Maybe the most delusional RSS feed take yet so I moved it here.
For eff’s sake, this article has said in Perry’s time as GM with Kings, he’s made some questionable moves including trading Fox to SA. And calling him desperate. Again goes to prove that anyone can write an article without facts.
As the Golden State Warriors have tried to find a resolution to their Jonathan Kuminga conundrum this offseason, a serious suitor has emerged who could relieve the team of their worries. Although a deal getting done sooner rather than later would likely be in Golden State's best interest, they can afford to wait given their considerable leverage in this situation.
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This is the same website that declared Devin Carter was a bust after the first summer league game and then immediately did an about face after the second one so it’s par for the course for them lolFor eff’s sake, this article has said in Perry’s time as GM with Kings, he’s made some questionable moves including trading Fox to SA. And calling him desperate. Again goes to prove that anyone can write an article without facts.
This is the same website that declared Devin Carter was a bust after the first summer league game and then immediately did an about face after the second one so it’s par for the course for them lol
His argument is that the Spurs would be sending out the exact same package that they sent out in reality and receiving the exact same package they received, so the trade should work from their point of view. I don't see how to argue against that.The Kings would be sending out more money than the Spurs could take in.
Collins 16.7His argument is that the Spurs would be sending out the exact same package that they sent out in reality and receiving the exact same package they received, so the trade should work from their point of view. I don't see how to argue against that.
The return on that trade is pretty bad, considering we were still trying to compete. That would have been a throw-in-the-towel move, and we all understand that realistically Vivek was not going to do that. And even then, it would have left us with plenty of work to do to clear salary to sign Kuminga outright.
Basically we wind up stuck with Huerter (and I am sorry, but where we were at with Huerter - thanks Brown, Monte, whoever f'd it up - we needed to move him) and all we get extra out of it is the 12th pick in this draft while not getting a single useable or movable contract in return.His argument is that the Spurs would be sending out the exact same package that they sent out in reality and receiving the exact same package they received, so the trade should work from their point of view. I don't see how to argue against that.
The return on that trade is pretty bad, considering we were still trying to compete. That would have been a throw-in-the-towel move, and we all understand that realistically Vivek was not going to do that. And even then, it would have left us with plenty of work to do to clear salary to sign Kuminga outright.
I assume having 3 teams in allowed for some salary cap shenanigans that your standard two team deals don't?Collins 16.7
Tre Jones 9.1
Sidy 1.9
27.7 million dollars
De’Aaron Fox 34.8 mil
Unless I’m not mathing right (which to be fair, I’m probably not), doesn’t that barely not match the criteria for trade salary matching under the CBA?
How exactly wouldn't that work? That's exactly what the Spurs gave up and got Fox.The Kings would be sending out more money than the Spurs could take in.
A year later and people really think that Chicago side was good for us?
Its impossible to argue that in good faith. Matt George, James Ham, whoever you like - has already reported there is literally zero takers for LaVine at any price.
I'd surely take 36 million in expirings + the #12 overall pick for LaVine and Perry would also.
We're 57 million over the cap so wouldn't do us much good. Do I like the deal? No. Do I like LaVine's salary? Also no. Is he a good fit on this roster as constructed? That would be strike three.I'd surely take 36 million in expirings + the #12 overall pick for LaVine and Perry would also.
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But from our cap perspective then you still have Kevin Huerter. So yeah, we bring in $27M in expiring, but we aren't under cap because we would have still had Huerter.Collins 16.7
Tre Jones 9.1
Sidy 1.9
27.7 million dollars
De’Aaron Fox 34.8 mil
Unless I’m not mathing right (which to be fair, I’m probably not), doesn’t that barely not match the criteria for trade salary matching under the CBA?
But from our cap perspective then you still have Kevin Huerter. So yeah, we bring in $27M in expiring, but we aren't under cap because we would have still had Huerter.
Again, could we today trade LaVine for 36 million in expirings (50+ million savings over 2 years) + The #12 pick?We're 57 million over the cap so wouldn't do us much good. Do I like the deal? No. Do I like LaVine's salary? Also no. Is he a good fit on this roster as constructed? That would be strike three.
He's also a good player and not dead money.
How would that be the case. The trade doesn’t change from the Spurs standpoint. They send out and receive the same players.The Kings would be sending out more money than the Spurs could take in.
For our team, in my opinion, it would have been better than the LaVine contract, as we could have used the pick or traded another pick to move salary and picked up Kuminga via an offer.His argument is that the Spurs would be sending out the exact same package that they sent out in reality and receiving the exact same package they received, so the trade should work from their point of view. I don't see how to argue against that.
The return on that trade is pretty bad, considering we were still trying to compete. That would have been a throw-in-the-towel move, and we all understand that realistically Vivek was not going to do that. And even then, it would have left us with plenty of work to do to clear salary to sign Kuminga outright.
Contracts that expire have a value if you can then use the space in free agency. What you were potentially getting with just a little bit of foresight was the ability to make an offer for Kuminga with very little competition.Basically we wind up stuck with Huerter (and I am sorry, but where we were at with Huerter - thanks Brown, Monte, whoever f'd it up - we needed to move him) and all we get extra out of it is the 12th pick in this draft while not getting a single useable or movable contract in return.
You can blame Vivek for wanting some star power but unless he was willing to cut STH prices in half that is an unacceptably bad return even in the situation we were in. Plus a complete and total slap in the face to Monk, DDR and Domas and might be sending the wrong signals to Keegan and Keon.
Nobody on any of the process type rosters survived those rebuilds.
He's not even the dumbest owner in the NBA right now but you all do you.So instead we get the dumbest owner in sports building a fantasy team.
It wouldn’t shock me if that feed is AI generated. The “writers” have social media pages but have zero history or engagement in the warriors fan or media community..and the articles are just so misinformed about both the Warriors and Kings.This is the same website that declared Devin Carter was a bust after the first summer league game and then immediately did an about face after the second one so it’s par for the course for them lol
My point is that you don't ask a dog to carry your packs across the desert and you don't ask a camel to hunt. Vivek is what he is - call him the camel - but you insist on trying to frame every single thing this franchise does as if he were the dog. He's not the dog. If you keep trying to analyze his moves as if he's the dog, you're not going to get anywhere. You have to put yourself in the shoes of the camel.In my opinion, LaVine prevented us from making moves and could well have cost us Keon. The fact the worst owner in sports wouldn’t have done it is hardly an argument that it was not a better move.
While I usually agree with you, I think that trading Fox when we did was the right move. He was becoming a major distraction to the franchise and if we didn't trade him then we're sitting right now with "mystery injury" Fox demanding a trade AND a max extension. LaVine's contract is much more tolerable than what Fox was demanding (and just got because: Klutch).
Sometimes you really can't win. I think that's where we were. And if that's the case, get out early if you can.
Collins 16.7
Tre Jones 9.1
Sidy 1.9
27.7 million dollars
De’Aaron Fox 34.8 mil
Unless I’m not mathing right (which to be fair, I’m probably not), doesn’t that barely not match the criteria for trade salary matching under the CBA?
Outgoing salary | Maximum incoming salary |
$0 - $7.375M | (Outgoing x 2) + $250K |
$7.375M - $29M | Outgoing + $7.5M |
$29M - Any | (Outgoing x 1.25) + $250K |
How do you define dead money? He is a negative value contract and a poor fit with the other players on this roster. We still lack forwards of any potential past Keegan.We're 57 million over the cap so wouldn't do us much good. Do I like the deal? No. Do I like LaVine's salary? Also no. Is he a good fit on this roster as constructed? That would be strike three.
He's also a good player and not dead money.
Dead money is money going to players that don't play, Zach is a starter on at least 20 teams in this league.How do you define dead money? He is a negative value contract and a poor fit with the other players on this roster. We still lack forwards of any potential past Keegan.
My point is that you don't ask a dog to carry your packs across the desert and you don't ask a camel to hunt. Vivek is what he is - call him the camel - but you insist on trying to frame every single thing this franchise does as if he were the dog. He's not the dog. If you keep trying to analyze his moves as if he's the dog, you're not going to get anywhere. You have to put yourself in the shoes of the camel.
Zach is not even on the roster for 29 other teams at that price.Dead money is money going to players that don't play, Zach is a starter on at least 20 teams in this league.