views him like icing on an already baked cake. For us to do that, say this is our guy, throw long tem money at him...well we have something to lose. We have a rebuild that should work withouta move like this. If we get sidetracked on an Oden project, ahve it blow up in our faces, it could really hurt. I am almost game, almost. Have Oden and Whiteside coming in and hope that one or the other of them can step up as the shotblocker/paint protector next to Cousins. But its a huge risk.
The 30th is the last day they can tender the offer. So lets wait and see if the actually do it. One would think that if they were going to make an offer, they would have done it by now. I doubt waiting till the last day will give them anymore assurance he'll be healthy, than they would have had a month ago. If they do tender the 8.8 million offer, then I'll pass. If they don't, then I'd consider making a bid for him once the freeagent season starts. But there's no way I'm paying a guy that only played in 82 games over the last three years 8.8 million dollars.
Yeah, I had the same thought when I read that. I looked at every team in the league and there are maybe a half dozen guys who would qualify as an acquirable "major frontcourt talent", Dalembert included. I made a post a few months ago about targeting Oden with some of our cap space, but it's anyone's guess what kind of offer it would take to sign him. There's a certain price point at which the risk is no longer justified and I have a feeling Portland is willing to come very close to if not over that price point if they have to. But I still think Oden is young enough that he could have a productive career.
Considering our team's high aversion to injuries the past several seasons (and to key players most of the time), I would consider our medical/training staff to be highly questionable and ill-fit to handle someone like Greg Oden of all people.
And has he even been able to develop his game these past few years? Seems like he's spent most of his time just trying to come back from some type of catastrophic injury.
I'm a risk taker, but this is really doubtful even for me. Unless he came with a bargain of a price tag, I'd stay away.
And has he even been able to develop his game these past few years? Seems like he's spent most of his time just trying to come back from some type of catastrophic injury.
I'm a risk taker, but this is really doubtful even for me. Unless he came with a bargain of a price tag, I'd stay away.
Oden has had multiple problems as we all know. It is the severity of the problems that should set off a series of red lights. He has had three surgeries in his 4 year NBA career. Two of these surgeries were of the microfracture type. Now, this surgeriy can be successful (Spencer Hawes) and sometimes not (Chris Webber) but the bigger point is the reason for the surgery. This surgery replaces cartilege that has worn away or chipped off. This guy must have the weakest cartilege in the history of the NBA. THAT sets off the red lights. The chances he will ever have a fully functioning knee is incredibly small. The possibility that his cartilege will give way again are very, very high. The next time it happens may be the day he retires.