vs. Denver post-quotes...

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Kings Coach Rick Adelman
“I thought our guys did a good job of following the game plan that we wanted to follow with (Denver). We wanted to control the tempo and make them guard us. We had over 20 fast break points and tonight they only had 12 – that was a big part of it. Down the stretch, Ron (Artest) made some good decisions. The guys were cutting and being active and they got a lot of things. It was a good win; obviously it was a win we really needed.”

”With smaller people you can post up bigger people and get around them. At the end of the game when you’re going to go to a player, he has to be able to make a play for himself, make free throws, and make plays. (Artest) is very willing to do that and it gives us something we really haven’t had – a guy you can put on the floor to break people down. I think as we get more used to it and have a chance to work on things we’re going to be able to get things out of it. Like I said, we’re just kind of going on the fly right here. Yesterday I gave them the day off even though it’s important to get on the floor. We were just on a 10-day trip and the guys just needed to get their legs back. So now we have a couple days and hopefully we’ll be able to do what we want to do.”

“(Kevin Martin) came in, he was aggressive, and he made shots. If we’re going to be successful, we’re going to need those guys to step up off the bench and I think he really gave us a lift in the second quarter. I think Brian (Skinner) did a good job on the boards; Kenny (Thomas) was good on the boards all night. Having Bonzi (Wells) back is a big difference – 14 rebounds – so it’s good to have those guys and maybe someday we’ll get Brad (Miller) back and we’ll have everybody.”

”Well we’ve lost a lot and with Brad (Miller) out, because Shareef (Abdur-Rahim)’s back, they think he’s ‘back,’ and maybe sometimes he really shouldn’t be. He’s lost a lot so much weight and if you watch him, he’s not as explosive.”


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Kevin Martin
“I was just being aggressive. It’s definitely harder to find your rhythm coming off the bench. I had started the past 19 or 20 games, but you’ve got to give yourself a chance coming off the bench, so I’m going to be a little bit different. Yeah, there’s no doubt now that I’m going to have to score off the bench.”


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Ron Artest
“I did what I had to do to draw a double-teams on me, and pass to the open guy and anyone of the guys can make something happen. I was more focused on playing with Bonzi (Wells). It was my first time playing with him, so we had to get a rhythm going together. I just wanted to make sure that my focus was on the game at all times. I caught myself being in the moment at times. First home game’s over with and now we can focus on our goals - which is making the playoffs.”

“It was good. We needed it bad and this win was very important. We can go far as long as we play together. We played together tonight. The thing I like about this team is that we all have confidence in each other. Guys take shots, nobody gets down and we all get back and we just play. My first two games were not as comfortable as I wanted them to be, but today was more comfortable. First game, I took a lot of jump shots and that’s not really my game. I just got to get comfortable shooting and attacking the rim.”


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Bonzi Wells
“I’ve been ready to go for like a week or so. But our trainer just wanted to make sure that I wasn’t feeling any pain when I was going up and down the court. You have to do everything basketball style, like slide on defense, running and stopping in opposite directions. He (the trainer) wanted to make sure I could do all that with no pain. He just told me to wait another week until I’m totally healed. It felt good today. Even though I couldn’t hit those shots, it still felt good.”

“Ron’s a great player to play with. You saw what he did today. He’s a great inside-out player, he’s a great teammate and he’s a great defender. He really put the clamps on Carmelo Anthony in the first half and late in the fourth quarter. He made big stops for us. He encouraged us as a team to get stops too. That’s what we needed right there, a guy that’s going to get in our face a little bit. It was refreshing. He’s a load. He’s going to help us out in so many ways, especially on the defensive end.”

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/Postgame_Quotesvs_Denver-166638-58.html


Love the Artest/Bonzi quotes!

Cool of Rick to actually recognize Skinner... I hope Skinner plays or starts in the next two games vs. Utah, preferrably starting. Don't know about SAR subbing for Brad at all..
 
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Aww Bonzi and Artest are bonding....how sweet lol. That's great. I figured Bonzi would like Artest for what he brings and Vice Versa. Now Maloofs and Petrie get on resigning Bonzi please. If you resign Bonzi at the end of the year I think you guys have had a successful year of moves. Pieces are starting to fall into place. The method to the madness is starting to show. Still a bit more work to do, but you can only do so much at at time.
 
Fillmoe said:
its official we have a leader!

We can't have Artest as the ONLY leader on the team at this point. Sorry, but a leader needs to be more stable... Bibby needs to step it up big time, or he'll lose control.
 
Bibby/Corliss/Bonzi have shown they can be leaders.

That's why I always groan when someone says "Sac doesn't have anyone in that organization that can keep Artest cool." I don't think that will be needed much, honestly.
 
Kings113 said:
Bibby/Corliss/Bonzi have shown they can be leaders.

That's why I always groan when someone says "Sac doesn't have anyone in that organization that can keep Artest cool." I don't think that will be needed much, honestly.

None of those guys has the stature or personality to keep Artest under control if he decides to go off. Corliss might have the only real chance with the combo clean history/NBA title, but its doubtful. The others -- Mike has no discernible personality, and Bonzi is maybe 6 months off of being a bad boy himself. He basically is standing in a glass house.

As long as Artest behaves and wants to start playing leader himself, and as long as Bibby in particular does not resent it, maybe they can form a leadership cabal of sorts. But nobody there has the staature of a Webb or personality of a Vlade to be able to put out an Artest-scale fire if he starts being a miscreant again.
 
Artest
"First home game’s over with and now we can focus on our goals - which is making the playoffs.”

"First game, I took a lot of jump shots and that’s not really my game. I just got to get comfortable shooting and attacking the rim.”

I love these two quotes. I think Im going to purchase the Artest t-shirt. :)
 
Bricklayer said:
None of those guys has the stature or personality to keep Artest under control if he decides to go off. Corliss might have the only real chance with the combo clean history/NBA title, but its doubtful. The others -- Mike has no discernible personality, and Bonzi is maybe 6 months off of being a bad boy himself. He basically is standing in a glass house.

As long as Artest behaves and wants to start playing leader himself, and as long as Bibby in particular does not resent it, maybe they can form a leadership cabal of sorts. But nobody there has the staature of a Webb or personality of a Vlade to be able to put out an Artest-scale fire if he starts being a miscreant again.
Yeh Webb or Vlade would have been the man, but I would not rule Brad out yet. Sure he gets a little hot headded on the court when he does not like the officiating but it's never a meltdown, and when it's the other guys he usualy is there to help. He has history with Ron and it seems that Ron has some trust and respect for Brad. Not a perfect solution but like I siad I would NOT rule him out. One little observation from Tuesday's game. When Ror got a little hot about a call was talking (calmly) with the ref Reef came over to check on him saw Ron was in controll and backed off. It seemed that Reef handled things perfectly showing both concern and respect so hemight be another possible handler.

The thing about human relationships and roles in groups is that they change and when members of the group leave and enter the roles often chance. It well be that while Brad (or Bibby, Reef etc.) was clearly incabable of being a leader on and off court in the Pre-Ron days that he may be fully able to move into a locker room leader and on court stablizing force and to be honest the only way to know is let them go and watch. Human subjects are very, very unpridictable trust me on this one!;)
 
I really like this

"We can go far as long as we play together. We played together tonight. "


that's KINGS basketball. and he gets it.
 
SacKings384 said:
We can't have Artest as the ONLY leader on the team at this point. Sorry, but a leader needs to be more stable... Bibby needs to step it up big time, or he'll lose control.

That's just silly IMHO.

First, Artest is a Warrior King. He's exactly what this team has needed on the court to be the leader. And, interestingly enough, being the undisputed leader could actually go a long ways towards keeping Artest stable.

Bibby never really wanted to be the leader. He's not the outgoing spokesman. He's the hired gun with ice water in his veins who comes in and fights beside the Warrior King.

What we all saw Tuesday night was a TEAM. They were involved, they were talking, they were gladly following Artest's lead.

Why? Because they are well aware that they need someone like him who will set the tone and put it all out there every night, pretty much daring each of the rest of them to either step up and follow his lead OR be left behind.

Artest as the leader? Hell, I'll crown him Emperor of the Universe if it will guarantee more of what we saw Tuesday night.

And I honestly feel this is just the beginning...

;)

Artest said:
We can go far as long as we play together. We played together tonight. The thing I like about this team is that we all have confidence in each other.

They were TRUSTING each other on the court and we haven't seen that in a very long time. And that's good for the Kings and the fans. And it's bad news for the opposition.
 
We can't base Artest's leadership off of one game. A leader is more than a guy that can be one when they are winning. Sorry, but I don't think Ron is capable of being a leader if the Kings flop hard... Winning heals all, but the true test is when you start losing...
 
SacKings384 said:
We can't base Artest's leadership off of one game. A leader is more than a guy that can be one when they are winning. Sorry, but I don't think Ron is capable of being a leader if the Kings flop hard... Winning heals all, but the true test is when you start losing...

But I think a lot of the losing was because of lack of leadership. I, too, agree with VF21 about him looking like the leader we might need out there. If he steps into the role and helps us as the floor general, I'm all for it.
 
SacKings384 said:
We can't base Artest's leadership off of one game. A leader is more than a guy that can be one when they are winning. Sorry, but I don't think Ron is capable of being a leader if the Kings flop hard... Winning heals all, but the true test is when you start losing...

He was already doing a pretty good job the first two games that we lost.

Sorry, but I think Artest is exactly what this team has been needing. I also think he hates to lose, which is a good thing. A true warrior does hate to lose. If the Kings lose, I'd expect Artest to be upset about it. You're acting like he's going to climb the clock tower with an automatic weapon, however, and I think that's just gross exaggeration.

And to say "the true test is when you start losing" is one of those comments that sounds okay but actually has little basis in fact. Teams win; teams lose. As long as the losing team has tried hard, etc. there's no rationalization whatsoever for the assumption that everything will fall apart again.

Yes, it's early but your original contention was that Bibby is going to lose control. It was primarily to that comment that my responses were addressed. Bibby never HAD control of this team in any way. He said he'd be the leader, but I do not think he ever expected or would have been able to truly be the strong guiding force on the court of his fellow players. It's just not in his make-up.

Artest in just three games (winning and losing) has looked more like a leader than Bibby ever could. And that's not a slam on Bibby. Artest is just that kind of player. It's easy to tell the difference.
 
SacKings384 said:
We can't base Artest's leadership off of one game. A leader is more than a guy that can be one when they are winning. Sorry, but I don't think Ron is capable of being a leader if the Kings flop hard... Winning heals all, but the true test is when you start losing...
Ron endured two hard losses his first two games. He didn't slouch on the bench, but instead was cheering on his team by the scorers table when they were making a run. When was the last time you saw a King do that? When was the last time you saw a Kings player call a "team" huddle in the middle of the court? Ron brings heart and the others are following his example.
 
Bibby_10 said:
I love these two quotes. I think Im going to purchase the Artest t-shirt. :)
yup, I'll be using part of my tax return on getting an Artest and Bonzi authentic jerseys made at the Arco team store the next game I go to...against the Lakers!!;) And probably a few more in the coming months, too.......hey...the only jersey I have of Kings players that are still on the team is Brad...I have 4 Webber jerseys and 2 Peja's, 2 Richmonds....gotta get in with da' new! :D
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
yup, I'll be using part of my tax return on getting an Artest and Bonzi authentic jerseys made at the Arco team store the next game I go to...against the Lakers!!;) And probably a few more in the coming months, too.......hey...the only jersey I have of Kings players that are still on the team is Brad...I have 4 Webber jerseys and 2 Peja's, 2 Richmonds....gotta get in with da' new! :D

If that's the Lakers game in March, its all good. If you are going to the one down in L.A. later this month might hold off on that Bonzi jersey. I really like the guy, but can't be 100% sure that he will be here after the trade deadline with his free agent status and the Kevin question lingering.
 
Bricklayer said:
If that's the Lakers game in March, its all good. If you are going to the one down in L.A. later this month might hold off on that Bonzi jersey. I really like the guy, but can't be 100% sure that he will be here after the trade deadline with his free agent status and the Kevin question lingering.
guess we'll have to wait a few weeks and see what happens...I would like to think that if we dont trade Bonzi by the deadline, that that would be a sign that we would be resigning him in the offseason. all up to the big brother's Maloof and their wallet, unfortunately.
 
Neither do I. The Maloofs wouldn't go for it.

Unless things spiral downhill fast and this team looks like it needs significant changes still.
 
SacTownKid said:
Neither do I. The Maloofs wouldn't go for it.

Unless things spiral downhill fast and this team looks like it needs significant changes still.

The team obviously needs significant changes still. that's really not the issue with Bonzi. With Bonzi its just a) will he resign? and b) if he resigns what do you do with Kevin and Cisco (there being very few minutes behind Bonzi and Artest, and certainly no starting role).

I want Bonzi back. Think he and Artest could form the slightly scary spiritual core of the new team. But finances and committment to the kids could make the fornt office go in another direction.
 
My thoughts on this issue is that it is all up to the Maloofs. They have proven in the past, if they want something, they'll be willing to pay for it.

I think we are in a good situation because we at least have other options. But if this thing works out like it should, then the Maloofs better re-sign Bonzi Wells.

Time will tell what changes need to be made, and which ones will be made. I'll just trust the Maloofs in the meantime.
 
SacTownKid said:
My thoughts on this issue is that it is all up to the Maloofs. They have proven in the past, if they want something, they'll be willing to pay for it.

I think we are in a good situation because we at least have other options. But if this thing works out like it should, then the Maloofs better re-sign Bonzi Wells.

Time will tell what changes need to be made, and which ones will be made. I'll just trust the Maloofs in the meantime.

I don't think Geoff is that out of the equation yet. And really Bonzi shouldn't be THAT expensive that its a major owner-level thing. Probably get him for about his current price tag. But will he want to come back without testing the market? We really can't afford to have him just walk. And really, sooner or later here, at least one of the Artest/Bonzi/Kevin/Cisco quartet will have to be moved, or will move himself. Both kids have showed promise and will want minutes. Both vets will chew up a lot of minutes, and Artest in full swing will be up somewhere around 40. So what is the read there? As a GM not an owner?
 
If a team is in "win now" mode than it tells me you move the youth if they are not happy. Or don't move the youth, like with the Darko situation in Detroit. Or plan C: find roles for these guys to get on the court.

I liked Cisco playing the point. I don't know how he would fair as a full time backup, but its a way to get him on the court. It looked alright in the last game with Ron sharing the duties too.
 
I say play them any free minutes available in the 1-3 positions. Keep them both, at least another year. Let them bring up the ball as much as possible and save the starters' energy from guys pressuring the ball. Cut back the starters' minutes by a few a game (on average) if possible. I think these guys could be keepers.
 
I agree, Warhawk. I really like the idea of Cisco in the backup point; he seems to have a lot more potential than Hart.

First and foremost, as Brick and others have said, is deciding what to do about Bonzi. We do NOT want him to simply walk, as happened with Cuttino. I honestly hope he'll be re-signed. I think getting him onboard now would at least give us more options later down the road.

I'm not too worried about Cisco at this point, as he is still a rookie.

Bottom line is it's nice to be looking at options again instead of just looking at the past...

GO KINGS!!!
 
VF21 said:
I agree, Warhawk. I really like the idea of Cisco in the backup point; he seems to have a lot more potential than Hart.

First and foremost, as Brick and others have said, is deciding what to do about Bonzi. We do NOT want him to simply walk, as happened with Cuttino. I honestly hope he'll be re-signed. I think getting him onboard now would at least give us more options later down the road.

I'm not too worried about Cisco at this point, as he is still a rookie.

Bottom line is it's nice to be looking at options again instead of just looking at the past...

GO KINGS!!!
I've been screaming at my TV(and Adelman*L*) all damn season for him to use Cisco instead of Hart, at PG. Oh...and we HAVE to resign Bonzi...I think that if he isnt traded by the deadline this month, thats a good sign, obviously.
 
Bricklayer said:
I don't think Geoff is that out of the equation yet. And really Bonzi shouldn't be THAT expensive that its a major owner-level thing. Probably get him for about his current price tag. But will he want to come back without testing the market? We really can't afford to have him just walk. And really, sooner or later here, at least one of the Artest/Bonzi/Kevin/Cisco quartet will have to be moved, or will move himself. Both kids have showed promise and will want minutes. Both vets will chew up a lot of minutes, and Artest in full swing will be up somewhere around 40. So what is the read there? As a GM not an owner?

Wouldn't think someone would offer Bonzi more than the 8 mill he's makin this season...
 
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