Update on Arena Plans by FOX 40

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FOX 40 reported the following during their sports segment tonight:

A "timeline" (not a deadline) to have a plan in place to build a new arena has been set.

It will start at the beginning of the next season (about six months away). Then Stern could say to the Maloofs that he has done all he can and the Maloofs can do what they wish meaning talks of moving to another city can begin.
 
#2
FOX 40 reported the following during their sports segment tonight:

A "timeline" (not a deadline) to have a plan in place to build a new arena has been set.

It will start at the beginning of the next season (about six months away). Then Stern could say to the Maloofs that he has done all he can and the Maloofs can do what they wish meaning talks of moving to another city can begin.

Did Fox 40 add that last part that Stern will say that he's done all he can? Or did you add it?
 
#7
at this point, I'm not listening to ANYTHING having to do with a new arena, frankly its depressing. been there, done that a few times before...hey, if they're going to get it done, they'll get it done, and if they dont, they dont. all it does is make me more pissed at all parties involved, and its not like I can really do anything about it, other than vote on whatever it is when it happens, everything else is just water under the bridge.
 
#8
What I heard the other day (KHTK?) was that the Stern's intent is to have a plan to present by the beginning of next season. Period.

Anything added to that, is speculation. Obviously, tho, if this is Stern's attempt at a deal and it really doesn't fly, then what else can the Maloofs do, but leave? And at that point, I don't think Stern would stand in their way.

Stern doesn't want the Kings to leave Sac and I don't think the Maloofs want to leave. But if a new arena is impossible here, that will spell the end of the Sacramento Kings era. It doesn't take a psychic to read the tea leaves in this situation.

All I can hope now, is that Stern actually can come up with a doable deal. I'm almost certain that before next season's out, we'll know if its the last season here.
 

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#9
A lot of Crandell's stuff is more in the op-ed vein than actual news. I personally think it should be so indicated but it seems more and more that the news readers and talking heads are allowed to make whatever comments pop into their heads after reading a story... and not differentiating between fact and opinion.
 
#10
If the Maloofs want to gain favor and interest in a new arena with taxpayer dollars, then they better pony up and make some splashes in off-season...

Here's my conspiracy theory: Stern is a business man and he sees what a great market Sacramento is for the NBA. With the "bad fortune" we've had this season, can anyone else see the Kings "being the luck lotto winner" whether it's 1-2-3???

Get a top notch pick, gain interest, make a couple trades/FA signings and whalah a new product and a new gained interest in the team. Had we won the title in 2002, I think we'd already have a new Arena in Sacramento as the Maloofs would have pushed it a lot harder and had a lot more support at that time.
 
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Here's my conspiracy theory: Stern is a business man and he sees what a great market Sacramento is for the NBA. With the "bad fortune" we've had this season, can anyone else see the Kings "being the luck lotto winner" whether it's 1-2-3???
I actually had mulled that idea a few times, myself. Good chance, I'd say.
 
#12
A conspiracy theory in our favor! Sweet, sign me up.

Does that mean I can expect to see Oden, Garnett and Billups in Kings uniforms next year? :)
 
#13
A conspiracy theory in our favor! Sweet, sign me up.

Does that mean I can expect to see Oden, Garnett and Billups in Kings uniforms next year? :)
I'd settle for just Durant, actually...you put him on our team now and that would be an All-World upgrade from Kenny Thomas...oh, wait...EVERYTHING would be an upgrade from Kenny.
 
#14
Last night at the Dallas-Oakland game on ESPN, Jim Gray interviewed David Stern in the stands. He asked some very pointed questions, some of which Stern was clearly uncomfortable. IMO, the "big zinger" was related to a news quote by the GM (?) of the Seattle Seahawks. The GM or owner apparently told the media that the Seahawks would likely move to Las Vegas next year. Stern demanded that this remark was not correct, and in fact, was not even made. (strong body-language) Gray than advised that ESPN staff had verfied the comment with the front office of the Seattle Seahawks. Stern then stated strongly that the Seahawk executive's statement would be withdrawn today! Stern became quite agitated by the allegation that the Seahawks were making such remarks to the media.

Why, I ask?

Is Stern trying to keep the Seahawks in Seattle? I believe so. That would be consistent with his long-standing NBA management philosophy.

Is Stern involved in a defacto "pissing contest" with the mayor of Las Vegas?

Have the Maloofs been trying to move the Kings to Las Vegas for years, and has David Stern made statements and taken administrative steps to preclude that from happening? I think so.

Is Stern angry about continued attempts by various team owners to abandon loyal fans in established NBA markets, communities that will not spring for new arenas?

Sacramento, Seattle, and other North American cities, have tens of thousands of loyal fans, as well as hundreds of thousands of taxpayers who don't care about NBA basketball. The non-fans don't want to pay for new NBA arenas. Is Stern trying to maintain a successful and expanding sports association in the face of some owners who want, or perhaps need, more income and profit?

Is Stern afraid of another Oakland Raiders or Los Angeles Rams type of public relations debaucle? Greedy team owners have clearly damaged NFL fan participation and loyalty in California and elsewhere. Los Angeles has no NFL team. This is preposterous.

because of their business history and political connections, do the Maloofs have a lock on the prospective Las Vegas option? Is Stern caught in the middle?

I think the Jim Gray interview may have been very informative. Unfortunately, I just don't know how to interpret this rare glimpse into David Stern's mind and inner-workings of the NBA.
 
#15
Crandell may be the best "news" sports guy in town. He's experienced, knows the market and has lots of sources. He also has a way of getting under the skin of pro sports folks because he asks good questions - the ones they don't like to answer. I remember when he really pissed off Bill Walsh, then head coach of the Niners, at camp in Rocklin by asking the questions Walsh was trying to dodge.
At a press conference, Crandell is the guy who asks the questions all the other TV, radio and print guys want to ask but don't have the balls.
 
#16
You mean the Sonics not Seahawks lol. I saw that interview and Jim Gray is just stupid he was asking Stern questions he obviously can't answer at this point and won't answer. It was a pretty pointless interview IMO.
 

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Last night at the Dallas-Oakland game on ESPN, Jim Gray interviewed David Stern in the stands. He asked some very pointed questions, some of which Stern was clearly uncomfortable. IMO, the "big zinger" was related to a news quote by the GM (?) of the Seattle Seahawks. The GM or owner apparently told the media that the Seahawks would likely move to Las Vegas next year. Stern demanded that this remark was not correct, and in fact, was not even made. (strong body-language) Gray than advised that ESPN staff had verfied the comment with the front office of the Seattle Seahawks. Stern then stated strongly that the Seahawk executive's statement would be withdrawn today! Stern became quite agitated by the allegation that the Seahawks were making such remarks to the media.

Why, I ask?

Is Stern trying to keep the Seahawks in Seattle? I believe so. That would be consistent with his long-standing NBA management philosophy.

Is Stern involved in a defacto "pissing contest" with the mayor of Las Vegas?

Have the Maloofs been trying to move the Kings to Las Vegas for years, and has David Stern made statements and taken administrative steps to preclude that from happening? I think so.

Is Stern angry about continued attempts by various team owners to abandon loyal fans in established NBA markets, communities that will not spring for new arenas?

Sacramento, Seattle, and other North American cities, have tens of thousands of loyal fans, as well as hundreds of thousands of taxpayers who don't care about NBA basketball. The non-fans don't want to pay for new NBA arenas. Is Stern trying to maintain a successful and expanding sports association in the face of some owners who want, or perhaps need, more income and profit?

Is Stern afraid of another Oakland Raiders or Los Angeles Rams type of public relations debaucle? Greedy team owners have clearly damaged NFL fan participation and loyalty in California and elsewhere. Los Angeles has no NFL team. This is preposterous.

because of their business history and political connections, do the Maloofs have a lock on the prospective Las Vegas option? Is Stern caught in the middle?

I think the Jim Gray interview may have been very informative. Unfortunately, I just don't know how to interpret this rare glimpse into David Stern's mind and inner-workings of the NBA.
Jim Gray is not an investigate reporter. He just thinks he is... The continuing lunacy about Las Vegas needs to be put aside for now. We have a city in Oklahoma with fans who would clearly support an NBA team. It's much more likely the Sonics would move there, especially since their ownership is vested in Oklahoma City.

As far as the statement from the Seattle front office goes, Gray was apparently working off something Stern did not believe to have happened (meaning the statement about moving the Sonics to Vegas), Stern was perfectly correct in his responses... And Gray's comment that the ESPN staff had confirmed the statement doesn't necessarily mean much, since ESPN has made mistakes before.

This wouldn't be the first time Jim Gray has refused to let the facts - or lack of them - get in the way of what he thought to be a "hard hitting" interview that was, in actuality, just more Gray lunacy than anything more concrete.

As for the idea of the Maloofs trying to move the Kings to Vegas for quite some time, that's just not borne out by any kind of facts or logic, for that matter.
 
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Actually I remember reading the comments the Sonics made about OKC.
There have been several articles about the Sonics possibly moving to Oklahoma City. I still can't find anything that says anyone in the Sonics organization said they were going to move to Las Vegas.

Jim Gray just isn't credible.
 
#20
There have been several articles about the Sonics possibly moving to Oklahoma City. I still can't find anything that says anyone in the Sonics organization said they were going to move to Las Vegas.

Jim Gray just isn't credible.
Here it is:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2850918

I agree with you though, JG is not credible.

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Sonics owner Bennett tells officials he's eyeing Vegas
ESPN.com news services

Seattle SuperSonics and Seattle Storm owner Clay Bennett has told Seattle business and civic leaders that Las Vegas, not his home town of Oklahoma City, could be a destination for the team, The Seattle Times reported.

Bennett's comments were made at a Wednesday board meeting of Seattle's Convention and Visitors Bureau and comfirmed by a Sonics spokesman.

Team spokesman Jim Kneeland said while no firm plans are in place, the team is "looking really hard right now" at Las Vegas, the Times reported. That follows the Washington state legislature's rejection of public funding for a proposed $500 million arena in suburban Renton to replace KeyArena.

"He [Bennett] said, 'I'd still like to get a deal done here, but we're at a point where we have to start looking at other options,'" Kneeland said. The Sonics and Storm have a lease at KeyArena through 2010, but Bennett has said he may try to negotiate a way out of that deal after next season rather than play out the string.

The proposal could raise eyebrows across the NBA for two key reasons:

• It has been presumed since Bennett purchased the teams a year ago that he would move them to his native Oklahoma if he could not get a deal done in Seattle. Oklahoma City hosted the New Orleans Hornets for two NBA seasons in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, and the city's support for the team impressed league observers.

• Commissioner David Stern has long insisted that the NBA will not allow a franchise relocation or expansion to Las Vegas until the city's casinos ban betting on NBA games. The city's latest proposal to the NBA did not meet that demand, though Stern has announced he'll appoint an ownership committee to study the issue.

Bennett has repeatedly said he'd rather keep the teams in the Seattle area, since it's a larger and more affluent market than Oklahoma City.

But if market size and money are factors, then Las Vegas naturally becomes a desirable alternative, officials who attended the meeting said of Bennett's thinking.

"What I heard him say was that if he ended up having to move the team, Vegas would likely be a more attractive market than Oklahoma City," Steve Leahy, chief executive of the Greater Seattle Chamber of Commerce, told the Times.

Seattle City Councilwoman Jan Drago told the newspaper "It was about money -- they can't make a return on their investment in Oklahoma ... he really expected to end up in Vegas."

Washington Gov. Christine Gregoire has said she will not call the state Legislature into special session on an arena financing plan, and state House Speaker Frank Chopp, D-Seattle, is resolutely opposed to taxpayer funding for an arena.

"They already have a place to play. It's nice. There are no potholes in the court there. Every player has health care. They all had the opportunity to go to college. Let's get real here," Chopp told the Seattle Times editorial board. "If they want to [build a new arena], we're not stopping them. They can pay for it themselves."

Meanwhile, Lenny Wilkens said Thursday he has been promoted from vice chairman to team president and is no longer a candidate to replace Rick Sund as general manager or Bob Hill as coach. On Tuesday, Hill was fired and Sund was removed from his post. Sund will remain with the team as a consultant during the final year of his contract.
 
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Thanks for the article, kupman...

I think Bennett is going to regret making those comments, although it sounds a little like he was trying to put fear into the heart of his audience.