josh smith has basically the same contract as Larry Sanders. I think we could get off cheaper to fill that role than Josh Smith being forced into a role where he isn't putting up 16 attempts per game
Oh lord.
One source insists nothing imminent, but I'm told Pistons and Kings have discussed a trade that would send Josh Smith to Sacramento
As long as it does not involve #8, i am fine with that.
I don't get the Josh Smith talk we need size and as of yesterday that seemed to be the goal after locking up Gay for the year. As for the #8 pick I would can envision a few deals in place based on who is left, more about trading a particular draftee for a particular vet,than trading the pick outright for a vet. This could leverage a little better deal for the Kings than the out right trade would.
Also I am glad to see Terry's name popping up that is one sketchy asset Ithought we might just be eating.
Can't stand Smith. He's an incorrigble knuckle-head 4 who sees himself as a 3 and will take 3 pointers without conscience even though he can't shoot there worth a darn, and who by floating on the outside negates his value as an inside presence. It's pretty obvious that no coach has ever been able to cure himself of his delusions of 3-dom. He'll go through short lapses of being a 4, only to recoil to his self-identity as a 3. His reputation has been about his potential for his entire career. "If only" should be on his NBA epitaph. He's got to be the greatest under-achiever in the NBA today.
you appear to have changed your mind on this within a 30 min periodFinances actually work, was surprised:
2014
Thompson $6,037,500
Williams $6,679,866
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$12,717,366
Josh Smith $14,000,000
also, JT not happy camper and coming off his least productive year of this career. DWill very overpaid for expected role.
And turns:
2 2nd rnd picks --> Mbah a Moute --> Derrick Williams --> Josh Smith (while wiping out one of the last Petrie contracts)
Admittedly I don't watch many east coast games, (probably saw Detroit 6 times last year) and I am aware that Josh brings elite shot blocking, I don't see the defense when 6'9" Josh starts to D up on west coast PF's like Duncan, Griffin, Aldridge, Davis, Randolph or Love. I just think our fast track to improving the front line is to bring in a shot blocking center and move DMC to the 4. But the experimnet might be worth the risk if the parts out are Thompson, D Will and Terry.Well Smith is one of a very short list of guys who can legitimately add shotblocking while retaining the mobility to guard PFs, and let Boogie and his near league leading defensive rebounding stay near the hoop. And while we only have a short resume, as an undervalued on the outs low hanging fruit sort of player, he looks just like the other guys Gerbil has pursued. Give us your tired, your poor, your analytics hated weak....funny for all the talk of Gerbiul being basically a basement dwelling stat geek in Denver. Have seen almost no concern for analytic type stuff at all in pursuit of Mbah a Moute, DWill, Gay, Evans, possibly now Smith. Keep Evans on as the rebounding muscle to Smith's flashy athletic jumpshooting and its a solid rotation.
Advanced stats are NOT going to love us though.
they can happen right now.So when can trades actually happen?
Hell yes to this deal. Last year was a mess for him and Detroit. Before that with ATL.....
Doesn't shoot below 45% in any season as a 4... He's kind of a stretch 4, can hit the 3 but is inefficient with it, but to look at what he CAN do is he gets to the line (needs to get % up though), rebounds enough as long as Cuz is boarding, gets lots of steals and blocks and racks up assists from the 4 spot. Plays very good defense. Takes some ill advised shots but everyone was saying the same thing about Rudy before he came over. I think with Cuz on the team, there is no mistaking who the big dog is and it probably reels him in a bit. All I know is he can fill up the stat sheet in a lot of areas...more than JT and DWill ....
This would be a great deal for Sac.
. But the experimnet might be worth the risk if the parts out are Thompson, D Will and Terry.
you appear to have changed your mind on this within a 30 min period
Admittedly I don't watch many east coast games, (probably saw Detroit 6 times last year) and I am aware that Josh brings elite shot blocking, I don't see the defense when 6'9" Josh starts to D up on west coast PF's like Duncan, Griffin, Aldridge, Davis, Randolph or Love. I just think our fast track to improving the front line is to bring in a shot blocking center and move DMC to the 4. But the experimnet might be worth the risk if the parts out are Thompson, D Will and Terry.
Let's say this trade does go through with the rumored parts of Thompson and Williams heading to Detroit... Our best bench players would be McCallum (if Rondo comes, but that's nowhere near certain) and Reggie Evans. Obviously, we'd need to improve that. So what kind of FAs would you guys target (and for reasonable price)?
I can get on board with that easyIf Detroit is desperate to dump Josh Smith (and it seems they are) and the Kings want to take that risk I'd substitute Landry for Thompson.
At least then we're keeping a third big that can swing between PF and C.
Even then I can't say I'm enthusiastic about the idea.
He's not a post player so the % is ok for me....most of his good years its ranging between 45-50..not so much from the 3, that has to get reeled in, and the FT% needs to be better. The other numbers are very solid.....way more than what we can get from JT and DWill....he was on a lot of good teams there in the ATL with Horford and Joe Johnson. I think he's a piece that can help get us closer to the playoffs.Couple points:
1. Not sure 45% is really a high bar for your PF
2. The last couple seasons, he takes over 3 3's a game and shoots in the high 20%
3. He gets to the line about 4 times a game and shoots around 50%
Not saying its a horrible deal but these are big problems when you are paying someone over $13M/year for the next 3 seasons
This is definitely a group of volatile personalities, outside of Rudy Gay all of these guys have had run-ins with their teammates, bad things could happen. However, there is more to it than that, there are connections here. Even though individually there might be issues, reports indicate that all of these guys like each other, are friends to certain extents. Perhaps these relationships could keep each doing what they should be doing.
So you want dmc guarding those 4's??? Demarcus is fine right where he is imo.Admittedly I don't watch many east coast games, (probably saw Detroit 6 times last year) and I am aware that Josh brings elite shot blocking, I don't see the defense when 6'9" Josh starts to D up on west coast PF's like Duncan, Griffin, Aldridge, Davis, Randolph or Love. I just think our fast track to improving the front line is to bring in a shot blocking center and move DMC to the 4. But the experimnet might be worth the risk if the parts out are Thompson, D Will and Terry.