[Trade] Warriors have obvious Jonathan Kuminga trade demand after latest Kings reports

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Jonathan Kuminga is reportedly open-minded to the idea of joining the Sacramento Kings as the uncertain future of the Golden State Warriors forward continues on further. ESPN reported on Thursday that Kuminga is in no rush to sign a deal with the Warriors, leaving the door open for the Sacramento Kings and Phoenix Suns to continue exploring sign-and-trade opportunities. The Warriors still have the leverage of Kuminga being a restricted free agent and have thus far balked at offers from both teams, yet that could change if the Kings were to give in on an obvious trade demand.

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whether Kuminga ends up in the Kings or not

It is certain warriors fans are going to be extremely disappointed by the end of this.

They aren’t getting Keegan Murray. I suppose it’s possible the Kings could cave on Keon but I’m not even sure how a Keon trade would work.

Devin Carter, Saric, and a protected first is actually a very good haul considering the circumstances and how low everybody knows the Warriors value Kuminga and how they absolutely don’t want to pay him.

The holdout is all because Warriors fans hold Kuminga in very high regard
 
The problem with the Warriors is that always think they are the smartest team in the league. I’m going to LMAO when Kuminga signs the QO and is so peeved at the Warriors that he leaves them next summer and they get nothing in return.
 
I don’t even understand how the proposed trade would work considering Jk is around 25 mil a year. Sending 11 mil and a pick doesn’t add up. Seems the obvious answer would be include Derozen to Miami and maybe throw in an extra 2nd rounder to GS from Miami but not sure if Miami can just take on salary either so a player would have to move Rozier is the mentioned player. That would put us taking on additional 2 mil for 1 season. So bringing in 27 mil and sending out around 11 mil. How do we have the space
 
I’m not gonna lie all this media so-called analysis that essentially act as an echo chamber is starting to feel like the George Karl for coach campaign. It’s not quite as embarrassing as the washed up old man standing in the parking lot with a sign that read “will coach for food,” but pretty close. I’m not opposed to JK, in fact, I think he probably is the best option of the available forwards to straighten the ship assuming we can dump overpriced guard/Small forward salary to get it done. But this incessant echoing of analysis just gives me the creeps.
 
Honestly, if the Kings really want Kuminga a Keon/ lightly protected 1st package is not unreasonable. The reality is the Kings can't look at this as a normal sign and trade because the Kings have no leverage since they have no space. They will have no space next season either more than likely. This is a trade for a young player you clearly think enough of to convince him he's the man for your team. Just get it done or move on.
 
ockingsfan said:
The problem with the Warriors is that always think they are the smartest team in the league. I’m going to LMAO when Kuminga signs the QO and is so peeved at the Warriors that he leaves them next summer and they get nothing in return.
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Could happen. If the Kings want him and are willing to wait it'll likely cost a lot more than the wants from the Warriors to clear enough cap to make a run at him next summer.
 
SacTownKid said:
Honestly, if the Kings really want Kuminga a Keon/ lightly protected 1st package is not unreasonable. The reality is the Kings can't look at this as a normal sign and trade because the Kings have no leverage since they have no space. They will have no space next season either more than likely. This is a trade for a young player you clearly think enough of to convince him he's the man for your team. Just get it done or move on.
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I personally wouldn’t mind it. Keon is better than Carter at the moment but I think Carter can turn out to be the better player on both ends, and he’s under contract. Mostly because I’m not entirely confident that the Kings will have Keon beyond this season.

So it might turn out to be another thing like Fox, Tyrese, Davion where we think we have too many point guards and then woke up one day with zero point guards.

Kings have too many 6’3 combo guards but can just as easily enter the 26/27 season with zero if we trade Carter because the upcoming unrestricted free agent(who might be bitter about a cheap team option being picked up instead of being extended this offseason) was deemed untouchable.
 
Kingz19 said:
I personally wouldn’t mind it. Keon is better than Carter at the moment but I think Carter can turn out to be the better player on both ends, and he’s under contract. Mostly because I’m not entirely confident that the Kings will have Keon beyond this season.

So it might turn out to be another thing like Fox, Tyrese, Davion where we think we have too many point guards and then woke up one day with zero point guards.

Kings have too many 6’3 combo guards but can just as easily enter the 26/27 season with zero if we trade Carter because the upcoming unrestricted free agent(who might be bitter about a cheap team option being picked up instead of being extended this offseason) was deemed untouchable.
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If the Kings want Keon they'll pay up. I still think the biggest reason Carter should be something the Kings consider an asset for themselves is the contract. Trading Keon would alleviate the responsibility of paying Keon which if this doesn't work could end up being a good thing potentially. The only real thing that could end up a disaster is if the Kings have to rebuild from scratch around Kuminga, Keon, and Keegan with them potentially taking up half the salary cap. Yes, there would still be some space but we've seen the Kings go around this same wheel before. It's a tight window if a team doesn't just rebuild the right way from the bottom up. We saw a rookie contract wasted with Cuz, we saw it with Fox. Starting to actually build around star players while still on bargain contracts is vastly important. The Kings consistently would go out and just load up the cap with role guys in an effort to "compete" their way into building a "winning culture". They consistently ended up building a middling culture by stonewalling themselves from building a legit talent core. Now the NBA isn't messing around, you better have good contracts on your books. Overpaying backups and role players is a death sentence these days.
 
SacTownKid said:
If the Kings want Keon they'll pay up. I still think the biggest reason Carter should be something the Kings consider an asset for themselves is the contract. Trading Keon would alleviate the responsibility of paying Keon which if this doesn't work could end up being a good thing potentially. The only real thing that could end up a disaster is if the Kings have to rebuild from scratch around Kuminga, Keon, and Keegan with them potentially taking up half the salary cap. Yes, there would still be some space but we've seen the Kings go around this same wheel before. It's a tight window if a team doesn't just rebuild the right way from the bottom up. We saw a rookie contract wasted with Cuz, we saw it with Fox. Starting to actually build around star players while still on bargain contracts is vastly important. The Kings consistently would go out and just load up the cap with role guys in an effort to "compete" their way into building a "winning culture". They consistently ended up building a middling culture by stonewalling themselves from building a legit talent core. Now the NBA isn't messing around, you better have good contracts on your books. Overpaying backups and role players is a death sentence these days.
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No you do not trade young players to field a veteran team to the 12th seed!!!
 
MizzouKing said:
It's amazing how much "news" coverage so many can create from "JK met with Kings over zoom, convo went well."
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No kidding. But I am going to add another:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...onathan-Kuminga-Two-Year-$40-Million-Contract

Kuminga reportedly wants $30 million per year. The Warriors want a first-round draft pick, but the Suns do not have one. The Kings have a first-round draft pick, but the Warriors have frowned on the offer of Carter + Šarić + a draft pick. They also have "zero interest" in Malik Monk. And so it goes round and round like a carousel.
 
By the way, Josh Giddey and the Chicago Bulls are $8-10 million per year apart on contract negotiations. Giddey is also a restricted free agent diving head-first into the cold waters of the new CBA. The difference from the Warriors is that Chicago really wants to keep him around.
 
The Warriors deserve a lot of credit for drafting Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, and Draymond Green from 2009 to 2012 but their draft history since then has been pretty abysmal, especially with their #2 pick (James Wiseman) and their #7 and #14 picks (Kuminga and Moses Moody) in 2020 and 2021. Those were the picks which were supposed to extend their dynasty and instead they've forced them to pivot hard into relying on aging veterans to carry the load. Jonathan Kuminga is the only one of those guys who even looks like an NBA starter and they don't seem all that interested in keeping him. The idea that they're in any kind of a position to demand another team's best young player in a sign and trade is laughable but I think we've all got a pretty good idea how the Warriors' fanbase sees the world at this point so just more of the same really.
 
hrdboild said:
The Warriors deserve a lot of credit for drafting Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, and Draymond Green from 2009 to 2012 but their draft history since then has been pretty abysmal, especially with their #2 pick (James Wiseman) and their #7 and #14 picks (Kuminga and Moses Moody) in 2020 and 2021. Those were the picks which were supposed to extend their dynasty and instead they've forced them to pivot hard into relying on aging veterans to carry the load. Jonathan Kuminga is the only one of those guys who even looks like an NBA starter and they don't seem all that interested in keeping him. The idea that they're in any kind of a position to demand another team's best young player in a sign and trade is laughable but I think we've all got a pretty good idea how the Warriors' fanbase sees the world at this point so just more of the same really.
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How quickly they forget lol the Warriors draft history before Curry was an abomination as well. Many of them are bandwagon fans so of course there ain't a humble or knowledgable bone in their body
 
Caccia said:
By the way, Josh Giddey and the Chicago Bulls are $8-10 million per year apart on contract negotiations. Giddey is also a restricted free agent diving head-first into the cold waters of the new CBA. The difference from the Warriors is that Chicago really wants to keep him around.
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Giddey has been on my radar for quite awhile now.... seems unlikely, but that's a move I would be on board with!
 
Caccia said:
No kidding. But I am going to add another:

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...onathan-Kuminga-Two-Year-$40-Million-Contract

Kuminga reportedly wants $30 million per year. The Warriors want a first-round draft pick, but the Suns do not have one. The Kings have a first-round draft pick, but the Warriors have frowned on the offer of Carter + Šarić + a draft pick. They also have "zero interest" in Malik Monk. And so it goes round and round like a carousel.
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That deal is only like 10 million off for those two seasons. The Warriors are just putting him right where they want him financially. They did the same thing to Moody and got him back on a pretty good contract. It just shows you how bad some of the Kings signings were. No market? No problem, here's the check, you fill in the zeroes.
 
admira1 said:
Granted this was a couple weeks ago but last I saw he was looking for ~$30 and that since, the sides have still been 8-10 off
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I haven't been paying careful attention but I guess it's an easy enough mistake to make ... 16 for 22 and a couple years inflation you're almost 30.
 
The_Jamal said:
DDR? I thought Monk was the guy getting floated in the DC package?

Who knows at this point man. Let the Warriors burn at this point and deal with Kuminga into the year. They're being stupid with this whole situation.
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That's exactly what I'm saying. It kind of feels like we are starting to become desperate. The only reason I can see Perry continuously push is if they truly see Kuminga as "the" guy for the Kings
 
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