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[troosvelt]

Ok, this is a huge trade and on the surface it seems a little odd. Philly seems to have gotten the better of the deal.

But let's give it a few days to review.

Webber was a great part of the Kings but by all accounts he was hurting team chemistry.

And while the new players are not a huge salary savings, they do take 1 huge contract and divides it into several smaller ones. So this may be a long term thing.

Let's be brutally honest here, we are 2/3rds through the season and given our current record and prospects, this wasn't going to be a championship year. Get mad at me for saying it if you want, but it's true.

So look to some trades over the summer.

Short term this is not the best deal for the Kings, it's clearly a shakeup deal.

But long term I think its a great opportunity to rebuild and expand.

Remember, when Webber was traded here there were lots of people who thought it was an insane deal. In fact almost every deal has been controversial.

So give it some time.

 

[bigbadred00]

Corliss, KENNY and Brian all have atleast 3 years left making decent money. How exactly does it help us?

 

[troosvelt]

Corliss, KENNY and Brian all have atleast 3 years left making decent money. How exactly does it help us?

Well as I said I think we need to take a few days to really absorb all the details.

But with Webber you had one $ 100 million contract with an injured player.

Now we have one $ 40-50 million, one $ 10-20 million and one $ 10 million (my numbers are rough from what I've been able to gather)

Three parts are easier to work into a trade deal than one big contract. In addition, the contracts all end as soon as or earlier than Webbers, so we aren't locked in any longer, even if no trades occur.

Basically I think this deal depends on whether you thought the current roster was capable of a title or if you thought they needed a change. Because absent this trade things would have remained status quo for the next 3 seasons.

Again, I'm not saying its a good or bad deal. My analysis above is certainly balanced by the fact that the new players aren't as talented as Chris, and I said as much in my first post.

 

[G_M]

Corliss, KENNY and Brian all have atleast 3 years left making decent money. How exactly does it help us?

It helps because it's much easier to trade a smaller contract. Individually those players have salaries in line with other NBA players with simlar experience.

Webb had a bad wheel and a monster contract.

GOOD TRADE!

 

[Bricklayer]

Those players have next to NO trade value. THAT is what makes it a B.S. trade. You want to dump Webber? Dump him for an ending contract and a pick or something. Don't pick up random garbage.

I wait with baited breath to see what Kenny Thomas can bring in return in trade.

Maybe we can combine the three of them and get back Allan Houston!!

 

[ReinadelosReys]

Ok, this is a huge trade and on the surface it seems a little odd. Philly seems to have gotten the better of the deal.

But let's give it a few days to review.

Webber was a great part of the Kings but by all accounts he was hurting team chemistry.

And while the new players are not a huge salary savings, they do take 1 huge contract and divides it into several smaller ones. So this may be a long term thing.

Let's be brutally honest here, we are 2/3rds through the season and given our current record and prospects, this wasn't going to be a championship year. Get mad at me for saying it if you want, but it's true.

So look to some trades over the summer.

Short term this is not the best deal for the Kings, it's clearly a shakeup deal.

But long term I think its a great opportunity to rebuild and expand.

Remember, when Webber was traded here there were lots of people who thought it was an insane deal. In fact almost every deal has been controversial.

So give it some time.

We can only deal with what we have now, troos. Right now it hurts. It hurts bad.

 

[SacTownKid]

Plus as great as Webber was in the offense, he was equally as liable on the defensive end. Now we have some better defenders and maybe just enough scoring and cohesion to win it all. Maybe we got our Rasheed but in three different dudes.

 

[sloter]

Those players have next to NO trade value. THAT is what makes it a B.S. trade. You want to dump Webber? Dump him for an ending contract and a pick or something.

You think that was easy to do ??? If it was so, I'm sure Petrie would have done someting about it.

 

[GoGoGadget]

But long term I think its a great opportunity to rebuild and expand.

Does a team ranked #5 in the west in February really need to rebuild, though?

Does a team that is, even after all the recent struggles, still 14 games over .500 really need to rebuild?

Move a few pieces? Sure.

Address some issues? Definitely.

But, rebuild???

I don't like it. I just feels like a trade that was getting rid of Chris for the sake of getting rid of Chris. Maybe that's the emotion talking. Maybe I'll feel different in a few days. But, as of right now, I don't like it.

 

[troosvelt]

A team that hasn't gotten over the hump after several seasons of trying. A team that is struggling to be in 5th. Yeah, I think either you decide to be content with being a bridesmaid but never a bride or you reorganize.

 

[webberfan]

Plus as great as Webber was in the offense, he was equally as liable on the defensive end. Now we have some better defenders and maybe just enough scoring and cohesion to win it all. Maybe we got our Rasheed but in three different dudes.

the only way this team, as presently composed, even sees the trophy is from the same vantage point we all here have ... from their tv sets. sorry to be brutally honest, but a championship is not happening this year.

 

[Kool Keith]

we're getting 3 staunch rebounders in return.. that should solve some rebounding issues. scoring was never a problem

 

[ovrush]

Staunch rebounders???
Have looked at their numbers this year let alone seen them play before you say that?

 

[JayBird]

Ok, this is a huge trade and on the surface it seems a little odd. Philly seems to have gotten the better of the deal.

But let's give it a few days to review.

Webber was a great part of the Kings but by all accounts he was hurting team chemistry.

And while the new players are not a huge salary savings, they do take 1 huge contract and divides it into several smaller ones. So this may be a long term thing.

Let's be brutally honest here, we are 2/3rds through the season and given our current record and prospects, this wasn't going to be a championship year. Get mad at me for saying it if you want, but it's true.

So look to some trades over the summer.

Short term this is not the best deal for the Kings, it's clearly a shakeup deal.

But long term I think its a great opportunity to rebuild and expand.

Remember, when Webber was traded here there were lots of people who thought it was an insane deal. In fact almost every deal has been controversial.

So give it some time.

Really? Hurting team chemistry? Was he demanding more touches? Was he demanding a trade?

If anything, after Vlade left, Webber was the cog in holding the team chemistry in tact. This trade sucks on the surface, and it will suck a week from now, when we have all cooled off and been able to think about it with a clear head.

 

[HndsmCelt]

If Petrie wants to rebuild fine... dump Webber for old deadwood contract that expire. Sloter you claim that was harder than stated... maybe so, certinly when many of us said Webber was untradeable this summer while others demanded he be traded this is what we meant. He could not be traded for anything except long contracts on underperformers, we just assumend Petrie would never take such a trade. Now the money to rebuild is tied up so that is out of the question and the Kings have no decent PF 3 aveerage ones... sorry I jsut don't see this as a positive. Maybe I'll change my tone after a few games but tonight I don't see a team that can compeet or rebuild.

 

[GoGoGadget]

I am suddenly amused by the fact that so many people on this message board spent so much time debating and arguing over the fact that we'd never trade Webb because we'd never be able to get something of equal value in return.

Who'd have known it didn't matter??

 

[VF21]

I am suddenly amused by the fact that so many people on this message board spent so much time debating and arguing over the fact that we'd never trade Webb because we'd never be able to get something of equal value in return.

Who'd have known it didn't matter??

Irony can be so ironic sometimes...and so damned painful.