Trade talks involving Casspi?

[ArcoKings]

You should read some of the awful posts on the kings facebook page. I've read numerous posts of people saying dealing Casspi would be OK, and we should keep Landry of all our trade chips. Reading posts like that makes me appreciate all of you so much more!

I agree with you Sarunas 100%. There's more knowledge about the team here and the folks here are true fans. Go Kings!

 

[rainmaker]

I see no point in trading Omri and think the kings would regret it down the road.

If we did trade him, it would need to be for a player who is equal or greater in talent/production to what Omri would be in his prime. Determining what level Omri will reach is speculation right now, but I think he will be an impact starting sf in a few years, maybe a #6-10 on a top 10 sf list when he's in his prime. Point being, Omri has shown flashes of the type of player he can one day be, and when you commit to a rebuild, you commit to the patience it take to develop very young players, no matter how painful it may be.

The other option is to trade him for an impact pg, but until I hear a solid rumor which would clearly help the team, I'm not considering it. Landry however, is playing better as of late, which will increase his value, and given he's expiring and would think it's better than 50/50 he's moved by the deadline. Houston is interested, and if they would part with Brooks and we don't have to give up anything else valuable, I might do it. As much as I prefer Lowry, and am not high on Brooks, it would be a tryout for the rest of teh year, and if it doesn't work, he comes off the books, just like Landry would have.

I'm not too optomistic about a brooks/tyreke pairing, but I might try it.

 

[Spike]

Something we need to think about is the role that a "roleplayer" plays on the team. We can't have superstars at every position - we need glue guys, hustle guys, and effort guys.

On the wing and in the post, I think we have potential stars (too early to tell for sure, but it looks that way) in Evans and Cousins. Thompson seems to be producing solidly, although not spectacularly, and Omri fits the glue/hustle/effort mold. He's like a younger Cisco with a higher ceiling (on several levels.)

What is Omri's ceiling? I'm not sure. I think he's ultimately a smart 15-18 ppg scorer, with splashes of big game thrown in every once in a while, and about 5 rebs a game. I think that's a pretty good fit for this team, considering you can hope to get around 45 ppg from Evans/Cousins in the future. They will be the volume scorers on this team. Unless we're looking for a defensive stopper at this position, you're not going to get much better production.
Of course, minutes will ultimately dictate what we see from Omri, and as we know, minutes are too sporadic to develop consistency/chemistry.

 

[The Basketball Kings]

What is Omri's ceiling? I'm not sure. I think he's ultimately a smart 15-18 ppg scorer, with splashes of big game thrown in every once in a while, and about 5 rebs a game.

Omri's ceiling is somewhere near Tony Kukoc or Hedo with a bit more tenacity in going to the rim and better defense.

 

[ESP47]

That article says his pre draft reputation was that he was a non shooter. If Casspi was known as a non shooter, then what was he actually known for? Because 90% of the time he's on the court, that's about the only thing I see him do that he's good at.

We need to move Landry. He's not coming back and we don't necessarily want him back. At least get something in return.

 

[Boogie-havoc]

That article says his pre draft reputation was that he was a non shooter. If Casspi was known as a non shooter, then what was he actually known for? Because 90% of the time he's on the court, that's about the only thing I see him do that he's good at.

Toughness, Hustle, energy, never say die attitude, off the ball movemant, slashing, size, running the floor, and being a pro and playing in one of the top teams in Europe since he's 17.

What really is intresting is if with his amazing work ethic he made a weakness of his to such a strength - how much more can he improove in his game? thats a very positive note that indicates his game WILL improove - even what we think right now is a weakness of his, due to his hard work.

 

[SCKingsfan]

That article says his pre draft reputation was that he was a non shooter. If Casspi was known as a non shooter, then what was he actually known for? Because 90% of the time he's on the court, that's about the only thing I see him do that he's good at.

Casspi moves very well without the ball and gets out on the break - things he really doesn't get rewarded for on this team. and obviously the altleticism, scrapiness, length, intensity. I also think he sees the floor well, although his passing decisions don't always bear that out.

 

[bajaden]

If you look at the numbers your really not going to be able to get a better quality offensively than Omri. Defensively you may get an upgrade, but then your sacrificing youth. The only SF I can see filling these requirements is Prince.

Plus a vet who is not controlling the ball really does no good. The area the Kings need a vet is at PG. Someone who knows when to run and when to slow things down to run the fubar offense.

Prince, by the way is an unrestricted freeagent at the end of the year. So all we have to do is just wait till seasons end if we want him. I realize that you were just using him as an example though..

 

[bajaden]

Absolutely. The bagels here in Denver suck. The bagels in California were mediocre, until I moved east, when I came to realize that the California bagels did too, in fact, suck.

They have great bagels in St. Louis, and also in Chicago.. Ummmm! Slice a bagel in half, throw it in the frying pan with some bacon grease cut side down and then throw an egg in the middle. Put it on the plate with a little holindase sauce over the top. Better than a english muffin..

 

[bajaden]

That article says his pre draft reputation was that he was a non shooter. If Casspi was known as a non shooter, then what was he actually known for? Because 90% of the time he's on the court, that's about the only thing I see him do that he's good at.

We need to move Landry. He's not coming back and we don't necessarily want him back. At least get something in return.

Perhaps you should watch more carefully. Watch what he's doing when he doesn't have the ball. He's a very good rebounder for his position, unlike Greene, who mystifies me with his inability to pull down more than 2 boards in 25 minutes on the floor. The biggest improvement that Cassp needs to make is learn what he can and cannot do. Which simply is making better decisions at times. Thats his biggest weakness, and that should correct itself with experience.

By the way, I don't know if anyone's mentioned it or not, but one of the defensive key's in the last 3 or so minutes of the game last night was Cousins taking away the pick and roll from Nash. A play they had been killing us with all game long. They tried to force it twice in a row and both times it went nowhere, and Cousins was the main reason. The kld is learning fast.

 

[Spok22]

You should read some of the awful posts on the kings facebook page. I've read numerous posts of people saying dealing Casspi would be OK, and we should keep Landry of all our trade chips. Reading posts like that makes me appreciate all of you so much more!

lol i agree. Thats why i usually get into arguments while commenting on the page lol.

 

[Amaranth]

Toughness, Hustle, energy, never say die attitude, off the ball movemant, slashing, size, running the floor, and being a pro and playing in one of the top teams in Europe since he's 17.

What really is intresting is if with his amazing work ethic he made a weakness of his to such a strength - how much more can he improove in his game? thats a very positive note that indicates his game WILL improove - even what we think right now is a weakness of his, due to his hard work.

This deserves to be repeated, particularly the second paragraph. Omri's work ethic is ridiculous; it makes you think he can achieve pretty much anything.

I read somewhere that when he was a teenager trying to improve his three, he would stay in the gym and take like 800 shots every night.

 

[Entity]

I was on the Donte Greene should beat out Casspi bandwagon before the season. Omri HAS improved on the defensive end and he doesn't seem to be forcing the issue like he did before. I am now thinking Omri's ceiling has raised as to how good he can become.

I wouldn't mind seeing Cousins and JT running the princeton offense with Tyreke becoming a slasher to the rim and Omri continuing to be the outside threat as well as making backcuts.

 

[FaStRmAn]

Kings need shooters. Casspi is a shooter. I am not sure how trading away a good shooter is going to improve the Kings outside shooting. Seems to me to be a non productive way of doing things. However, if they can acquire a better shooter at PG or SG who plays better defense, they that would be possible. But until they address their outside shooting problems, they cant afford to let Casspi go,