Was Douby a wasted pick?
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there is no solution. play the guy!! bottom line. yall are acting as if all of our other rookies have came and torched the place with "saavy" (as our moderators like to say. what the heck does saavy mean anyway) throwdowns and ripping passes. martin, garcia, wallace, mateen, songaila all the others..were crap their first 2-3 years. a few of them are still crap. i dont know, take more minutes from salmons. he's not a starter on an elite team and he's shown he cant produce as well off the bench. move garcia to the 3 to backup ron and thatll free up the spot after martin for the 2. the more quincy plays the better he'll get and the more he'll learn. nash was probably the worst pg in the league when he first started for dallas. HE WAS HOOORRIBLE.
Douby as a PG is/was a bust. But he's got some talent and may still become a valuable player on this or some other NBA team if used properly. In his stints as a Kings PG, he has not shown good court vision. But he has surprising length and decent quickness as a defender, and he has shown that he can score. So as a draft pick, it's too early to call him a bust.
I'd love to have Douby play a season in the D-league strictly at PG - just to see if he can develop something there. But on the Kings, he'll never get enough minutes at PG to develop those skills.
I'd love to have Douby play a season in the D-league strictly at PG - just to see if he can develop something there. But on the Kings, he'll never get enough minutes at PG to develop those skills.
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Yes. Although he became more "wasted" when we signed Salmons that summer. If we didn't like what was on the board, perhaps we should have traded the pick for a pick in a later year, if that was possible (and who knows). But he's definitely the stinker in the recent drafts. I would have much preferred Rondo as a change of pace backup to Bibby.
Unfortunately we can't do that as it will be his third year in the league. We can only do that his first two years. And yes by this point I would consider him a bust since we need a backup PG and there were five taken after that I would rather have:
Daniel Gibson
Rajon Rondo
Jordan Farmar
Sergio Rodriguez
Kyle Lowry
Rondo also was not a sleeper, Boston fans could not believe he fell to him. His knock was his shooting. Well this year:
Player FG% 3PT% PTS
Douby 37.7 33.3 4.4
Rondo 48.1 35.7 10.5
Daniel Gibson
Rajon Rondo
Jordan Farmar
Sergio Rodriguez
Kyle Lowry
Rondo also was not a sleeper, Boston fans could not believe he fell to him. His knock was his shooting. Well this year:
Player FG% 3PT% PTS
Douby 37.7 33.3 4.4
Rondo 48.1 35.7 10.5
Extended minutes does not guarantee better play. Ask Mikki. Douby may or may not be as skilled a player as we hope him to be. But extending his minutes is the only way to find out. Worst case: we move on, and he becomes some other team's Gerald Wallace. However, I don't see that happening, as Wallace was much more of an unknown commodity at the time. With Douby, he's just a shooter.
I think he was a wasted pick, since we drafted 3 shooting guards in a row. The roles that salmons and francisco play are the ones that douby should play, and at this point, i would rather have them in the games than douby. We should have drafted marcus williams. Maybe then we wouldn't have anthony johnson running the court. is it just me or does the team seem to fall off tremendously when he steps on the court? Ide rather have Mikki Moore run the point than him.
I think that's the rub of the problem. Also, given his small size and lack of PG skills, I think he needs a big guard who can handle the ball (like Doug) to be successful. That way he can play 2 on the offense, and guard the opposing team's PG on defense.
I don't know if he shall have a future with us or not, but if he continues to develop and show scoring skills, he can be useful to a team with big PGs (like Detroit, where I think Juan Dixon was brought in for a similar role).
I don't know if he shall have a future with us or not, but if he continues to develop and show scoring skills, he can be useful to a team with big PGs (like Detroit, where I think Juan Dixon was brought in for a similar role).
I really liked him. But he is a great comparison for Douby, because they're both natural scorers who - because of their size - were expected to become PGs. Didn't work for Mays. Probably won't work for Douby. But Petrie probably (always) remembers Terry Porter, where it did work.
So whatever happened to Travis Mays? Didn't we trade him for Spud Webb? Did he end up a bust with the Hawks or what?
So whatever happened to Travis Mays? Didn't we trade him for Spud Webb? Did he end up a bust with the Hawks or what?
His size limits him, but doesn't mean he can't be an effective role player. There are little 2 guard scorers out there with value like Ben Gordon and Jason Terry. Because of his size, Douby is going to have to be such a great scorer and energy guy that you'll want him out there in spurts despite how he limits you in other ways. Supposedly the scoring is what Petrie saw in him. I doubt he will ever be a starter on a decent team
While his size is a part of the issue, you're failing to see the TYPE of player he is. Douby is a shoot-first guard. That's the role he played at Rutgers, which is NOT what the Kings need him to be.
I wouldn't go attacking the other posts, though because of wackiness. SAR has been a starter before...a pretty decent one actually. Garcia is maturing as a player, and it wouldn't surprise me if he were to eventually start. Salmons did OK as a starter.
BTW, there are plenty of tall and lacky [sic] wide receivers in the NFL. It all depends on the system for which they're drafted, which I think is the crux of the argument. Unfortunately, Douby's the square peg in the round hole.
I wouldn't go attacking the other posts, though because of wackiness. SAR has been a starter before...a pretty decent one actually. Garcia is maturing as a player, and it wouldn't surprise me if he were to eventually start. Salmons did OK as a starter.
BTW, there are plenty of tall and lacky [sic] wide receivers in the NFL. It all depends on the system for which they're drafted, which I think is the crux of the argument. Unfortunately, Douby's the square peg in the round hole.
He's in year 2, and he's shown flashes. He won one game almost single handedly. When you think about year 1, he's made a big jump of improvement in year 2. I would expect the same in year 3. It would be nice if he got 20 minutes of playing time per game for the rest of the year to give him more experience, but it's doubtful Theus will do that for all the old reasons. I wish we would play him at the point and the 2-guard this year because we have absolutely nothing to lose by doing it. He just needs to work more on ball handling, and after that just needs experience.
Next year will tell the tale.
Next year will tell the tale.