The Tyreke Evans Saga

I can see that. Given The Kings' current shooting struggles and Landry's overall blahness it's panning out to be one of the worst trades in Kings' history.


Well we had some worse one's. A lot worse. One that didn't seem that bad at the time, until you watched Ralph Sampson run up and down the court. We traded journeyman center Jim Peterson for Ralph Sampson. I think a draft pick was involved in that trade as well, but I don't remember for sure. And although Peterson was just a journerman, he could at least play. I don't think you could describe what Sampson did as playing. He was just pittiful. The worse part of the trade is that Sampson contract lasted one year longer than Petersons, and was considerably bigger.

But the worse trade has to be the one that sent Mike Woodson, Larry Drew and a first round draft pick to the Clippers for Derek Smith and his never to recover torn ACL, and Franklin Edwards. I think Edwards lasted around 30 games or so before being cut, and Smith never recovered from his injury. We lost our starting PG and starting SG, both of whom were double digit scorers the prior year, and our first round pick that ended up becoming Hersey Hawkins.

Lets not forget that when we made the deal for Landry, we were in need of some sort of low post threat. We no longer have that need, so on the surface it appears to be a bad deal. And perhaps 10 years from now basketball historians will agree. But it wasn't a terrible trade at the time it was made, and in Houston, it was a very unpopular trade. Its all prespective. Its true that Landry isn't playing as well now as he did when we first traded for him. But maybe thats not all his fault. Maybe he just doesn't fit in as well now. Not saying thats a fact, but a possiblilty..
 
I can see that. Given The Kings' current shooting struggles and Landry's overall blahness it's panning out to be one of the worst trades in Kings' history.

If Martin would be willing to be the third player behind Evans/Cousins then yeah, it was a bad trade. But if he continue to demand or play like the 1st option then I think the trade is still valid.

But it doesn't matter with the what if because during that time Evans and Martin combo wasn't working. Could it? I believe so if given time but it's still speculation on my part.
 
If Martin would be willing to be the third player behind Evans/Cousins then yeah, it was a bad trade. But if he continue to demand or play like the 1st option then I think the trade is still valid.

But it doesn't matter with the what if because during that time Evans and Martin combo wasn't working. Could it? I believe so if given time but it's still speculation on my part.

When did Martin demand to be the number one option? I recall him saying that he didn't want to be the number one option.
 
When did Martin demand to be the number one option? I recall him saying that he didn't want to be the number one option.

cannot function as anything else -- hsi game is every bit as offensive demanding as a #1 options, except withotu the impact.

In any case he needed to go, and he's gone. The only probelm is what we got back. Which may ot mater this summer anyway when we have his caproom to pley with.
 
It was Martin's contract/salary that we traded, nothing else.

We could have gotten a bag of donuts and been ahead.

The Maloofs messed up BIG TIME giving a one-dimensional player like Martin that big of salary.
$12 million each year for the next 3 years is crippling for a scorer who relies on getting fouls called for him to score.
 
It was Martin's contract/salary that we traded, nothing else.

We could have gotten a bag of donuts and been ahead.

The Maloofs messed up BIG TIME giving a one-dimensional player like Martin that big of salary.
$12 million each year for the next 3 years is crippling for a scorer who relies on getting fouls called for him to score.

Now that's a bit unfair. If he shot 0 free throws this year, Martin would still be scoring 18.0 points per 36 minutes, and he's shooting .432 from three. Those are great numbers, especially considering fouls are out of the equation. Here's some interesting data:
Points per 36, not counting free throws, career:
Allen Iverson: 17.2
LeBron James: 17.5
Dwyane Wade: 17.6
Kevin Durant: 18.6
Kobe Bryant: 20.6

Martin is putting up 18.0 this year, which appears to put him on par with five other great scorers (off the top of my head). Would you say that LeBron can't score without getting foul calls? Iverson?
 
Well we had some worse one's. A lot worse. One that didn't seem that bad at the time, until you watched Ralph Sampson run up and down the court. We traded journeyman center Jim Peterson for Ralph Sampson. I think a draft pick was involved in that trade as well, but I don't remember for sure. And although Peterson was just a journerman, he could at least play. I don't think you could describe what Sampson did as playing. He was just pittiful. The worse part of the trade is that Sampson contract lasted one year longer than Petersons, and was considerably bigger.

But the worse trade has to be the one that sent Mike Woodson, Larry Drew and a first round draft pick to the Clippers for Derek Smith and his never to recover torn ACL, and Franklin Edwards. I think Edwards lasted around 30 games or so before being cut, and Smith never recovered from his injury. We lost our starting PG and starting SG, both of whom were double digit scorers the prior year, and our first round pick that ended up becoming Hersey Hawkins.

Lets not forget that when we made the deal for Landry, we were in need of some sort of low post threat. We no longer have that need, so on the surface it appears to be a bad deal. And perhaps 10 years from now basketball historians will agree. But it wasn't a terrible trade at the time it was made, and in Houston, it was a very unpopular trade. Its all prespective. Its true that Landry isn't playing as well now as he did when we first traded for him. But maybe thats not all his fault. Maybe he just doesn't fit in as well now. Not saying thats a fact, but a possiblilty..

I seriously believe that within a month of arriving in Sacto Landry began thinking of going to greener pastures and his contract year. The guy has been out of it mentally. It all start with Napier asking him last year on two separate occassions what Landry planned on improving in the offseason. Landry didn't have an answer. Hadn't thought about it. Voila. He does nothing in the offseason except come into camp out of shape. Then his game stinks. He can't shoot free throws. It takes him weeks to become a semblance of himself. He starts off playing terribly on D. He misses assignments. It's unbelievable how out of it mentally he has become. He's obviously thinking of next year, not this year. You can even see it on the bench. He's totally disinvested himself from this team. I bet he prays every night that he's traded by the trade deadline.
 
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