I don't think that anybody believed that he wouldn't "make" the team, but there was talk, as recent as a fortnight ago, that he would decline to go in order to rest his foot, regardless of whether he "made" the team or not.
Vote Tyreke Evans for the Skills Challenge!
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vikinginferno
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Oh, yeah, now that I look back, I misread what he wrote.
rhythmless
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In game. In game, Westbrook and Rose get the, "f this, we are not losing this" mindset far more often than Tyreke. It's that extra gear. For Tyreke, it comes and goes. He runs plays sometimes, sometimes he does some wild shots. Still fading away on his jumpshot. These are all mental. Doing it every once in a while makes you a borderline all star. Doing it consistently makes you a a top 10 player.
That's a nice request, but that isn't how the NBA works. You don't sit there and compare players year by year. You compare them NOW. Do you listen to commentators or read articles? How often are players compared today vs year by year? You can go ahead and extrapolate by years for each player. I'm going to watch today's games and call em like I see em. You can make excuses for Tyreke (however valid they may be), but it doesn't stop the analysis from being true.
If all players had your mindset we would never see stars. You think the best go, "well, I'm a year behind, so it's ok that I'm not as good as them yet?" No. Be the best. Period. No matter age, height, no excuses. Jesus Christ people.
Bricklayer
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That's a ridiculous take. Of COURSE you consider years -- everyone does -- in young players. They aren't what they will be yet. When you hit 25 to maybe 33 or so, sure, its just whoever is better. But the difference between a rookie vs. a sophomore vs. a third year player is huge, ESPECIALLY whne you are talking about a 20 yr odl vs. a 21 yr old vs. a 22 yr old. Do you never consider whether somebody is a sophomore, junior or senior in college? It makes a big difference.
Does Tyreke have that motor Who knows. I would agree it comes and goes. Of course the irony is that when its there people start complaining he's selfish so maybe its better he's willing to step back. But in any case he isn't nearly what he'll be yet, clearly was struggling with somethig for the first two months of the seaosn, and has in gernal played swell for the last month.
rhythmless
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Tyreke competes with them right now, and will continue to do so. I am comparing them RIGHT NOW. You can compare them year by year. I won't discount it. By all means, do so. But there is no award for the 20 year old MVP and 21 year old MVP. You aren't getting any awards by year, nor will get championships or wins by year. Once you step out on that court as a pro, you are a pro. You step in against men. Is it fair? You signed the contract. You two make it seem like I don't understand the age difference. I understand it, but again, I'm calling it as I see it right this instnat. Right now. This season. No more, no less. You can engage me in conversations about year by year comparisons, but my post was not about that.
Right now, his mindset wanders. He takes plays off, he takes the lazy way out. Last seconds of the 1st or 2nd quarter, 7 secs left. Tyreke brings hte ball up SLOWLY. You know whats going to happen, so do I. Iso. He milks the clock, everyone stands. 20 foot contested jumper, with that ugly every-shot-is-a-fallaway-for-no-reason shot. Calng. Why not drive in quick, see if you can get a foul, see if you can kick it out for an open 3? He took that last play off. He just wanted to take a shot and see if it would go in. Age? Immaturity? Sure, whatever you guys want to say. Ankle, maybe his girlfriend broke up with him (which kind of sounds like the case, actually). I don't know. I'm just analyzing the result.
Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook have both taken a huge step forward this season, which for both of them is their third year in the NBA. Doesn't it make sense to hold out on declaring that Tyreke Evans isn't in the same league as those guys when he's only halfway through his second season? We haven't seen how Tyreke responds to playoff pressure yet. We've only seen him playing with DeMarcus Cousins for half a season. True he hasn't consistently shown the same superstar "my team is winning this game no matter what" attitude as often as those other two guys, but is it reasonable to expect that right now? He has shown it often enough, I think, that there's a very good chance he will get there. Maybe as soon as next season.
Tetsujin
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Its not like every player develops the same either.
FaStRmAn
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Totally Agree.
And as to this other discussion about Tyreke. He is a sophmore player who has had some bad luck, injured, and just was in a malaise the first part of the season. But, he snapped out of it. The Kings are playing some pretty darn good ball since the Portland game. I gotta believe they are gonna win their share of games. Cisco is the one I worry about. seems like he enjoys wearing an Armani suit too much behind the bench! Even Carrot Top Napier says he is injured a bit too much. I tend to think that he is somewhat brittle. He has been injured at every level. And he just doesn't play hurt. He seems to wait till he is 100% until he can return to the lineup. Last 3 seasons have been marred with injuries to Cisco. He is one of our only outside shooting threats. Therefore all the more reason to trade him.There might be some value there that we can use to get either a small forward who can shoot or a 2 guard who can shoot. Either one helps the team going forward. Besides, Cisco's defense isn't what it used to be.
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JJ22L
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*gasp!*
Dwayne Wade competed and won it twice... (Kobe and Lebron too, but they lost)
kingsboi
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For real?
Yup, look it up: NBA Skills Challenge History
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