We really do need Garnett now

[DirkAB]

The problem is, if we do trade Bibby, Artest, or Brad, we won't have the talent to complement KG, and KG has shown time and time again that he can't do it alone. Maybe I would be willing to part with Brad, but in my mind, if we were to land KG, having Bibby and Artest in a Kings uniform is vital.

You can say we have no players outside of that trio near the talent level of KG, but we don't have scrubs either. Shareef is an excellent PF with a very cheap contract, Bonzi is a terrific player, K-Mart, Garcia, Kenny Thomas are all talented young studs, and of course, former Sixth Man of the Year in Corliss Williamson.

T'Wolves meet reality. You're going nowhere. Let The Man go already.

Are you out of your mind? Do you think that McHale is retarded or just plain crazy? You never trade a superstar without getting a superstar in return. There are all of about 5-10 players that Garnett would be traded for in this league if McHale has a brain, and it appears that he does: AI, TMac, Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, LeBron, Wade, and Amare. Maybe there are a few others but I think that is about it off the top of my head, and AI and TMac look like the only possibilities out of that group. Maybe players like J O'Neal, Marion, Gasol, Pierce, Nash, and Carmelo could also be traded for him but only if they were package with some other talent to even things up. Quit dreaming and get realistic, what this team needs now is to get rid of a couple of its undersized PFs and find a banger to play down low. It also wouldn't hurt to get rid of Hart and find a new backup PG.

 

[venom_7]

Are you out of your mind? Do you think that McHale is retarded or just plain crazy? You never trade a superstar without getting a superstar in return. There are all of about 5-10 players that Garnett would be traded for in this league if McHale has a brain, and it appears that he does: AI, TMac, Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, LeBron, Wade, and Amare. Maybe there are a few others but I think that is about it off the top of my head, and AI and TMac look like the only possibilities out of that group. Maybe players like J O'Neal, Marion, Gasol, Pierce, Nash, and Carmelo could also be traded for him but only if they were package with some other talent to even things up. Quit dreaming and get realistic, what this team needs now is to get rid of a couple of its undersized PFs and find a banger to play down low. It also wouldn't hurt to get rid of Hart and find a new backup PG.

McHale would be retarded if he traded KG to the WEST. If we were to get him we would have to wait for his FA.

 

[VF21]

One thing for certain is we do not have the chips to bring to the deal to make us legitimate bidders in the Garnett auction, should there be one.

Our needs and desires aren't worth anything. There are too many better options out there, as others have indicated. Kevin McHale may be willing to trade but he's not going to send Garnett out the door for chump change.

 

[Mike0476]

I'd rather have Chris Bosh. We get a good look at him in a few hours. Any ideas on how we could get him? (I know it won't happen but I can dream)

 

[nbrans]

I'd rather have Chris Bosh. We get a good look at him in a few hours. Any ideas on how we could get him? (I know it won't happen but I can dream)

I wish, but it's not happening. The Kings don't have anything the Raptors would want.

 

[Kings113]

R1 pick/Skinner/one of SAR/KT? I don't even know. R1 pick would be involved though.

 

[Fillmoe]

I'd rather have Chris Bosh. We get a good look at him in a few hours. Any ideas on how we could get him? (I know it won't happen but I can dream)

KG= Now
Bosh= The Future

 

[kingkung]

Are you out of your mind? Do you think that McHale is retarded or just plain crazy? You never trade a superstar without getting a superstar in return. There are all of about 5-10 players that Garnett would be traded for in this league if McHale has a brain, and it appears that he does: AI, TMac, Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, LeBron, Wade, and Amare. Maybe there are a few others but I think that is about it off the top of my head, and AI and TMac look like the only possibilities out of that group. Maybe players like J O'Neal, Marion, Gasol, Pierce, Nash, and Carmelo could also be traded for him but only if they were package with some other talent to even things up. Quit dreaming and get realistic, what this team needs now is to get rid of a couple of its undersized PFs and find a banger to play down low. It also wouldn't hurt to get rid of Hart and find a new backup PG.

Trading for one of these guys is exactly what McHale doesn't need to do. First of all, the young ones (LeBron, Wade) are the futures of their franchises and would NEVER be traded for Garnett, and of the rest, which of these guys is better than Garnett?!?! Which would take them as far as Garnett has?? None of them. They would have the same financial problems, and still be the same mediocre, one-superstar-surrounded-by-a-bunch-of-scrubs team. I'm saying that Minnesota should put an end to the KG experiment altogether, and start anew, unloading his long-term deal and acquiring some young talent, and go back to the drawing board. Because it just ain't workin over there.

(As for McHale having a brain... Joe Smith, under-the-table max contract???)

 

[Mike0476]

I wish, but it's not happening. The Kings don't have anything the Raptors would want.

What if we could find a third or fourth team to be involved?

Toronto is 14-30 overall and sitting in last place in the Atlantic Division; behind the New York Knicks. Surely they need something. It also doesn't make sense to have both Bosh and Charlie Villanueva. Eventually Villanueva will want to be a starter.

This would probably be best left under the trade topic.

 

[BMiller52]

Minnesota is still trying to build a contender around KG. They gave up a pick in the Ricky deal and took back Mark Blount's contract. IMO if they could get Francis they'd be good again. They're not giving Garnett up. We need a move for a PF that plays D, brings intensity, can rebound a bit, and block shots. Know who I'm talkin about?

 

[cdep73]

I think we need to slow down and take a breather. Even though having KG would be very beneficial to the Kings, we would have to give something big. I'm not ready to give Brad Miller up yet, and I'm sure as HELL aint ready to give Mike up. Concidering the lack of good centers in the league, Brad Miller is one of the best centers in the league. Who gets a center with great court-vision and an accurate hot? Sure he's pretty soft on defense and unathletic, but if he were to average 10 rebounds or more a game(maybe 9), he's an another All-Star. And Mike is stepping up big time lately. And plus, you guys act like we dont have PF. Shareef and KT anyone? Try KT and a healthy SAR, scary.

 

[VF21]

I'm not sure we still have the desperate need for KG I once thought we had. I'd sure like to give this present roster a chance before I decide to pull the plug on anyone else.

Supporting cast changes? Oh, yeah. No problem. But let's see how the new starters START before we send them away.

 

[Bricklayer]

I absolutely agree with the basic premise here -- KG/Artest/anybody else is FAR better than what we have now, and the sort of true core that you can build a title around. find a way to keep me Bibby for outside shooting/clutch play/ 2-man with KG and I'm ready to go to war.

That said, odds are slim to none of us having a chance to pull it off.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Are you out of your mind? Do you think that McHale is retarded or just plain crazy? You never trade a superstar without getting a superstar in return.

You mean they wouldn't trade their superstar player for a package of say Kenny, Corliss and Skinner?

 

[nbrans]

You mean they wouldn't trade their superstar player for a package of say Kenny, Corliss and Skinner?

Maybe if Garnett had microfracture surgery!

 

[John Galt]

Put yourself in McHale's shoes. Would you even pick up the phone from someone who wanted to talk to you about acquiring Garnett? I would not.

 

[DaMan]

I am not trying to insult anybody or bash any of our players but i am really sick of people making bibby and brad as great superstars of some kind. I will must likely get tear apart by most of u guys but not one player on this team is worth not trading for kg. I really think that that there is so much love for them because they have been here longer and played for the past great teams.

At the beinning of the season sar and bonzi were our best players, and our so called big three were playing bad. It seemed like the only time that the three did play will is when sar and bonzi were not there, they only played well by themselves. To me this team would be better if they played and built a system around artest, bonzi, and sar, making bibby take a backseat role and trading brad for a def minded center.

And getting Kg would must likely will have to invole brad, shareef, artest or bonzi and some picks. But must likely KG will never be traded because he would only want to go to a contender. And that really hard to do because its like telling the pistons or SA to break up the good thing they have to being in kg. But if KG wants to be on a middle the pack team which he could bring up to a champion champ level, a deal could be worked that would help all three sides. I only could say that the nets, gs, LAC, mabye wasington and sealtte has the best shots at doing that because they have more than one star and trading one of them and fillers could be enough to get kg, But i doubt that will ever happen.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

With all due respect to KG if playing on a contender was so important to him he probably shouldn't have signed a contract that would financially cripple any team he plays for. The Joe Smith deal certainly didn't help things but illegal back room deals were necessitated because the T-Wolves couldn't legitimately compete on the free agent market thanks to KG's deal.

 

[DaMan]

With all due respect to KG if playing on a contender was so important to him he probably shouldn't have signed a contract that would financially cripple any team he plays for. The Joe Smith deal certainly didn't help things but illegal back room deals were necessitated because the T-Wolves couldn't legitimately compete on the free agent market thanks to KG's deal.

But he is worth it. Question doesn't shaq make as much as he does?

 

[pdxKingsFan]

But he is worth it. Question doesn't shaq make as much as he does?

How many rings has KG won? I don't think KG is remotely comparable to Shaq, they both signed mega-deals prior to the league imposing a maximum salary. Shaq was supposed to be the player that put the Lakers back on top immediately. It didn't work exactly as planned but they still got 3 rings out of it.

Also Shaq signed his mega deal in LA which will always attract free agents because of the endorsement deals. And in Miami you have the nice weather and no income tax. Free agents have gone to both places on the cheap either for personal reasons or to play with Shaq. No offense to any Minnesotans but why would anyone want to move/play there?

 

[Bricklayer]

How many rings has KG won? I don't think KG is remotely comparable to Shaq, they both signed mega-deals prior to the league imposing a maximum salary. Shaq was supposed to be the player that put the Lakers back on top immediately. It didn't work exactly as planned but they still got 3 rings out of it.

Also Shaq signed his mega deal in LA which will always attract free agents because of the endorsement deals. And in Miami you have the nice weather and no income tax. Free agents have gone to both places on the cheap either for personal reasons or to play with Shaq. No offense to any Minnesotans but why would anyone want to move/play there?

Put KG and Kobe together and they'd have a few rings too.

Rings are highly overrated. Luck as much as anything. You have to have a smart front office hook you up with good complimentary players.

This is a HALL OF FAME player, former MVP, All Defensive team member, First Team All NBA member. Worth every bleeping penny. I would cheerfully trade Brad, Reef, and Bonzi for him, and I'd come out the winner. And just as likely the Wolves would say no. They are dumb. Not that dumb.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Put KG and Kobe togetehr anfd they'd have a few rings too.

Maybe. But Shaq + Anyone is a better bet. Shaq's ginormous contract made more sense at the time because he was supposed to be the final piece of the puzzle (turns out Phil Jackson was). KG's has crippled his team and they will likely never get over the hump. I don't think trading 3 starters to get him would leave us any better than Minnesota has ever been. We'd still have to fill those spots with a horrid bench and no financial flexibility.

 

[GoGoGadget]

I absolutely agree with the basic premise here -- KG/Artest/anybody else is FAR better than what we have now, and the sort of true core that you can build a title around. find a way to keep me Bibby for outside shooting/clutch play/ 2-man with KG and I'm ready to go to war.

That said, odds are slim to none of us having a chance to pull it off.

I hate reality.

KG/Artest/Bibby is drool-worthy.

 

[Evenstar]

i would give up brad, kenny, bonzi, sar, martin, any combo of those guys in a HEARTBEAT to get KG.

and yes gogo, bibby artest and KG is a very drool-worthy bunch.

make it happen geoff!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Zyphen]

This is exactly the kind of thing that keeps me from deriding Laker fans for thinking they can land Lebron James. Fans are just delusional in general.

 

[VF21]

I hate reality.

KG/Artest/Bibby is drool-worthy.

word.

 

[kingkung]

Put KG and Kobe together and they'd have a few rings too.

Rings are highly overrated. Luck as much as anything. You have to have a smart front office hook you up with good complimentary players.

This is a HALL OF FAME player, former MVP, All Defensive team member, First Team All NBA member. Worth every bleeping penny. I would cheerfully trade Brad, Reef, and Bonzi for him, and I'd come out the winner. And just as likely the Wolves would say no. They are dumb. Not that dumb.

I agree; I don't think KG will be traded right this second, particularly with the new changes they made, etc. But... sooner or later, maybe this time next year, I hope the Wolves will realize that no matter what they do, they will still be the mediocre 7th-8th seeded team that will get destroyed by the Spurs in the playoffs. And when Garnett's contract (and patience) starts running out, and desperation inevitably strikes, there will be a time in which they will ponder starting anew. And if we are running well with Bibby, Ron, Brad, and a host of talented young players with reasonable and movable contracts... a very good team one star frontcourt player away from true greatness... who knows. We do have Petrie.