We can only hope
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I think he's right. I guess one good thing that has occurred with Bibby/Artest down is that young guys are getting big minutes and experience playing where they MUST produce. There was a good comment made by I don't know who half way through but he said "If you win 1/3 on the road and 2/3 at home...that's a .500 team." Wins are the goal, but if you learn something every time you lose then you can only get better. Tonight, for example, Martin learned an important lesson. Refs rarely if not ever call a regular foul in the last play of the game. Us Kings fans know this because every year there is 1-2 of these kinds of endings where the shooter is hit, not hard but hit none-the-less, and there's no call even if they've been calling it all night.
So let the young guys learn. Another lottery bound season would be a temporary set back, but not a disaster. It could be worse...could be paying Shaq 20+ million a year to slowly decay.
So let the young guys learn. Another lottery bound season would be a temporary set back, but not a disaster. It could be worse...could be paying Shaq 20+ million a year to slowly decay.
startingtohurt
G-League
im going to agree with hubie...we have some good young talent and a great future here in sac. the way martin and garcia (especially) have come along is very promising...
BTW: nice avatar sauce-26
BTW: nice avatar sauce-26
sauce-26
Starter
im going to agree with hubie...we have some good young talent and a great future here in sac. the way martin and garcia (especially) have come along is very promising...
BTW: nice avatar sauce-26
Ya like that huh.
Ya like that huh.
I'm going to have to disagree with Hubie on half. I do think this may be the bottom but I don't think we are in a good position to move forward. To be honest, I think I would rather have almost any other team's situation in the league.
creAtivetfh
Starter
i cant stand listening to hubie. HES SO BORING and OLD
Circa_1985_Fan
All-Star
I dont mind Hubie, he might be a fogey, but he is a lifelong basketball guy that knows the game. I am with the majority when I say we can only HOPE that we're at the bottom of the downslide...the climb back up the mountain hopefully has already begun, and we will see more forward progress both this season and next.
jimbodan
Bench
I think it's way too early to tell if we've hit bottom or not. I'd say the jury is still out on Douby and Cisco and if they either regress or fail to show any progress then those are 2 more players that we need to upgrade. Also we are stuck with Mikki, KT, Brad, and SAR for a few more years and if we continue to start 2 of them as they continue to decline we can still drop down even lower. You also have the issue of Spencer and his potentially terrible knees. If I would have known how many knee surgeries he has had I never would have advocated drafting him. I'd say there is a real strong possibility that his knees are going to derail his career sometime in the near future. On top of all who knows what will happen with Bibby and Artest? If Petrie deals either of them for crap like we got in the Webber deal then we could very well have a long ways to go before we hit bottom.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
I think that depends on where the bottom point was supposedly reached. If he means that last year was the low, and now we are on the way up, that is far from clear. In fact given the injuries and start we will be hardpressed to equal our crap year last year.
If he thinks that this year will be the low, and future years will be on the way up, that's possible. We are 1-4 right now, and not good. but everything that is good has pretty much centered around our young players. Our vets (Salmons excluded) have been useless and/or out with suspension/injury. So you figure even if Geoff wakes up from the hibernation and does something with Ron or Mike or the bigs, it won't make us any worse than we are now. Get a good draft pick, have a GM actually capable of turnign some of those vets into kids or picks or caproom, and it could actually be the bottom.
If he thinks that this year will be the low, and future years will be on the way up, that's possible. We are 1-4 right now, and not good. but everything that is good has pretty much centered around our young players. Our vets (Salmons excluded) have been useless and/or out with suspension/injury. So you figure even if Geoff wakes up from the hibernation and does something with Ron or Mike or the bigs, it won't make us any worse than we are now. Get a good draft pick, have a GM actually capable of turnign some of those vets into kids or picks or caproom, and it could actually be the bottom.
SacKings384
Starter
Once again... We are mixing vets, with young guys. It's just a bad bad move. Although Portland also did it for character reasons, they finally saw that mixing young talent and aging veterans is just a bad move. It leaves little room for the young guys to develop their game.
Example: I think Cisco is a great young talent, that needs to hone his decision making. When Artest comes back, he'll lose significant time, and when Bibby comes back he'll lose even more time.
Douby: He needs time to learn to be a PG. When Bibby comes back, that time will be non-existent.
Example: I think Cisco is a great young talent, that needs to hone his decision making. When Artest comes back, he'll lose significant time, and when Bibby comes back he'll lose even more time.
Douby: He needs time to learn to be a PG. When Bibby comes back, that time will be non-existent.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
I'm not sure that I've ever seen a team that didn't mix vet's and young players. We mixed J. Will and Peja with Webber, Valde, and Christy. The best way to bring along a young player is have him on the floor with an experienced player who will get in his ear when he makes a mistake. I'm also hearing from a lot of people on this board, if this happens or if that happens. My grandfather told me that IF is for children. Deal with what is, right now, and make your judgement.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Teams do it all the time. And the best way for a kid to develop is for him to get time. Vets in front of him = no time. We are of course talking about major vets, as opposed to just some old reolplaying vet kept around to teach.
The example you use of us is off target. Here's what people do not realize about the difference between then and now. That team, that first Kings team of the good era, was composed almost entirely of young players. Fnordius did a thing where he was looking at guys 26 years and uder. At that time? Jwill (starting PG), Wahad (starting OG), Corliss (starting SF) Webber (starting PF) and Peja (6th) were ALL 26 or under. It was a team of kids, none older than Cisco is today except Vlade and then some of the bench guards. Pollard joined too as a 26 and under guy.
Fear the Putin
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But, he makes sense in what he says. Unlike other commentators, he speaks the truth and surprisingly catches every play with great precision. Isnt bias towards any team.
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