Voisin: After probe, we all wonder

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Ailene Voisin: After probe, we all wonder
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Columnist
Last Updated 12:20 am PDT Sunday, July 29, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C1


I was in the building five years ago, seated behind the baseline, chronicling every rebound, turnover, field goal, assist, missed free throw, blown whistle.

It was the game everyone remembers -- Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference finals between the Kings and Lakers at Staples Center -- the one that infuriated many and mystified others, the officiating so one-sided that consumer advocate Ralph Nader demanded an investigation.

At the time, I merely considered it a travesty, and the worst-officiated NBA playoff game ever. My column that night was a rip job on the refs -- a first in my 21 years of covering the NBA. I thought Kings coach Rick Adelman was remarkably composed while providing a biting postgame critique. I recorded Lakers coach Phil Jackson's too-coy comments and watched him struggle to keep a straight face. I rolled my eyes at Kobe Bryant and was greeted with knowing laughter.

But what did we really know?

We know the refs stunk.

We know the Kings were the better team, that Vlade Divac, Scot Pollard and Mike Bibby were victimized by a series of phantom fouls, and that the free-throw disparity in the fourth quarter was indefensible. The numbers still don't add up: The Lakers attempted 27 free throws in the deciding period while the Kings, the aggressors throughout the best-of-seven series, were rewarded with an underwhelming nine.

Upon reflection and further review, and two recent evenings spent viewing the game tape, not much has changed.

The refs still stunk.

The Kings were still the better team.

There are still no excuses for not winning the seventh game at Arco Arena, for allowing the horrific officiating by Bob Delaney and Ted Bernhardt (and very few of the mistakes in Game 6 are attributable to crew chief Dick Bavetta, by the way) to mess with their minds. There is no ignoring Adelman's failure to recapture his players' focus, channeling their anger at the Lakers, beginning with the opening tip. There is no forgetting the mental hangover in the locker room before the final game, the whining and what-ifs.

Tim Donaghy, the veteran ref under investigation for allegedly betting on games he officiated, was nowhere near the premises for Games 6 or 7 -- and isn't NBA Commissioner David Stern relieved about that?

Except that now, whenever placing a game tape in the VCR, Donaghy is the ghost in the machine. Every questionable call becomes suspicious. Fan interest could well reach record highs next season for all the wrong (scandalous) reasons. Convincing the public that the competition is legitimate will take years, not months -- and that's assuming Donaghy's actions indeed were those of a rogue ref.

Sacramento fans might prove to be the league's 2007-08 litmus test, in this sense: Since the Donaghy scandal broke, Game 6 has been a featured segment of the national discussion. It won't go away. Maybe, it shouldn't.

"When that stuff started coming out about (Donaghy), the first thing I heard from people down here was: 'Oh, my goodness. I wonder what they're saying today in Sacramento?' " related Los Angeles Times columnist Bill Plaschke. "Everybody knows the Lakers weren't the best team that series. Die-hard Lakers fans won't admit it publicly, but deep down, they know something was very wrong with that game."

Outside the L.A. area, the assessment of the officiating that night is almost universal. As Jack McCallum of Sports Illustrated wrote on June 5, 2002: "League officials do not gather refs in a room and instruct them about which team they want to win. ... The league has more integrity than that. However, Game 6 of the Kings-Lakers series was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen."

During that night's network telecast, announcers Marv Albert, Steve Jones and Bill Walton repeatedly referenced the questionable officiating. Jones noted that the Kings were "going to have to work through tough officiating," and at one point early in the fourth, after Pollard had been called for consecutive fouls -- one for an alleged moving screen, the other for breathing on Shaquille O'Neal as the Lakers center spun into the lane -- an exasperated Walton blurted, "That's not a foul, I'm sorry."

With both Divac and Pollard on the bench with six fouls, the all-too-fitting finale featured a sequence in which Bryant, while trying to free himself for the inbound pass, shoved and elbowed Bibby, knocking him to the ground. Delaney, who was positioned on the baseline in front of the play, called the astonished Bibby for the foul, denying the Kings an opportunity for the tying basket.

So I'll say it again. The refs stunk. The officiating was a travesty. The Kings wuz robbed. Until further notice, that's what I believe.

But this Donaghy character makes you wonder. He makes us all wonder.

About the writer: Reach Ailene Voisin at (916) 321-1208 or avoisin@sacbee.com.
 

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During that night's network telecast, announcers Marv Albert, Steve Jones and Bill Walton repeatedly referenced the questionable officiating. Jones noted that the Kings were "going to have to work through tough officiating," and at one point early in the fourth, after Pollard had been called for consecutive fouls -- one for an alleged moving screen, the other for breathing on Shaquille O'Neal as the Lakers center spun into the lane -- an exasperated Walton blurted, "That's not a foul, I'm sorry."

With both Divac and Pollard on the bench with six fouls, the all-too-fitting finale featured a sequence in which Bryant, while trying to free himself for the inbound pass, shoved and elbowed Bibby, knocking him to the ground. Delaney, who was positioned on the baseline in front of the play, called the astonished Bibby for the foul, denying the Kings an opportunity for the tying basket.
I thought I had put the anger and outrage about that behind me, but reading it tonight brings it all back again...

I will NEVER forget the stunned disbelief I felt when I realized they were calling the foul on Mike's face and not Kobe's elbow...

But I have mixed feelings. I don't know how I'd feel if we eventually found out the game was rigged. Relief at last for finally hearing publicly what so many of us thought privately? Or just frustration and anger at what was stolen from us? Maybe a combination of both.

This just sucks.
 
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I thought I had put the anger and outrage about that behind me, but reading it tonight brings it all back again...

I will NEVER forget the stunned disbelief I felt when I realized they were calling the foul on Mike's face and not Kobe's elbow...

But I have mixed feelings. I don't know how I'd feel if we eventually found out the game was rigged. Relief at last for finally hearing publicly what so many of us thought privately? Or just frustration and anger at what was stolen from us? Maybe a combination of both.

This just sucks.
Yeah I know what you mean. On one hand I'll feel vindicated(I think this is the word I'm looking for) for bashing the refs(Bob Delaney has mob ties BTW) but on the other hand that still doesn't make the championship that should be ours... ours. That was flat out stolen from us and there's no other description for it IMO.
 

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#8
I thought I had put the anger and outrage about that behind me, but reading it tonight brings it all back again...

I will NEVER forget the stunned disbelief I felt when I realized they were calling the foul on Mike's face and not Kobe's elbow...

But I have mixed feelings. I don't know how I'd feel if we eventually found out the game was rigged. Relief at last for finally hearing publicly what so many of us thought privately? Or just frustration and anger at what was stolen from us? Maybe a combination of both.

This just sucks.
It definitely wouldnt be a combination for me, just one feeling and that feeling would be anger. I dont know what i would do but i know i would feel terrible, The NBA better hope and pray that Tim is the only ref involved in this scandal or it wont be pretty.
 

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It definitely wouldnt be a combination for me, just one feeling and that feeling would be anger. I dont know what i would do but i know i would feel terrible, The NBA better hope and pray that Tim is the only ref involved in this scandal or it wont be pretty.
The problem is there's nothing the NBA could do at this point. You can't give us back our 2002 team. And if there were more officials involved we wouldn't be the only team robbed. Look at the Phoenix Suns. Imagine how horrible their fans feel right now. And Donaghy DID officiate in their game 3.
 
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Hmmm, a slight change in perception VF21 ;)

That series was wonderful wasnt it, with so many great moments and so many controversies like that Mike Bibby foul, like the ball that went out of bounds before that which was off Chris webbers knees and it was pretty clear as he was the only one there, the flattened derek fisher on a screen, mike bibbys face or elbow questions on repeated instances.

Game 1 Lakers win

Lakers 16-22 FTS (Shaq 4-6) Kings 16-17

Game 2 Kings win

Lakers 15-25 (Shaq 5 -11 ) Kings 23 - 38

Game 3 Kings win

Lakers 8 - 15 (Shaq 2-6) Kings 21 - 35 (Kobe fouled out )

Game 4 Lakers win

Lakers 18 - 27 Kings 18 - 26

Game 5 kings win

Lakers 17 - 23 Kings 22- 33

**** Shaq Fouled out
**** Shaq 18 field goal attempts, 14 made
**** Shaq 1 FT attempt all game

Game 6 Lakers win

Lakers 34 - 40 kings 18-25

*** Vlade Divac and Scott Polard fouled out

Game 7 Lakers win

Lakers 27 - 33 Kings 16 - 30

I dont understand how only one game can be interpretted to be an abnormal instance, there were ups and downs both ways just like the game was supposed to be, there were aggressors on both sides sometimes the kings shooting 38 FTs or the lakers shooting 40. There were instances where the MDE was fouled out with only one FT attempt for the whole game and there were some where he attempted 17.

Seems pretty normal, obviously when the team that we support loses we feel bad but objectively the refs had nothing to do with this and I am sure they did not control the outcome of the games from games 1 - 7
 
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unless we're ready to go back and scrutinize every call in the series, game 6 is the defining aberration, because of the elbow on bibby. that call was just blatantly wrong. there were ups and downs that can be attributed to human error, sure, but that elbow? one fan even held up the sign:

"how can a chin foul an elbow???"
 
#12
I really hate this whole thread. What I thought had been at last buried to the deepest depths of my soul, never to be thought of again, have all come back to haunt me. After finally removing that splinter from my brain known as game 6, I am beginning to digest and relive it all over and over again due to Donaghy. I am convinced that he is not alone in this scandal and it is going to get alot uglier.

It's such a sickening thought that I may just forego the NBA for a while. I did it after the baseball strike when the world series was cancelled....and NEVER went back. Hell, the way this team looks, I wouldn't be missing much anyway. Perhaps I'll fill my empty viewing time watching WWE/WWF wrestling matches. There may not be much difference in the officiating but at least they admit that much of it is rigged.
 
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The problem is there's nothing the NBA could do at this point. You can't give us back our 2002 team. And if there were more officials involved we wouldn't be the only team robbed. Look at the Phoenix Suns. Imagine how horrible their fans feel right now. And Donaghy DID officiate in their game 3.
Oh i know theres nothing they can do but it is either going to hurt or help the league at this point, i have sickening feeling that it might help the league simply because people in this country love controversy.
 
#16
Yeah i saw that angle not too long ago, love that shot and will never forget it but that shot hurts just as much as the horry shot for me because after game 5 i thought for sure we had the game all locked up. The rise guys had a laker funeral and everything. :(

Edit:OMG i just noticed how horrible the free throw shooting was in That series, everyone talks about game 7 but it was bed in every game other than game 5.
 
#17
I don't care what anyone says...
There is no doubt in my mind someone pulled strings for that game. Makes me f*cking sick to my stumach just thinking about it. I lost my voice for a week after watching that BS!
 
#18
I don't care what anyone says...
There is no doubt in my mind someone pulled strings for that game. Makes me f*cking sick to my stumach just thinking about it. I lost my voice for a week after watching that BS!
Samaki Walker's half court shot DURING halftime gave the Lakers 3 more points in a 1 point game, in game 4. Which would've NEGATED Robbery Horrible's shot.
 

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I thought I had put the anger and outrage about that behind me, but reading it tonight brings it all back again...

I will NEVER forget the stunned disbelief I felt when I realized they were calling the foul on Mike's face and not Kobe's elbow...

But I have mixed feelings. I don't know how I'd feel if we eventually found out the game was rigged. Relief at last for finally hearing publicly what so many of us thought privately? Or just frustration and anger at what was stolen from us? Maybe a combination of both.

This just sucks.

I for one - never accepted it and I always knew that refs took it away from us. All this crap about us choking it in game 7 - nonsense.

There should have never been game 7 in the first place. It should have been over in 5 because that is how much better we were even without Pedja
 

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Hmmm, a slight change in perception VF21 ;)

That series was wonderful wasnt it, with so many great moments and so many controversies like that Mike Bibby foul, like the ball that went out of bounds before that which was off Chris webbers knees and it was pretty clear as he was the only one there, the flattened derek fisher on a screen, mike bibbys face or elbow questions on repeated instances.

Game 1 Lakers win

Lakers 16-22 FTS (Shaq 4-6) Kings 16-17

Game 2 Kings win

Lakers 15-25 (Shaq 5 -11 ) Kings 23 - 38

Game 3 Kings win

Lakers 8 - 15 (Shaq 2-6) Kings 21 - 35 (Kobe fouled out )

Game 4 Lakers win

Lakers 18 - 27 Kings 18 - 26

Game 5 kings win

Lakers 17 - 23 Kings 22- 33

**** Shaq Fouled out
**** Shaq 18 field goal attempts, 14 made
**** Shaq 1 FT attempt all game

Game 6 Lakers win

Lakers 34 - 40 kings 18-25

*** Vlade Divac and Scott Polard fouled out

Game 7 Lakers win

Lakers 27 - 33 Kings 16 - 30

I dont understand how only one game can be interpretted to be an abnormal instance, there were ups and downs both ways just like the game was supposed to be, there were aggressors on both sides sometimes the kings shooting 38 FTs or the lakers shooting 40. There were instances where the MDE was fouled out with only one FT attempt for the whole game and there were some where he attempted 17.

Seems pretty normal, obviously when the team that we support loses we feel bad but objectively the refs had nothing to do with this and I am sure they did not control the outcome of the games from games 1 - 7

Did You watch game 6 ???

All those numbers and stats mean nothing. They can't explain what I have seen.

And after game 5 P.J. said somwhere - "we will be back (@ARCO) for game 7"

I always wondered how he new
 
#23
I seem to be the only one who remembers the elbow(s) differently. Does anybody remember it like I do?

I remember when Christie had his face up in Bryant's face, and Bryant swung his arm around catching Christie's chin with his elbow (hence the "how can a chin foul an elbow?" sign). This might have been in the fourth quarter, but it wasn't at the end of the game. They called the foul on Christie. He "reached in" with his face or something.

Later, with the Kings down by two points I think at the end of the game, Bibby defended Bryant on the inbounds play. Bryant's elbow hit Bibby in the nose and no foul was called either way. At that point somebody fouled Bryant, it might have been Bibby, but this was after Bryant received the inbounds pass and was separate from the elbow to the nose.

Am I losing it or does somebody else remember it this way? I wish the play(s) were on youtube or the game was replayed somewhere so I could see them again.

Not that it makes any of us Kings fans feel better, I just don't like remembering it wrong.
 

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Im sory folks but I have drawn the conclusion that my future as a Kings fan if not an NBA fan depends on never revisiting game 6 again... pointless, painfull and poisionous.
 

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Im sory folks but I have drawn the conclusion that my future as a Kings fan if not an NBA fan depends on never revisiting game 6 again... pointless, painfull and poisionous.
and how do You just block it out ?

Every time I watch a BB game of any kind - it crosses my mind and I do get angry. If there is ever a law suit for mental and emotional damage over this - I want to be a part of it
 
#26
Sometimes i wish it was possible to see what this forum was like when we were kicking butt in 01-02 or 02-03, Probably boring talk since it was nothing but wins for the most part. Im sure there wasnt comments like "i bet the maloofs made this move and not petrie" lol.
 
#27
This chump referee that got caught may be a pawn. This is an investigation of organized crime, and not just NBA referees! This deal involves a major, high-dollar, professional sports league. David Stern is viewed by a few fans, coaches, and players as an arrogant SOB.

There are a host of very good reasons why a legal team consisting of relatively young lawyers working for the Justice Department would want to pursue this indictment to the absolute fullest measure possible. Law careers area made on this sort of high-profile BS. I see unbridled motivation to hammer everyone in sight.

Look for this now infamous referee (sic, schmuck) to sing like a bird when the feds lean on him. They won't need jack bauer for this cupcake. He will be looking for a plea-bargain, and a new zipcode, within minutes. He may implicate other NBA schmucks. I don't think Dick Bavetta and the boys are out of the woods just yet. I suspect that David is sweating garlic-soaked dum-dums at this point. At the same time, scores of anonymous employees at the Justice Department are probably dancing around the water coolers.

Da Kings was robbed, and yous bums knows it.


Finally, the season just got interesting.
 
#29
I seem to be the only one who remembers the elbow(s) differently. Does anybody remember it like I do?

I remember when Christie had his face up in Bryant's face, and Bryant swung his arm around catching Christie's chin with his elbow (hence the "how can a chin foul an elbow?" sign). This might have been in the fourth quarter, but it wasn't at the end of the game. They called the foul on Christie. He "reached in" with his face or something.

Later, with the Kings down by two points I think at the end of the game, Bibby defended Bryant on the inbounds play. Bryant's elbow hit Bibby in the nose and no foul was called either way. At that point somebody fouled Bryant, it might have been Bibby, but this was after Bryant received the inbounds pass and was separate from the elbow to the nose.

Am I losing it or does somebody else remember it this way? I wish the play(s) were on youtube or the game was replayed somewhere so I could see them again.

Not that it makes any of us Kings fans feel better, I just don't like remembering it wrong.
I remember itthe same way. The Christie face foul was in the second quarter of game 1. I was there. So you are not losing it. And there was no foul call on Bibby's face. You are right.
 

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Sometimes i wish it was possible to see what this forum was like when we were kicking butt in 01-02 or 02-03, Probably boring talk since it was nothing but wins for the most part. Im sure there wasnt comments like "i bet the maloofs made this move and not petrie" lol.
This place was unbelievable in 2002-2003. The night I'll never forget, however, was May 8, 2003. The playoffs were going our way, everyone was clicking and then ... Webber collapsed and didn't get back up.

I think that one night may be the one long-time Kings fans will never be able to recover from. It broke our hearts, even more than the WCF the year before.