kb02
All-Star
Trying to be Russ 2.0 without the motor.
Trade Deadline Thread
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Trying to be Russ 2.0 without the motor.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Dude is a perfect example of why work ethic and a winning competitive attitude in combination with talent = success. Fox may have the talent, but the work ethic and competitive spirit are questionable.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
That's not a safe assumption at all. We heard the same thing about the Kings "flexible pieces" in the past too. Getting out is getting out, you do it asap if things are heading where this potentially is.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
It's amazing what a role shift can do. BOTH ways.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
It's a true mystery how a young multi-million dollar player who can afford the best of the best basketball trainers in the world can "work" himself into a shell of himself in the offseason.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
He was though. This year they cleared the decks for him to finally handle and create. Kind of like Fox last year. Who had numbers that blow this dudes out of the freaking water.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
And we can clearly say they've moved him back off the ball more than last year.
kb02
All-Star
Doing daily sprints with Buddy to the local McDs.
NewArena
All-Star
He's gotta do be doing some heavy drugs over there.
NewArena
All-Star
Thanks for posting!
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
For the most part, it’s been nearly impossible to figure out what the Spurs are doing. They’re right in the thick of the play-in hunt again but considering their general lack of top tier talent they shouldn’t be going for it. They also dumped a bunch of money on a couple of vets this offseason and are organizationally opposed to in-season trades despite Poetl or Thad Young probably being useful to a contender or two.
Dejounte getting an all-star nod is cool but it just sorta feels like when Kevin Martin would get written about as the most underrated player in the league while the Kings sat firmly in the 9-11th seed every season.
(This post isn’t to say the Kings are doing any better or something. Just that Dejounte is now an all-star on a bad team while our players aren’t all-stars on a bad team (yet))
miltonap
Starter
They probably just don't want to have Pop sit through a rebuild.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
That's what I figured too but at the same time, they have done absolutely nothing bring in a win now talent that'll actually help them win now (McBuckets and Zach Collins are not).
Yep a few of you guys were calling for him that year. Everyone gave a collective wtf when Vlade picked PapaG and Malachi. When he picked Skal, people were okay with that because he had top 10 talent but a lot of people were pissed that he passed up Murray when he would have been a great, almost safe choice at that point in the draft.
Vlade had 3 chances and couldn't even draft a 12th man.
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Kingster
Hall of Famer
What's interesting about it?
ShastaKingsFan
All-Star
When he chose Papa-G with the 13th pick, many draft analysts had never even heard of the guy. As bad as the Bagley choice was, the Papa-G pick was one of the worst of all time. It was hilariously bad
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
I was pointing out how Fox shoulders the blame for not winning by a lot of fans while other players like Murray are praised for their play even though it hasn’t lead to winning.
OR maybe he wanted to better prepare himself for the pounding he gets inside from guys who regularly outweighed him by 50-100 lbs.
C'mon, Iowa. We can agree that a team's won-lost record doesn't tell you a whole lot about the value of individual players, no? Murray might be much better than Fox, or vice versa, even though their teams have similar records, no?
I was commenting only on his 3-pt shooting.
steelevt
All-Star
Vlade was busy drafting a team of centers to go along with dmc and kosta
I think a lot of it is a "grass is always greener" situation with him. He had a longer development process than a lot of other players in his class but watching Murray now, he looks like a stud. So does Fox, aside from his falling off from below average shooter to complete non-factor at range this season -- and it's not like Murray is a knock down shooter either. The biggest difference between them this season is that Fox has to share a backcourt with Hali and Mitchell so he gets less chances to run the offense and even when he does, it's not much of an offense.
I was always a Murray believer so I'm thrilled he's now looking like the player I projected him to be but it's also hard to ignore that Murray got experience playing in games that matter early in his career (the post-season is a whole other learning curve) and he gets to work with a hall of fame coach every day instead of our revolving door of mediocrity. If their situations were reversed it seems likely we'd be pining for the Spurs version of Fox while lamenting that Murray isn't good enough to carry a winning team.
Remind me again what their salaries are? There's a difference in expectations when you're being paid max money which equates to being THE GUY. If we paid Fox $16mil/yr you wouldn't hear me wanting to trade him at all.
That was maybe the most frustrating Kings draft ever. Malachi Richardson was one of my least favorite prospects and I didn't even have Papagiannis on my radar at all. That said, the guy I (and a few others here) wanted at 13 was Wade Baldwin who was waived by Memphis after his rookie year and out of the NBA completely within three years. He seems to be doing okay in the EuroLeague and is only about to turn 26 so he might make it back to an NBA roster as some point but I was clearly wrong in that draft too.
I did like Dejounte Murray a lot and hoped he'd be the pick at both 22 and 28 but I was okay with the gamble on Skal at that point in the draft.
Livinthedream
All-Star
I'm upset that this made me laugh.
AaronPDX
Bench
What's the saddest thing about this organization is year after year, in the days leading up to the trade deadline, we're all in here posting everything we can find and every idea we have? And nothing ever happens. Nothing of consequence. No big moves. We end up with scraps and barely role players. I'm just going to predict it now: NOTHING happens by Thursday of any consequence.
