TREY BACK
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captain bill
All-Star
Yay
Trey was one of our best players during the playoffs. He seems to genuinely love it here. His comment about Fox’s birthday really makes you think about how much these guys value one another off the court.
Alright, let’s run it back. I think we’ve got a special group of high character players
Alright, let’s run it back. I think we’ve got a special group of high character players
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Well, he better be the backup C if not, overpay unless that's a TO in the 2nd year.
ockingsfan
Starter
That's a nice contract for Trey. I suspect he will be playing more back up Center this coming year, now that we should have Sasha coming too
reptilexcq2
Bench
Hey, I heard Clippers is looking to trade Zubac, can the Kings use the cap to absorb his contract? It's only about $10mil....we could give them 1st rounder. Kings need a big man that can rebound and block shots....he's perfect for backup C.
I can't imagine he'd be very happy going from starting in LA to a bench role here.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
No way. If you sign Trey to come back and Sasha comes over and doesn't suck, the only way Trey even gets minutes is at that spot. It's like the same thing every year, the Kings seem to build a little too much off of depth. Paying Lyles, Metu, and TD on 1 year deals at a low amount is fine, but once you start upping the numbers and years on your end of rotation guys, they need to be at the end of the rotation. Barnes, Murray, Sasha, Lyles and Domas leaves a little bit of squeaking room for a SF to play some defense. There's almost not a single reason to overpay on a C now. Maybe a 1 year contract and that's it.
This is pretty decent value for the Kings. That contract comes in at 6% of the salary cap. Since in free agency you should expect to pay about 3% of the salary cap for 1 WS, that would suggest that if Trey comes in at ~2 WS per season, he meets value. The last two seasons Trey has averaged 3.1 WS per season, so we can hope to get value out of that deal.
I know we're not in the Barnes thread, but the same logic applies to HB. His contract is right around 12.25% of the salary cap, so you're hoping for about 4 WS, and over the past four seasons with the Kings Barnes has averaged about 5.4 WS. Both guys look like good value.
(And yes, WS aren't everything, but they're at least something you can put an all-around value to and maybe it approximates real all-around value.)
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
But his cap hold crushes the difference at this point anyway pretty much doesn't it? Maybe there's a way to time all the moves out but this is looking like a run it back right now. Wish that was a TO in the 2nd year if this goes south position wise.
Section 101
All-Star
Yes they can wait to sign after other moves.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I don't think so, he has to have a cap hold still and that right now would put the Kings at a MLE under anyway, with Duarte it's basically half that. Yeah, have to see the timing here.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
It's totally dependent on role. If he's the backup C full time it's a good deal. If Sasha doesn't come, there's less risk, but if Sasha comes and performs it might get dicey at that F spot. Unless Brown is done searching for 3 and D guys in games which would help as well.
Light it up
G-League
Idk about 8 mil per for Lyles. How many other teams were offering him that?? I doubt there were any. Feels like we outbid ourselves.
Section 101
All-Star
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Yes, but this doesn't allow them to first release his cap hold does it? Regardless if Lyles is signed last or not, the Kings still have him on the books until they release his cap hold. He's on there for around 3.5 million I think.
Impossible, I heard Klutch is falling apart and about to be bought out by some other agent.
lol
Glad we finished this bit of business up.
lol
Glad we finished this bit of business up.
Chupacabra
Starter
Run it back! That was the FO's priority anyway. Most importantly, I agree.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
There's was Shams smoke so it sounded like there was a Beal deal on the table. Once that went away Monte pivoted.
