Voisin: With search now a wash, hire Brooks

PoundForPound said:
how is PJ better than Scott? Simple, compare San Antonio and Sacramento. Bada-bing.
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The rosters wouldn't have to do anything with that would they? Tim Duncan is good but we have Kenny Thomas. Not much of a difference there is there?
I won't go into the rest of the rosters I think you get my point. Plus I know I have always said the difference between being a good team and a championship team is the asst. coaches. ;) :D
 
you can honestly tell me that if Scott Brooks were coaching this team, we would have a better record than if PJ Carlesimo were at the healm? Please people, this is getting old. Hiring SB just because he's already in the organization makes no sense whatsoever.
 
This has been discussed several times over. What has PJ done, other than get someone to choke him? You think he's the type of coach that'll get Ron to listen to him? Methinks not.

PJ has only proven mediocrity. Brooks has yet to prove anything.
 
I wonder if Brooks' legal troubles are going to keep him at a disadvantage? I don't really want to post about them here, but any who are unaware of the situation can google "scott brooks" + "foster brooks" to catch up.
 
PoundForPound said:
you can honestly tell me that if Scott Brooks were coaching this team, we would have a better record than if PJ Carlesimo were at the healm? Please people, this is getting old. Hiring SB just because he's already in the organization makes no sense whatsoever.
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I'm sure GP would hire him just because he's with the organization. SB is obviously bringing a little something to the table beyond that.

Remember how well PJ handled the last player he coached that was on the "edge"? I am guess with ron ron (if he's still here) it might be a rear naked choke hold instead of the old school two handed regular boring choke hold. :eek:
 
fnordius said:
I wonder if Brooks' legal troubles are going to keep him at a disadvantage? I don't really want to post about them here, but any who are unaware of the situation can google "scott brooks" + "foster brooks" to catch up.
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Look, there's no big secret there, and this board has already had its own thread on the topic:

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18067



Just in that he's gotten this far, I don't think its an issue, even if it is a tad serious. Well, at least you get the feeling its not an issue for Geoff, as I think this may be his candidate he's pushing. Will it keep the Maloofs from signing him? There seem to be so many other reasons they cannot, I think this would only be a decidding issue if they were worried that another new coach was going to land in legal hotwater soon after taking over and further damaging the image.
 
Bricklayer said:
Just in that he's gotten this far, I don't think its an issue, even if it is a tad serious.
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I would say that forgery, money laundering, and tax evasion are a little more that "a tad serious," since some could involve felonies. But I agree, that until or unless charges are brought it's not worth getting all that worked up over it. However, if Brooks was indited after becoming the new coach it would be a huge embarrassment to the Kings organization following Musselman's DUI conviction - perhaps mild by comparison.
 
VF21 said:
If you insist on persisting in this line of "reasoning," you have to remember the Kings WON the two games coached by Scott Brooks.
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and if i recall correctly, those teams we beat weren't even all that good. ;)
 
PoundForPound said:
you can honestly tell me that if Scott Brooks were coaching this team, we would have a better record than if PJ Carlesimo were at the healm? Please people, this is getting old. Hiring SB just because he's already in the organization makes no sense whatsoever.
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I wouldn't presume to say who would have the better record. I don't claim to have a crystal ball, but I don't think its as sure of a thing as you think. Not hiring Brooks just because he's already in the organization makes no sense either.
 
kennadog said:
I wouldn't presume to say who would have the better record. I don't claim to have a crystal ball, but I don't think its as sure of a thing as you think. Not hiring Brooks just because he's already in the organization makes no sense either.
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This coaching situation very much reminds me of a presidential campaign in which the negatives seem to drive the voter's decisions. Of course, it's hard to have any negatives if you are an assistant coach. Nobody really knows a thing about you. So we can impart to the empty vessel all of our wishful thinking about his coaching talent. I know one thing, I'm going to be doing a lot of wishful thinking if we hire Brooks...
 
supamari0 said:
And as I recall, the Kings lost several games to bad teams so beating two of them is more impressive than you realize.
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...which tells us nothing other than the already-established fact that musselman did a terrible job as head coach of the kings. the kings lost to a lot of bad teams this last season under muss, and brooks' two wins as a sub do little but state that, against those two particular bad teams, brooks had a better approach than the mediocre musselman. a scott brooks hire is not a terrible decision, but that decision shouldn't be made because he went two for two as a substitute head coach. hire him because, at this point, it doesn't much matter. few of the remaining head coach prospects in the assistant coach's pool have the obvious potential of becoming more than short term replacements. GP can hire whichever one excites him the most, but they all are on the same level, and luck is all he can bank on in hoping that he won't be firing yet another head coach sometime in the next couple of seasons...
 
Kingster said:
This coaching situation very much reminds me of a presidential campaign in which the negatives seem to drive the voter's decisions. Of course, it's hard to have any negatives if you are an assistant coach. Nobody really knows a thing about you. So we can impart to the empty vessel all of our wishful thinking about his coaching talent. I know one thing, I'm going to be doing a lot of wishful thinking if we hire Brooks...
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As will most Kings fans. I'll be doing a lot of wishful thinking, no matter who we get as coach, tho. Same as every year. ;)
 
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At this point now that SVG is in Orlando. Brooks is no worse than another assistant. Porter may be a good. Carlisimo is a loser as a head coach. Rambis and Shaw seem alright but, none are head and shoulders above the rest so why not Brooks he knows each player now.
 
Entity said:
At this point now that SVG is in Orlando. Brooks is no worse than another assistant. Porter may be a good. Carlisimo is a loser as a head coach. Rambis and Shaw seem alright but, none are head and shoulders above the rest so why not Brooks he knows each player now.
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1) with any luck few of the players he knows will still be aorund next year

2) he knows how to fail with each player, he would be infinitely more appealing if he was folowing up a great coach who had succeeeded wildly. If Brooks was helping last year, it certianly showed up nowhere where you could see it.

3) Brooks should be hired ONLY if its the case that if he had still been an assistant in Denver last year, we still would have called him the best candidate and hired him this year. Otherwise its lazy, its settling, and its certainly doing nothing to indicate we have a plan or a clue as a franchise. Here ya go folks, as our first move of the offseason we present to you, your new coach, the guy we really weren't very excited about, the guy who is no better than a 2nd choice, the guy we could have hired months ago if he was what we really wanted, you new coach: muss's assistant. Yay.
 
I wouldn't get my hopes up. If Petrie says anything, it will undoubtedly be of the totally non-commital variety. News10 said Petrie and Brooks are flying back to Sacramento this evening and that no additional interviews are scheduled at this point. But that means pretty much nothing, since they wouldn't know about interviews unless someone gave them the information.
 
Just curious- Has there been a request made to talk to Porter or does it seem that he is going to choose from the list of those already interviewed at least once?
 
Your guess is as good as any, chelle...

I don't think it's been announced a request has been made, but who knows?
 
Close, Circa.

I propose the following as the official theme for the season:

To dream ... the impossible dream ...
To fight ... the unbeatable foe ...
To bear ... with unbearable sorrow ...
To run ... where the brave dare not go ...
To right ... the unrightable wrong ...
To love ... pure and chaste from afar ...
To try ... when your arms are too weary ...
To reach ... the unreachable star ...

This is my quest, to follow that star ...
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far ...
To fight for the right, without question or pause ...
To be willing to march into Hell, for a Heavenly cause ...

And I know if I'll only be true, to this glorious quest,
That my heart will lie will lie peaceful and calm,
when I'm laid to my rest ...
And the world will be better for this:
That one man, scorned and covered with scars,
Still strove, with his last ounce of courage,
To reach ... the unreachable star ...



http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/bestofbroadway-americanmusical/theimpossibledream.htm
 
VF21 said:
Close, Circa.

I propose the following as the official theme for the season:

To dream ... the impossible dream ...
To fight ... the unbeatable foe ...
To bear ... with unbearable sorrow ...
To run ... where the brave dare not go ...
To right ... the unrightable wrong ...
To love ... pure and chaste from afar ...
To try ... when your arms are too weary ...
To reach ... the unreachable star ...

This is my quest, to follow that star ...
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far ...
To fight for the right, without question or pause ...
To be willing to march into Hell, for a Heavenly cause ...

And I know if I'll only be true, to this glorious quest,
That my heart will lie will lie peaceful and calm,
when I'm laid to my rest ...
And the world will be better for this:
That one man, scorned and covered with scars,
Still strove, with his last ounce of courage,
To reach ... the unreachable star ...



http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/bestofbroadway-americanmusical/theimpossibledream.htm
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eh...that's awfully cheesy...

how about the chorus from tom petty's "even the losers"...

Baby, even the losers get lucky sometimes,
Even the losers keep a little bit of pride,
They get lucky sometimes...

;)
 
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