Time to blow up the team - Save K-Mart & Ron

[hearns]

Some meat on the bones BTW:

Here are some suppositions: 1) look East, because right now in the East basically everybody is thinking they can be a factor; 2) look to the Atlantic division, because everybody there is thinking they are 1 move from being the division winner and a Top 4 seed with a chance at the second round.

So jsut for example:

Bibby to Boston
-- the veteran help Pierce has been looking for, and along with Pierce and Wally likely enough to take the Atlantic
-- potential targets for return, Delonte West, Al Jefferson, a pick, Theo Ratliff and his bigass contract (ender after next year)

Brad to Washington
-- Eddie Jordan wants to run Princeton type stuff, here's his guy, and here's a way for them to break up the brawling center duo they have
-- potential targets for return, Etan Thomas (like his hustle and muscle more than Haywood's size + 'tude, but they may prefer to unload the pouty big) Jarvis Hayes (to balance salaries, + ender if we don't offer a qualifying bid), + a pick. Could also inquire about Andray Blatche I suppose. Calvin Booth is also an ender I think.

Kenny to New Jersey
-- its well known they are once again looking for another big to shore up their pathetic frontline. In a rebuild, they can have ours for free + he might even do well there in a running game
-- potential targets fro return, Jeff McInnis and Miki Moore, both enders. Waive McInnis probably, might keep Moore just as some size. Ideally a pcik as wel, althouigh that's unlikely. But maybe a second, or secure the right to swap first rounders picks, or get one with some hefty protections on it? At the very least get the cap room.

SAR to Chicago
-- they clearly need an inside scorer, and the PJ Brown move has been disastrous -- think they wouldn;t like to have Chandler back about now?
-- potential targets fro return -- myriad, but difficult. They've got lots of youth, but maybe all too expensive. They've got a super rook (Thoams) who almost surely is off limits. They've got a great draft pick coming from the Knicks, which is probably alos off limits.. But maybe some of their second tier stuff? The Duhons, Sefalossas, and their own pick this year? Would they accept Duhon, Malik Allen (ender) and their own lottery protected #1 this year? Something. Skiles doesn;t like Sweetney, could get him too, but the same reason Skiles doens.t like him (weight) woudl likely keep him off the floor for Muss too.

Another real possibility:

Brad Miller to Orlando for Milicic+ Dooling/Ariza/Garrity.
Miller with Howard would be a very good frontcourt, with the passing and mid range shoots of Miller and the rebounds, dunks and blocks of Howard.

 

[nbrans]

Oh no, LP tripled the fun with not only Noah, but Wright and McRoberts as well. Which would be droolworthy given that they are compared to Chandler, KG and Webb respectively. Be hard to miss on all three. Hit 2 of the 3 and you are golden. And golden for a lot of years too.

Yeah, I kind of ignored the others due to the unrealistic idea of getting three first round picks in the next draft (especially since in this scenario Boston is apparently giving us a high first round pick for a half season of Bibby), plus there's unliklihood of them even being available at the given draft slots.

Also, Joakim might be like Chandler (that's not exactly a high bar), but Brandan Wright is to KG what Tony Battie is to Shaq, and Josh McRoberts is to CWebb as Harold Miner is to Michael Jordan.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

Geoff should buy an expensive bordeaux and sit down with Kevin McHale and talk to him. During this conversation Geoff should convince K-M that KG needs to be broken down into expiring contracts so that the T-Wolves can rebuild the right way instead of trying to find the pieces to put around an aging KG. At this point McHale has failed with KG and needs to let the big guy go and start over. They tank the rest of the season, leading to a high draft pick, and they have expiring contracts to make some splashes in the free agent market. Meanwhile we get the piece that we so desperately need, and KG gets the change of scenery that he needs.

Sounds do-able right?

Sacramento Kings

Incoming Players:

Bracey Wright
Salary: $664,209 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 0.0 REB: 0.0 AST: 0.0 PER: 0.00
Kevin Garnett
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 21.1 REB: 11.9 AST: 3.6 PER: 25.55

Outgoing Players: Vitaly Potapenko, Brad Miller, Jason Hart, Corliss Williamson


Minnesota Timberwolves

Incoming Players:

Vitaly Potapenko
Salary: $3,674,584 Years Remaining: 1
Brad Miller
Salary: $9,625,000 Years Remaining: 4
PTS: 5.3 REB: 6.7 AST: 2.1 PER: 8.21
Jason Hart
Salary: $1,680,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 5.3 REB: 0.8 AST: 0.3 PER: 20.05
Corliss Williamson
Salary: $6,500,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 7.2 REB: 2.9 AST: 0.6 PER: 11.21

Outgoing Players: Bracey Wright, Kevin Garnett

HELL NO Mchale is going to do that trade. you think we are the only ones w/ expirings? we didn't even include a draft pick in that trade. lets get real ppl, garnett isn't going just for table scraps.

Another real possibility:

Brad Miller to Orlando for Milicic+ Dooling/Ariza/Garrity.
Miller with Howard would be a very good frontcourt, with the passing and mid range shoots of Miller and the rebounds, dunks and blocks of Howard.

wow, talk about a stretch. why would they trade a young big that has similar skills for a player 10 yrs older that is getting close to the end of his career.

 

[nbrans]

wow, talk about a stretch. why would they trade a young big that has similar skills for a player 10 yrs older that is getting close to the end of his career.

Not to mention that this would kill Orlando's cap at a time when they will either extend Darko to a big deal or go after Vince Carter. I think it may be a bigger stretch than the KG proposal.

 

[fnordius]

West is actually more like a homeless man's Kidd; he's a five-tool player, whereas Bibby is pretty much a one-tool player.

I'd probably take Bibby over West ten times out of ten, but their games are nothing alike.

Agreed... to take perhaps the most obvious example, West makes 7 times as many blocks per 48 minutes as Bibby (roughly 1.0 as opposed to 0.15), more than any other PG in the NBA. West is as anomalous among PGs as Brad Miller is among Cs, and while "homeless man's Kidd" is close, there's really nobody else quite like him.

 

[LA King Fan II]

In response to the thread title.

IMO it is time to blow up the team. Not gonna make the playoffs - might not even come close.

Artest and Martin should not be off limits. In fact I think it's now or never with Ron. He is a talented basketball player. He plays with great heart. He cannot be controlled by our current coach, and that is not going to change. He sees his value in ways that simply aren't so (i.e. taking all shots in the 4th quarter) and I sincerely think he has a deficiency in reasoning. He's lovable. I respect his talent, but he's unstable and he's not going to be a team's best player and lead them to a title.

He could bring back the most for the future for the team. Martin has had a great year, but his stock is perhaps a bit inflated and could help much more than anyone else in rebuilding a real team. It's a shame, but this team is a great deal inferior to the top teams. I Blame it still, on Horry.